(12-20-2021, 07:39 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]Provided that either would accept, I’m torn between Pederson and McDanials. Both have their question marks. Pederson, the Wentz situation, and McDanials the Clots situation. But those two would be my first two choices.
McDaniels was a failure in Denver i'll pass. Yeah I know he had Teblow but still... no thanks.
(12-20-2021, 07:55 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (12-20-2021, 07:39 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]Provided that either would accept, I’m torn between Pederson and McDanials. Both have their question marks. Pederson, the Wentz situation, and McDanials the Clots situation. But those two would be my first two choices.
McDaniels was a failure in Denver i'll pass. Yeah I know he had Teblow but still... no thanks.
I do not disagree with that mindset. I really don’t. If you think about it, every coaching candidate will have their marks on them. I am glad I’m not the one to make the decision, just the guy that gets to question and judge it!
(12-20-2021, 07:55 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (12-20-2021, 07:39 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]Provided that either would accept, I’m torn between Pederson and McDanials. Both have their question marks. Pederson, the Wentz situation, and McDanials the Clots situation. But those two would be my first two choices.
McDaniels was a failure in Denver i'll pass. Yeah I know he had Teblow but still... no thanks.
Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow were his QBs, not exactly much to work with.
It was also 12 years ago. Got to think hes grown as a coach since then. Had plenty of time to reflect back on what went wrong and what not to do again.
(12-20-2021, 09:17 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-20-2021, 07:55 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]McDaniels was a failure in Denver i'll pass. Yeah I know he had Teblow but still... no thanks.
Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow were his QBs, not exactly much to work with.
It was also 12 years ago. Got to think hes grown as a coach since then. Had plenty of time to reflect back on what went wrong and what not to do again.
Not to mention that he is apparently valuable enough the the patriot organization that they want to hold onto him. Not quite sure he realized the [BLEEP] show in that is Jim Irsay or the Pats offered him something he couldn’t refuse.
I know it's mostly just rumors right now but Jay Glazer says Leftwich is getting a lot of buzz right now for the job.
(12-20-2021, 09:28 PM)TownCenterJag Wrote: [ -> ]I know it's mostly just rumors right now but Jay Glazer says Leftwich is getting a lot of buzz right now for the job.
He’s getting a lot of buzz because he used to be the QB here, we have an opening, and he has a good resume with TB. Both TB’s. The media is trying to push him to JAX. I LIKE THE GUY, but, no.
I think Glazer's quote was that there was a 'large groundswell of support for Leftwich within the organization'. Large groundswell actually scares me because I think that would mean more than the support of two people, and I don't want anyone that isn't Shad or Trevor (or I guess a new GM) having any input in who the new coach is. If large groundswell includes Baalke or any other currently employed coach then gtfo with that noise.
(12-20-2021, 10:02 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I think Glazer's quote was that there was a 'large groundswell of support for Leftwich within the organization'. Large groundswell actually scares me because I think that would mean more than the support of two people, and I don't want anyone that isn't Shad or Trevor (or I guess a new GM) having any input in who the new coach is. If large groundswell includes Baalke or any other currently employed coach then gtfo with that noise.
https://twitter.com/jayglazer/status/147...54051?s=21
I totally agree with you. Baalke should be gone and then let the next GM make the call.
If the next GM feels Byron is the guy, I’m ok with it. Age doesn’t matter to me as long as it’s the right person. Zac Taylor, McVay, and Lafleur are 42 or younger.
Just be the right one.
(12-20-2021, 07:55 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (12-20-2021, 07:39 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]Provided that either would accept, I’m torn between Pederson and McDanials. Both have their question marks. Pederson, the Wentz situation, and McDanials the Clots situation. But those two would be my first two choices.
McDaniels was a failure in Denver i'll pass. Yeah I know he had Teblow but still... no thanks.
I said this earlier. McDaniels was 33 when he became the HC of the Broncos. He was really young, Also he had only been a coach for 10 years. I am not saying he's perfect, but the dude was young AND his experience wasn't enough. Maybe things have changed and at least he has some experience where he could correct his mistakes...10 years working under Belichick says something, and its not all Brady either because they've done some good things with other QB's not named Brady.
(12-21-2021, 12:20 AM)MIJagsFan Wrote: [ -> ] (12-20-2021, 07:55 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]McDaniels was a failure in Denver i'll pass. Yeah I know he had Teblow but still... no thanks.
I said this earlier. McDaniels was 33 when he became the HC of the Broncos. He was really young, Also he had only been a coach for 10 years. I am not saying he's perfect, but the dude was young AND his experience wasn't enough. Maybe things have changed and at least he has some experience where he could correct his mistakes...10 years working under Belichick says something, and its not all Brady either because they've done some good things with other QB's not named Brady.
The Denver stuff doesn't worry me nearly as much as the stunt he pulled in Indy. That was shady. It shows me he cannot be trusted.
(12-20-2021, 10:02 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I think Glazer's quote was that there was a 'large groundswell of support for Leftwich within the organization'. Large groundswell actually scares me because I think that would mean more than the support of two people, and I don't want anyone that isn't Shad or Trevor (or I guess a new GM) having any input in who the new coach is. If large groundswell includes Baalke or any other currently employed coach then gtfo with that noise.
I think this is BS by Glazer. In a few weeks, he'll report other names that are "gaining support within the building." He's just making it up. If he's talking to anyone in the Jags' organization, it's not to the people who will actually be making the decision.
Having Baalke in that building post January 10th would gravely concern me. It reeks of when Caldwell was spared when Bradley was shown the door when they were both in lockstep the whole time.
Leaving Baalke or anyone from this staff within this building is the equivalent of killing a rat infestation while failing to find the rat's nest and ultimately solving your problems for the long term.
They all need to go. Have season tickets gone on sale yet for next year? If you're considering I would honestly wait...
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(12-21-2021, 08:19 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Having Baalke in that building post January 10th would gravely concern me. It reeks of when Caldwell was spared when Bradley was shown the door when they were both in lockstep the whole time.
Leaving Baalke or anyone from this staff within this building is the equivalent of killing a rat infestation while failing to find the rat's nest and ultimately solving your problems for the long term.
They all need to go. Have season tickets gone on sale yet for next year? If you're considering I would honestly wait...
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It would kill any hope I had for the future of this team. Keeping him would completely undermine the idea of a rebuild and we'd still be stuck with the same loser mentality we've always had. He has to go.
I would like to think Khan gets input from sources outside of the organization. I'm sure he must. If so, there can't be any which indicate Baalke should be maintained. Khan made the high profile and historic move to fire the HC before his first season is over. Making the call to get rid of an ineffective GM at the end of the season is easy in comparison.
(12-21-2021, 10:08 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I would like to think Khan gets input from sources outside of the organization. I'm sure he must. If so, there can't be any which indicate Baalke should be maintained. Khan made the high profile and historic move to fire the HC before his first season is over. Making the call to get rid of an ineffective GM at the end of the season is easy in comparison.
I’m sure he has consultants, but they’ve only let him down thus far.
The question to me is, how much is Baalke blaming the 2021 off-season on Meyer and how much can Khan directly hold Baalke accountable for?
I hope Khan sees Baalke as a major part of the problem, but who knows?
At least Baalke was just a promotion from staff rather than the result of an exhaustive search.
Seemingly making him easier to part with.
(12-20-2021, 11:43 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]This was the one I was referring to with the groundswell quote, but same info regardless.
https://twitter.com/billym_91/status/147...98082?s=21
I would note that he makes no reference to insiders of the Jaguars organization. He merely says "Jacksonville". It's the fans of Jacksonville where there has been what some could call a "groundswell of support" for Leftwich.
His credibility is also very low with me considering that he's ignorant of the fact that Khan has said that he is waiting until January to the start search.
If Leftwich is the best candidate, fine, but we shouldn't select a coach based upon nostalgia. If he had played for a different NFL team, he wouldn't be getting nearly the amount of talk in Jacksonville.
(12-21-2021, 10:16 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-21-2021, 10:08 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I would like to think Khan gets input from sources outside of the organization. I'm sure he must. If so, there can't be any which indicate Baalke should be maintained. Khan made the high profile and historic move to fire the HC before his first season is over. Making the call to get rid of an ineffective GM at the end of the season is easy in comparison.
I’m sure he has consultants, but they’ve only let him down thus far.
The question to me is, how much is Baalke blaming the 2021 off-season on Meyer and how much can Khan directly hold Baalke accountable for?
I hope Khan sees Baalke as a major part of the problem, but who knows?
At least Baalke was just a promotion from staff rather than the result of an exhaustive search.
Seemingly making him easier to part with.
Or he's not listening to them. As someone just posted in another thread, Khan likes continuity, and that seems to be the basis of the team's perennial problems.
Whatever the reason, we can only speculate about such rarified air.
(12-21-2021, 10:24 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (12-21-2021, 10:16 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I’m sure he has consultants, but they’ve only let him down thus far.
The question to me is, how much is Baalke blaming the 2021 off-season on Meyer and how much can Khan directly hold Baalke accountable for?
I hope Khan sees Baalke as a major part of the problem, but who knows?
At least Baalke was just a promotion from staff rather than the result of an exhaustive search.
Seemingly making him easier to part with.
Or he's not listening to them. As someone just posted in another thread, Khan likes continuity, and that seems to be the basis of the team's perennial problems.
Whatever the reason, we can only speculate about such rarified air.
The Meyer termination, no matter how obvious, at least signifies a deviation in his continuity complacency.
I'm praying it's the loose brick that breaks the dam and we see a flood of change.
What I want to know is how are we going to pursue interviews in earnest for a HC, beginning in a week, when Trent Baalke is still in the building? IF a new GM is in the future, that should be the first selection so they can make the decision on a coach. If Khan is going for a clean sweep, he needs to get rid of Baalke now to at least signal to HC candidates that they'll be stepping into a changed atmosphere.
I haz a worry.