(02-02-2022, 10:08 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2022, 09:53 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]No thanks, only Cullen was good, everyone else is garbage.
So you say. And you are entitled to your opinion. But what I don't understand is all this fascination with Leftwich as he relates to Bevell. If you look at it objectively, Darrell has done everything and more than Byron for a longer period of time.
You take Brady out of the equation and the Bucs probably won't even win their division next year. The QB has to be the catalyst for whatever schemes the head coach and OC draw up. Leftwich will go through a lean period next year if he stays with the Bucs. Bev, along with Schotty, was trying to inject life into an offense this year with a rookie, all the while with a benevolent force calling the shots from above. But with that said, Trevor still made great strides in his first year and will be that much more prepared heading into Year 2.
And they failed miserably.
(02-02-2022, 10:32 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2022, 10:08 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]So you say. And you are entitled to your opinion. But what I don't understand is all this fascination with Leftwich as he relates to Bevell. If you look at it objectively, Darrell has done everything and more than Byron for a longer period of time.
You take Brady out of the equation and the Bucs probably won't even win their division next year. The QB has to be the catalyst for whatever schemes the head coach and OC draw up. Leftwich will go through a lean period next year if he stays with the Bucs. Bev, along with Schotty, was trying to inject life into an offense this year with a rookie, all the while with a benevolent force calling the shots from above. But with that said, Trevor still made great strides in his first year and will be that much more prepared heading into Year 2.
And so you say Bevell is better but he is been fired/let go even when he had 2 of the best QBs in the league. This past year he had the best rookie QB to come out in years and made him look like crap.
Bevell is mediocre at best, that's why no one is interviewing the guy, no one is interested in him.
Well, he had a decent stretch in Seattle and achieved a lot. Not as long in Detroit, but Matt Patricia's tenure was short and he was dismissed with the coaching change. Even then, Matt Stafford reportedly pledged allegiance to Bevell's coaching style by saying he'd stay with the Lions if he was hired as head coach. They went with Campbell instead and Matty is playing in the Super Bowl.
As far as Trevor, I think it was a positive first season. He experienced a lot and showed great progress. It was the foundation for what I foresee as an illustrious career featuring many Pro Bowls.
(02-02-2022, 10:44 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2022, 10:32 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]And so you say Bevell is better but he is been fired/let go even when he had 2 of the best QBs in the league. This past year he had the best rookie QB to come out in years and made him look like crap.
Bevell is mediocre at best, that's why no one is interviewing the guy, no one is interested in him.
Well, he had a decent stretch in Seattle and achieved a lot. Not as long in Detroit, but Matt Patricia's tenure was short and he was dismissed with the coaching change. Even then, Matt Stafford reportedly pledged allegiance to Bevell's coaching style by saying he'd stay with the Lions if he was hired as head coach. They went with Campbell instead and Matty is playing in the Super Bowl.
As far as Trevor, I think it was a positive first season. He experienced a lot and showed great progress. It was the foundation for what I foresee as an illustrious career featuring many Pro Bowls.
They were ill prepared the entire season. We had our worse offensive output in franchise history. This didn't happen in a vaccume. Myer was super crappy but hands off so yeah.
The white speck on the top of the chicken waste is still waste. This franchise screwed a whole year of development. Botched free agency and drafted players they wouldn't put on the field.
But hey the guy with the best unit is out but lets throw in on scraps.
(02-02-2022, 10:44 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2022, 10:32 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]And so you say Bevell is better but he is been fired/let go even when he had 2 of the best QBs in the league. This past year he had the best rookie QB to come out in years and made him look like crap.
Bevell is mediocre at best, that's why no one is interviewing the guy, no one is interested in him.
Well, he had a decent stretch in Seattle and achieved a lot. Not as long in Detroit, but Matt Patricia's tenure was short and he was dismissed with the coaching change. Even then, Matt Stafford reportedly pledged allegiance to Bevell's coaching style by saying he'd stay with the Lions if he was hired as head coach. They went with Campbell instead and Matty is playing in the Super Bowl.
As far as Trevor, I think it was a positive first season. He experienced a lot and showed great progress. It was the foundation for what I foresee as an illustrious career featuring many Pro Bowls.
No, it wasn't.
Showed minimal progress.
Someone has to fix all the stupid stuff Bevell did to this offense.
Bevell O's rankings lately:
2017 #15 with R. Wilson
2019 #17 With Stafford
2020 #20 With Stafford
2021 #27 with Trevor
The guy sucks, you can sing all you want but he is not getting another HC job, probably not even another OC job in the NFL either.
(02-02-2022, 10:50 PM)MoJagFan Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2022, 10:44 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]Well, he had a decent stretch in Seattle and achieved a lot. Not as long in Detroit, but Matt Patricia's tenure was short and he was dismissed with the coaching change. Even then, Matt Stafford reportedly pledged allegiance to Bevell's coaching style by saying he'd stay with the Lions if he was hired as head coach. They went with Campbell instead and Matty is playing in the Super Bowl.
As far as Trevor, I think it was a positive first season. He experienced a lot and showed great progress. It was the foundation for what I foresee as an illustrious career featuring many Pro Bowls.
They were ill prepared the entire season. We had our worse offensive output in franchise history. This didn't happen in a vaccume. Myer was super crappy but hands off so yeah.
The white speck on the top of the chicken waste is still waste. This franchise screwed a whole year of development. Botched free agency and drafted players they wouldn't put on the field.
But hey the guy with the best unit is out but lets throw in on scraps.
How do you know that Meyer was so "hands-off"? Hell, the staff could've had the best gameplan devised and then Meyer comes on the headset on game days and sabotages it all. His documented misuse of Robinson could be the tip of the iceburg.
(02-02-2022, 10:52 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2022, 10:44 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]Well, he had a decent stretch in Seattle and achieved a lot. Not as long in Detroit, but Matt Patricia's tenure was short and he was dismissed with the coaching change. Even then, Matt Stafford reportedly pledged allegiance to Bevell's coaching style by saying he'd stay with the Lions if he was hired as head coach. They went with Campbell instead and Matty is playing in the Super Bowl.
As far as Trevor, I think it was a positive first season. He experienced a lot and showed great progress. It was the foundation for what I foresee as an illustrious career featuring many Pro Bowls.
No, it wasn't.
Showed minimal progress.
Someone has to fix all the stupid stuff Bevell did to this offense.
Bevell O's rankings lately:
2017 #15 with R. Wilson
2019 #17 With Stafford
2020 #20 With Stafford
2021 #27 with Trevor
The guy sucks, you can sing all you want but he is not getting another HC job, probably not even another OC job in the NFL either.
You will be proven wrong. On second thought, I hope you are right and he's the Jags head coach for the next 10 years.
(02-02-2022, 10:52 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2022, 10:44 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]Well, he had a decent stretch in Seattle and achieved a lot. Not as long in Detroit, but Matt Patricia's tenure was short and he was dismissed with the coaching change. Even then, Matt Stafford reportedly pledged allegiance to Bevell's coaching style by saying he'd stay with the Lions if he was hired as head coach. They went with Campbell instead and Matty is playing in the Super Bowl.
As far as Trevor, I think it was a positive first season. He experienced a lot and showed great progress. It was the foundation for what I foresee as an illustrious career featuring many Pro Bowls.
No, it wasn't.
Showed minimal progress.
Someone has to fix all the stupid stuff Bevell did to this offense.
Bevell O's rankings lately:
2017 #15 with R. Wilson
2019 #17 With Stafford
2020 #20 With Stafford
2021 #27 with Trevor
The guy sucks, you can sing all you want but he is not getting another HC job, probably not even another OC job in the NFL either.
Lets not also forget when Bevell was the Seahawks OC, they also had an all time top 5 D. That's what won them the SB.
Bevell will always be the guy that threw from the 1yd line in the SB with Marshawn Lynch in the backfield.
(02-02-2022, 10:55 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2022, 10:50 PM)MoJagFan Wrote: [ -> ]They were ill prepared the entire season. We had our worse offensive output in franchise history. This didn't happen in a vaccume. Myer was super crappy but hands off so yeah.
The white speck on the top of the chicken waste is still waste. This franchise screwed a whole year of development. Botched free agency and drafted players they wouldn't put on the field.
But hey the guy with the best unit is out but lets throw in on scraps.
How do you know that Meyer was so "hands-off"? Hell, the staff could've had the best gameplan devised and then Meyer comes on the headset on game days and sabotages it all. His documented misuse of Robinson could be the tip of the iceburg.
(02-02-2022, 10:52 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]No, it wasn't.
Showed minimal progress.
Someone has to fix all the stupid stuff Bevell did to this offense.
Bevell O's rankings lately:
2017 #15 with R. Wilson
2019 #17 With Stafford
2020 #20 With Stafford
2021 #27 with Trevor
The guy sucks, you can sing all you want but he is not getting another HC job, probably not even another OC job in the NFL either.
You will be proven wrong. On second thought, I hope you are right and he's the Jags head coach for the next 10 years.
You keep holding on to that dream buddy. We won't see you around here pretty soon, probably after Friday.
(02-02-2022, 11:13 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2022, 10:52 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]No, it wasn't.
Showed minimal progress.
Someone has to fix all the stupid stuff Bevell did to this offense.
Bevell O's rankings lately:
2017 #15 with R. Wilson
2019 #17 With Stafford
2020 #20 With Stafford
2021 #27 with Trevor
The guy sucks, you can sing all you want but he is not getting another HC job, probably not even another OC job in the NFL either.
Lets not also forget when Bevell was the Seahawks OC, they also had an all time top 5 D. That's what won them the SB.
Bevell will always be the guy that threw from the 1yd line in the SB with Marshawn Lynch in the backfield.
Carroll called for the pass; Bevell dialed up the play, a play they had a 90% success rate on earlier in the year. Pats also had their jumbo package in and Marshawn had a poor history in similar matchups. That's the history of it.
Year before, Seahawks clobbered the Broncos for a ring. Yep, Bevell pushed those buttons too.
(02-02-2022, 11:29 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2022, 11:13 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Lets not also forget when Bevell was the Seahawks OC, they also had an all time top 5 D. That's what won them the SB.
Bevell will always be the guy that threw from the 1yd line in the SB with Marshawn Lynch in the backfield.
Carroll called for the pass; Bevell dialed up the play, a play they had a 90% success rate on earlier in the year. Pats also had their jumbo package in and Marshawn had a poor history in similar matchups. That's the history of it.
Year before, Seahawks clobbered the Broncos for a ring. Yep, Bevell pushed those buttons too.
I like Bevell.
I do not like some of his play calling.
I think he did some good things as a play caller and some bad things. More good than bad.
He made some obvious but needed adjustments when he became the interim HC last season. Schotty called better situational plays than he did, but the two together were somewhat intriguing to me. Bevell/Schotty helped Trevor more than Meyer/Bevell who just threw him to the wolves every week.
But - if we're given a clean slate to work with - we can aim higher.
(02-02-2022, 11:13 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2022, 10:52 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]No, it wasn't.
Showed minimal progress.
Someone has to fix all the stupid stuff Bevell did to this offense.
Bevell O's rankings lately:
2017 #15 with R. Wilson
2019 #17 With Stafford
2020 #20 With Stafford
2021 #27 with Trevor
The guy sucks, you can sing all you want but he is not getting another HC job, probably not even another OC job in the NFL either.
Lets not also forget when Bevell was the Seahawks OC, they also had an all time top 5 D. That's what won them the SB.
Bevell will always be the guy that threw from the 1yd line in the SB with Marshawn Lynch in the backfield.
And shot gun handoffs from the one yeard line that didnt work. Maybe they should work, but they didnt !
Guys, let's give Bevell a break if you don't mind and cool it a bit. It's not his fault this roster is subpar or that Urban didn't like the one playmaker we actually had and didn't let him play. Bevell did nothing but handle himself with class and professionalism during and after one of the most toxic environments in NFL history.
I'm going to laugh so hard if the Saints announce tomorrow they're hiring Pederson.
Jags will evidently accidentally hire the right coach by defaulting. Just let the other teams choose their favorite coaches first. No worrys
(02-03-2022, 12:27 AM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Jags will evidently accidentally hire the right coach by defaulting
Knowing this clown show franchise, they'll have spent 2 months on a coaching search and end up running it back with Baalke and Bevell
(02-03-2022, 12:23 AM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote: [ -> ]I'm going to laugh so hard if the Saints announce tomorrow they're hiring Pederson.
Works for me. I hope they do hire him.
(02-03-2022, 12:29 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2022, 12:27 AM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Jags will evidently accidentally hire the right coach by defaulting
Knowing this clown show franchise, they'll have spent 2 months on a coaching search and end up running it back with Baalke and Bevell
This is the most likely outcome, especially if it's true that Khan has been asking candidates if they are willing to work with Baalke while he's actually in the room.
Khan has proven himself to be the worst owner in the NFL and the Jags have replaced the Browns as the laughingstock franchise.
Jags fans deserve better than this clown show.
(02-03-2022, 12:27 AM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Jags will evidently accidentally hire the right coach by defaulting. Just let the other teams choose their favorite coaches first. No worrys
I was thinking the same thing earlier today. Picking "their guy" hasn't worked so well in the past, so why not let everyone else pick and see what you end up with, lol.
(02-03-2022, 12:27 AM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Jags will evidently accidentally hire the right coach by defaulting. Just let the other teams choose their favorite coaches first. No worrys
Don't under estimate the Jaguars ability to make the worst possible choice.
(02-03-2022, 12:46 AM)Protozoa Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2022, 12:27 AM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Jags will evidently accidentally hire the right coach by defaulting. Just let the other teams choose their favorite coaches first. No worrys
Don't under estimate the Jaguars ability to make the worst possible choice.
I don’t think that is even possible.