Payton is going to take time off. You don't leave a job after 15 years especially a great franchise like the saints unless you need some time off. My gut feelings but hey.
(01-25-2022, 03:09 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]Shad in the conference room with Byron, Trent and any other interested parties feels a vibration in his suit pant pocket and pulls his phone out to see the news about Payton on Twitter. He then feels another vibration in his suit pants.
Meanwhile, Byron is giving an answer to some inane question Trent just asked and is interrupted by Shad. "Byron, would you mind if we took a short recess?" He doesn't wait for Byron's answer and just says "Thank you." and gets up and quickly leaves the room and proceeds to run down the hall like a madman to his office to make the call.
Please be what's happening. No disrespect to Byron.
Forgot one thing....as Shad's running down the hall, he screams "You are fired, Baalke".
I can appreciate the wishful thinking, but there isn't a chance in hell that Payton is leaving the Saints to come coach the Jaguars.
(01-25-2022, 03:16 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]I can appreciate the wishful thinking, but there isn't a chance in hell that Payton is leaving the Saints to come coach the Jaguars.
He already left the saints
(01-25-2022, 03:17 PM)JAGFAN88 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2022, 03:16 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]I can appreciate the wishful thinking, but there isn't a chance in hell that Payton is leaving the Saints to come coach the Jaguars.
He already left the saints
Yes, I'm aware. My point is that you don't leave the Saints to come coach the Jaguars.
(01-22-2022, 08:33 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Shad is really trying to make a lot of us jump straight into the arms of these Bengals.
(01-25-2022, 03:19 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2022, 03:17 PM)JAGFAN88 Wrote: [ -> ]He already left the saints
Yes, I'm aware. My point is that you don't leave the Saints to come coach the Jaguars.
He don't have a QB, maybe he wants to coach a real QB
(01-25-2022, 03:20 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2022, 08:33 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Shad is really trying to make a lot of us jump straight into the arms of these Bengals.
(01-25-2022, 03:19 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, I'm aware. My point is that you don't leave the Saints to come coach the Jaguars.
He don't have a QB, maybe he wants to coach a real QB
There's that wishful thinking.
(01-25-2022, 03:10 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Payton is going to take time off. You don't leave a job after 15 years especially a great franchise like the saints unless you need some time off. My gut feelings but hey.
Maybe, but their cap situation is ridiculously bad and their QB situation is not great with a below average QB crop in this year's draft and no real room to go get anyone that may be available in free agency. He may just see it as a challenging few years upcoming in New Orleans and not want any part of it.
I would say he probably wants a high quality vet as his QB rather than a rookie or 2nd year guy, but I'd have to think he'd make an exception for Lawrence if he were interested in coaching somewhere else this year.
(01-25-2022, 03:21 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2022, 03:10 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Payton is going to take time off. You don't leave a job after 15 years especially a great franchise like the saints unless you need some time off. My gut feelings but hey.
Maybe, but their cap situation is ridiculously bad and their QB situation is not great with a below average QB crop in this year's draft and no real room to go get anyone that may be available in free agency. He may just see it as a challenging few years upcoming in New Orleans and not want any part of it.
I would say he probably wants a high quality vet as his QB rather than a rookie or 2nd year guy, but I'd have to think he'd make an exception for Lawrence if he were interested in coaching somewhere else this year.
Why would he make an exception for Lawrence though? He hasn't shown that he's a Josh Allen or Justin Herbert. He has flashes and I am hopeful that he turns it around, but let's not act like Lawrence is some draw for a coach.
And if he thinks the Saints would be a challenging few years then how the would he think the Jags are any better?
someone said tehy Spotted Paytons wife in Ponte Vedra looking at houses 92% verified
Regarding leftwich,
It might be nothing and just a throw away comment but I was watching the pat mcafee show earlier and they were talking about the bears vacancy and as he was running through candidates he mentioned leftwhich is expected to go to the jags, but it was while he was on a run so didn’t elaborate, might just be the same rumours we are seeing, but he does have bucs offensive line coach on the show and I believe they are close friends so maybe he’s heard something from him.
(01-25-2022, 03:23 PM)JAGFAN88 Wrote: [ -> ]someone said tehy Spotted Paytons wife in Ponte Vedra looking at houses 92% verified
And 91% chance that justin Blackmon now will come back man. You see he was just waiting for an excellent coach worth making his inevitable return for.
No way Payton would come here. Khan needs to make an offer to Leftwich today. The guy is highly respected by just about everyone who has either played with or played under him when Byron was q.b. coach or offensive coordinator. He is known to have a great football mind in addition to possessing the leadership skills required. My guess is that he would attract quality free agents to come here if the money was right. The only negative is his lack of head coaching experience, but I believe he has what it takes to succeed once the roster improves.
Regarding Sean Payton we’d still have to send compensation to the saints it’s just not happening what ever dreams, ifs, buts, or maybes, anyone has , so don’t get your hopes up or you’ll only be disappointed
(01-25-2022, 03:23 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2022, 03:21 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe, but their cap situation is ridiculously bad and their QB situation is not great with a below average QB crop in this year's draft and no real room to go get anyone that may be available in free agency. He may just see it as a challenging few years upcoming in New Orleans and not want any part of it.
I would say he probably wants a high quality vet as his QB rather than a rookie or 2nd year guy, but I'd have to think he'd make an exception for Lawrence if he were interested in coaching somewhere else this year.
Why would he make an exception for Lawrence though? He hasn't shown that he's a Josh Allen or Justin Herbert. He has flashes and I am hopeful that he turns it around, but let's not act like Lawrence is some draw for a coach.
And if he thinks the Saints would be a challenging few years then how the would he think the Jags are any better?
Josh Allen and Justin Herbert once established probably aren't helping create coaching vacancies on their teams any time soon. I get your sentiment and how you arrive at it, but QB performance isn't determined in a vacuum. There are others involved that are partially responsible for his under-performance. I saw what I needed to see from him to believe he will develop into a top 5 QB in this league though. He stands tall in the pocket and climbs it and goes through his progressions and generally gets the ball out quickly. His mechanics are sound. He has wheels and uses them sparingly which is a good thing for his longevity, but can make plays if necessary when nothing else is there. He has a calm and confident demeanor when speaking. He has everything you want in your franchise QB hopefully for the next 15 years. If Payton wants another gig this year or next, he'll be hard pressed to find a better opportunity if he's thinking 10+ years out.
(01-25-2022, 02:38 PM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2022, 01:54 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Come on now. Are you going to let one half of football deter you from 3 years of work?
In his 3 years as the Bucs OC, he has had 2 seasons where the QB threw for 5,000 yards and 30+ TDs. The other season was 4,600 and 40 TDs. Leftwich knows what he's doing. The main issue is can the Jags give Leftwich and Lawrence pieces on offense to help build this team into a contender.
Yeah I agree. Also, while initially I was scared that Tom Brady was covering for his mistakes, I then realized perhaps working with Tom Brady would be great for Leftwich to learn from. I think having Tom Brady and Arians as the two people endorsing him should count for a heck of a lot.
Brady and Arians endorsing Byron is another way of saying they're trying to get rid of him.
(01-25-2022, 03:36 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2022, 03:23 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]Why would he make an exception for Lawrence though? He hasn't shown that he's a Josh Allen or Justin Herbert. He has flashes and I am hopeful that he turns it around, but let's not act like Lawrence is some draw for a coach.
And if he thinks the Saints would be a challenging few years then how the would he think the Jags are any better?
Josh Allen and Justin Herbert once established probably aren't helping create coaching vacancies on their teams any time soon. I get your sentiment and how you arrive at it, but QB performance isn't determined in a vacuum. There are others involved that are partially responsible for his under-performance. I saw what I needed to see from him to believe he will develop into a top 5 QB in this league though. He stands tall in the pocket and climbs it and goes through his progressions and generally gets the ball out quickly. His mechanics are sound. He has wheels and uses them sparingly which is a good thing for his longevity, but can make plays if necessary when nothing else is there. He has a calm and confident demeanor when speaking. He has everything you want in your franchise QB hopefully for the next 15 years. If Payton wants another gig this year or next, he'll be hard pressed to find a better opportunity if he's thinking 10+ years out.
The Jags are one of the worst run organizations in the league. A "hopefully" top 5 QB doesn't override that.
Again, I can appreciate the wishful thinking regarding Sean Payton, but he isn't coming here.
https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status...79971?s=20
I would 100% be calling about some of their players.
Also. 0% chance Payton would come to the Jaguars. Not only would the Jags need to compensate the Saints (Jags need all the draft picks they can get), he's only doing this because he truly needs to step away.
(01-25-2022, 03:32 PM)Craigukjag Wrote: [ -> ]Regarding Sean Payton we’d still have to send compensation to the saints it’s just not happening what ever dreams, ifs, buts, or maybes, anyone has , so don’t get your hopes up or you’ll only be disappointed
Well they're not getting 1st overall nor should they expect such. Would you consider giving up 33? I would.
(01-25-2022, 03:46 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2022, 03:32 PM)Craigukjag Wrote: [ -> ]Regarding Sean Payton we’d still have to send compensation to the saints it’s just not happening what ever dreams, ifs, buts, or maybes, anyone has , so don’t get your hopes up or you’ll only be disappointed
Well they're not getting 1st overall nor should they expect such. Would you consider giving up 33? I would.
No, I would actually be pretty pissed if the Jags gave up 33.
We need our picks.