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(01-20-2022, 04:01 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Did someone say he dressed in a teal suit for his interview?

It was posted.  But I’m not sure the validity of the claim.

Basically how I feel too. I lean Byron, but no matter which of those 3 we get I'd be happy.

https://twitter.com/E_Dilla/status/1484256852133220353

Tying in with parts of the recent discussion,, the Offensive side of the ball background that Byron Leftwich has with Bruce Arians could prove to be highly beneficial in unexpected situations, if Leftwich becomes the Jaguars HC. Bruce Arians did a masterful job as Colts Interim HC in 2012, filling in for Chuck Pagano, when he was being treated for cancer. As talented as Andrew Luck was, he was a rookie in 2012. Arians got more out of the Colts than anyone in their organization could have realistically hoped for.

(01-20-2022, 04:17 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Basically how I feel too. I lean Byron, but no matter which of those 3 we get I'd be happy.

https://twitter.com/E_Dilla/status/1484256852133220353

I gotta be careful if I agree with you and Dilla.

If it's between Leftwich, Hackett & Eberflus I am also leaning towards Leftwich. The offensive system they have been running down in Tampa Bay over the last three years is very promising and, at least on paper and in philosophy, it bodes well for Lawrence's overall potential and trajectories in year two and beyond.

Just need to get this kid some help. That offense damn near needs an entire overhaul if I am being honest. Even if they get a healthy Robinson and Etienne back. Even if they manage to resign Chark and he's ready to go. They still need improvement everywhere else.

We really need guys that can come off the bench and make a difference at WR and TE. We cannot see this team carrying too many holdovers from last year knowing damn well they're asking for trouble again. Get faster, get more consistent and get better on a technical level and this team is at least looking at 6 wins.

Which, hey, it's not perfect but it's sure as [BLEEP] a start compared to these last two years of dog [BLEEP].

(01-20-2022, 04:01 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Did someone say he dressed in a teal suit for his interview?

(01-20-2022, 04:04 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-20-2022, 04:01 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Did someone say he dressed in a teal suit for his interview?

It was posted.  But I’m not sure the validity of the claim.

I mean a bunch of different people were reporting it on twitter, I don't see why they'd all make something like that up.

(01-20-2022, 03:23 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-20-2022, 02:42 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Let's see

Bucs Arians former OC
49ers K. Shanahan former OC with Garoppolo
Bengals Zac Taylor former QB coach
GB Matt Lafleur former OC
Rams Sean McVay former OC

Others

Nick Sirianni
Frank Reich

There are more and they all are much better than what we've had in years.

Is the goal just better than Jags have been since early 00's or Super Bowl win/bust?

True, it may still be too early to judge Shanahan, Taylor, LaFleur, McVay, and Sirianni on the latter scale, but none have won that yet.

Also, you cannot just choose all the successes. You would have see the percentage successes versus all the failures.

You are kidding right? SB? lol have you seen this team play? The goal? probably the number 1 goal should be to bring someone who can develop Trevor (as he is the future). Maybe focus on stop being the worst team in the league and develop our young QB then we can worry about the playoffs and the SB.

(01-20-2022, 06:06 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-20-2022, 04:01 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Did someone say he dressed in a teal suit for his interview?

(01-20-2022, 04:04 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]It was posted.  But I’m not sure the validity of the claim.

I mean a bunch of different people were reporting it on twitter, I don't see why they'd all make something like that up.

I didn’t see any links.  Just saw a written post.  But I’m with you, if multiple people tweeted it, then I’ll go along and believe it.   

I must say, I was (still am) pro Pederson.  The idea of Byron wasn’t very appealing to me.  But after a week or so of mulling it over and hearing the debates, I wouldn’t be disappointed.   When Arians and the Goat talk you up…you must be alright.  I’ve definitely warmed up to the idea to say the least.  

Hackett, on the other hand… between having Rodgers and his tenure here, I’m not sure I’d be excited.

(01-20-2022, 06:09 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-20-2022, 03:23 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]Is the goal just better than Jags have been since early 00's or Super Bowl win/bust?

True, it may still be too early to judge Shanahan, Taylor, LaFleur, McVay, and Sirianni on the latter scale, but none have won that yet.

Also, you cannot just choose all the successes. You would have see the percentage successes versus all the failures.

You are kidding right? SB? lol have you seen this team play? The goal? probably the number 1 goal should be to bring someone who can develop Trevor (as he is the future). Maybe focus on stop being the worst team in the league and develop our young QB then we can worry about the playoffs and the SB.

Baby steps. lol

(01-20-2022, 06:09 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-20-2022, 03:23 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]Is the goal just better than Jags have been since early 00's or Super Bowl win/bust?

True, it may still be too early to judge Shanahan, Taylor, LaFleur, McVay, and Sirianni on the latter scale, but none have won that yet.

Also, you cannot just choose all the successes. You would have see the percentage successes versus all the failures.

You are kidding right? SB? lol have you seen this team play? The goal? probably the number 1 goal should be to bring someone who can develop Trevor (as he is the future). Maybe focus on stop being the worst team in the league and develop our young QB then we can worry about the playoffs and the SB.

Jim Caldwell immediately comes to mind as a HC who would be a major asset in the development of Trevor Lawrence and help get the Jaguars back to the point that the team would be competing for a playoff spot by the 2023 season.   The two key question marks would seem to be who would Caldwell want to be his eventual successor and whether Caldwell can develop a much more effective and consistent running game than he did previously?

I'll take Pedersen or Caldwell over Eberflus, Leftwich or Hackett, but if I had to pick from the three I'd go Leftwich.

Eberflus - I'm looking for an offensive minded coach so I'm already against this guy. He didn't run a lock down defense this season, the Colts gave up 21 a game. He may be a great leader, who knows, but at least he isn't Bob. Back on the Gus Bus with a ho hum win with defense/just enough offense mentality. Would coexist with Balke.

Hackett - Yawn. He's got A-A-Ron running his offense, with one of the best receivers in the game, so of course he's going to be a little impressive. If he couldn't make chicken salad with Jax before than he really can't make the chicken salad now with this chicken spit roster. Would coexist with Balke.

Leftwich - Running an offense with the GOAT and plenty of weapons so who knows how good he really is. Too many positives to ignore IMO. A take charge leader (geez we need that). An aggressive play caller. Would probably push hard to get high quality offensive weapons to go with Trevor. Players would love to play for him and free agents would get over the Jax is not a place to sign stigma. Has learned a ton from Brady and Bruce. Would push for Balke to get run.

(01-20-2022, 06:09 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-20-2022, 03:23 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]Is the goal just better than Jags have been since early 00's or Super Bowl win/bust?

True, it may still be too early to judge Shanahan, Taylor, LaFleur, McVay, and Sirianni on the latter scale, but none have won that yet.

Also, you cannot just choose all the successes. You would have see the percentage successes versus all the failures.

You are kidding right? SB? lol have you seen this team play? The goal? probably the number 1 goal should be to bring someone who can develop Trevor (as he is the future). Maybe focus on stop being the worst team in the league and develop our young QB then we can worry about the playoffs and the SB.

I think it's safe to say if the QB develops, playoffs usually come with good/great QB play. Not always, but most of the time. The Jags defense has some solid pieces going forward, so a good QB would do wonders for this team.

(01-20-2022, 06:09 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-20-2022, 03:23 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]Is the goal just better than Jags have been since early 00's or Super Bowl win/bust?

True, it may still be too early to judge Shanahan, Taylor, LaFleur, McVay, and Sirianni on the latter scale, but none have won that yet.

Also, you cannot just choose all the successes. You would have see the percentage successes versus all the failures.

You are kidding right? SB? lol have you seen this team play? The goal? probably the number 1 goal should be to bring someone who can develop Trevor (as he is the future). Maybe focus on stop being the worst team in the league and develop our young QB then we can worry about the playoffs and the SB.

From watching Trevor, and especially watching the last game against the Colts, Trevor will develop just fine.   So I wouldn't say, "bring in someone who can develop Trevor" but I would say "get Trevor some help."  That means the whole team, especially the offense, and the offensive personnel.  In the last game, Trevor got pass protection, and the receivers got open, and Trevor played like an elite QB, in spite of 4 or 5 dropped passes.  

I don't care as much about hiring some QB guru as our head coach as much as I care about just hiring a good head coach.  One who knows NFL offense and NFL defense and can hire some good assistants, and provide good steady leadership and have the players respect him and want to play for him.

I feel better about our coaching prospects if we've narrowed it down to Leftwich, Hackett, and Eberflus. My default position would be to lean towards someone with head coaching experience and success (like a Pederson or Caldwell) as I think there is some unquantifiable quality needed to be head coach. And it's easier to spot when you've seen someone do it. But I've read good things about all three of our top candidates in terms of leadership and coaching ability. Without gaining more insight into their personalities, I don't know that I can pick a favorite. Feels like a total coin flip in terms of who would succeed and who wouldn't. I don't think looking at anyone's offensive or defensive yardage rankings is very meaningful to be honest.

But again all three are said to have the qualities need to be head coach with no obvious red flags. And I get the impression that the odds of keeping Baalke around would be lessened if any of the three are chosen.

(01-21-2022, 09:02 AM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]I feel better about our coaching prospects if we've narrowed it down to Leftwich, Hackett, and Eberflus.  My default position would be to lean towards someone with head coaching experience and success (like a Pederson or Caldwell) as I think there is some unquantifiable quality needed to be head coach.  And it's easier to spot when you've seen someone do it.  But I've read good things about all three of our top candidates in terms of leadership and coaching ability.  Without gaining more insight into their personalities, I don't know that I can pick a favorite.  Feels like a total coin flip in terms of who would succeed and who wouldn't.  I don't think looking at anyone's offensive or defensive yardage rankings is very meaningful to be honest.

But again all three are said to have the qualities need to be head coach with no obvious red flags.  And I get the impression that the odds of keeping Baalke around would be lessened if any of the three are chosen.

The bolded needs to be emphasized.

Hackett has flat out said no to Baalke. Byron has a list of 3 or so people he wants to work with but nothing really about Eberflus.

I wonder if Khan really likes Eberflus because he's willing to work with Baalke.

https://twitter.com/E_Dilla/status/14845...55713?s=20

Caldwell in the mix it seems.