When we had time he held the ball too long. Didn't see the field well enough. Ball security. Lack of touch. Lack of timing.
Coaching didn't help. Empty against what is now the best pass rush tandem in football with a rookie tackle and a guy you want to get rid of.... come on man.
One team looked desperate for a win another team looked high on press clippings.
I'm a Trevor fan but I don't think he's "great" right now. However I put most of the blame this week on the Oline. I mean I saw several plays the DE just ran right past our guy without being blocked. The kirk fumble fortner was just standing there rather than touching him down.
(11-12-2023, 05:14 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]When we had time he held the ball too long. Didn't see the field well enough. Ball security. Lack of touch. Lack of timing.
Coaching didn't help. Empty against what is now the best pass rush tandem in football with a rookie tackle and a guy you want to get rid of.... come on man.
One team looked desperate for a win another team looked high on press clippings.
Were you watching the all-22? Trevor normally isn't hesitant to throw to open guys in his field of vision. Seemed more like the niners did a great job of rushing and covering.
(11-12-2023, 05:03 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 04:38 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]yeah
Nothing new
Fans that derive more pleasure from [BLEEP] and moaning than rooting for their team are tiresome idiots, but it ain't gonna change
Some people just suck
Do you ever even make good arguments, like ever? Do you not realize all you do is name call when someone presents you information contrary to your feelings about something? In this case it's the Jaguars QB.. You should do better and fix that. It's a bad look.
Feelings? There are no feelings involved. I'm a fan analyzing a young quarterback. LOL
I just think your analysis of Trevor Lawrence is bad and you are clearly clinging to a narrative you began a long time ago and allowing it to skew your perspective.
Get over yourself.
I don't care how my thinking Lawrence is on his way to being a great QB "looks like" to you and I don't need to fix a [BLEEP] thing.
Trevor is not an elite qb and needs plenty of improvement to get to the elite status of a Mahomes, Brady, Manning, Brees etc
(11-12-2023, 05:14 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]When we had time he held the ball too long. Didn't see the field well enough. Ball security. Lack of touch. Lack of timing.
Coaching didn't help. Empty against what is now the best pass rush tandem in football with a rookie tackle and a guy you want to get rid of.... come on man.
One team looked desperate for a win another team looked high on press clippings.
I'm sure their were some holding the ball but they also got away with mugging our WR all game. If the Refs aren't calling blatant holding where the DB cuts in front of the players face pulls a jersey and never turns to look at the ball you better believe the 9ers are using that every play.
Stroud is better than Trevor right now. And he's a rookie.
If anyone actually thinks Trevor has shown any elite qualities since he was drafted then you’re delusional. He’s made a few nice throws… sometimes… he’s also fumbled more than any other QB. He constantly gets sacked when he doesn’t need to be. His decision making is questionable.
I’m a fan of the TEAM not of Trevor. He’s not been good enough, in a conference of elite QBs
(11-12-2023, 05:17 PM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ]Stroud is better than Trevor right now. And he's a rookie.
Dude we get it you need attention. You've already said this like 3 times.
(11-12-2023, 04:59 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 04:52 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]To be fair he deserves criticism this week. He played terribly. It wasn't just him but the QB gets the glory and gets the blame.
No!! YOU CAN'T DO THAT HERE!
You do it all the time. So, clearly you can do that here. You just don't handle the disagreement well when the majority of fans think you're wrong.
(11-12-2023, 05:09 PM)Ordar Wrote: [ -> ]Yep. He is Daniel Jones….
Ouch that's a low blow
How many playoff wins does Daniel have again?
And no ACTUAL playoff wins not wildcard...
(11-12-2023, 04:33 PM)SuperJville Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 04:28 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]Kind of given up.
This fan base has turned on every QB we’ve ever had and we finally get a good one and it seems like they all but want Trevor to fail.
Go ahead and run him out of town. See how bad this team is after wards
The fans aren’t the reason we haven’t had a franchise qb since Mark Brunell.
So that’s a dumb argument. Trevor will be our best qb in history but he’s got a lot of room for growth still.
Drafting strange and bigsby instead of offensive linemen will cost this team more than just some wins.
Bro Trevor just turned 24 last month lol. He's just getting started.
(11-12-2023, 05:19 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 04:33 PM)SuperJville Wrote: [ -> ]The fans aren’t the reason we haven’t had a franchise qb since Mark Brunell.
So that’s a dumb argument. Trevor will be our best qb in history but he’s got a lot of room for growth still.
Drafting strange and bigsby instead of offensive linemen will cost this team more than just some wins.
Bro Trevor just turned 24 last month lol. He's just getting started.
Not to mention the team is something like 12 wins in the last 17 games with so-so talent.
Without Trevor it would be more like 5 or 6 wins.
(11-12-2023, 05:17 PM)Ordar Wrote: [ -> ]If anyone actually thinks Trevor has shown any elite qualities since he was drafted then you’re delusional. He’s made a few nice throws… sometimes… he’s also fumbled more than any other QB. He constantly gets sacked when he doesn’t need to be. His decision making is questionable.
I’m a fan of the TEAM not of Trevor. He’s not been good enough, in a conference of elite QBs
Issues hes had since college.. but we will pretend my takes were incorrect, 3 years of bad/average play isnt enough i guess.
Its about time he shows up, a few games last year isnt enough.
(11-12-2023, 05:17 PM)Ordar Wrote: [ -> ]If anyone actually thinks Trevor has shown any elite qualities since he was drafted then you’re delusional. He’s made a few nice throws… sometimes… he’s also fumbled more than any other QB. He constantly gets sacked when he doesn’t need to be. His decision making is questionable.
I’m a fan of the TEAM not of Trevor. He’s not been good enough, in a conference of elite QBs
Umm the Chargers game where he came back was elite. What other QB has had the mental toughness to throw 4 picks then lead his team to a win. Watched Manning, Brady and Mahomes fail to do that. He's not playing elite but he has the ability and has shown it. He also played Elite in the Ravens and Cowboys game last year.
(11-12-2023, 05:21 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 05:19 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Bro Trevor just turned 24 last month lol. He's just getting started.
Not to mention the team is something like 12 wins in the last 17 games with so-so talent.
Without Trevor it would be more like 5 or 6 wins.
Exactly. I think people should go back and watch some highlights from the Bortles era.
Lawrence is still the best QB we've had and will only get better.
(11-12-2023, 05:17 PM)Ordar Wrote: [ -> ]If anyone actually thinks Trevor has shown any elite qualities since he was drafted then you’re delusional. He’s made a few nice throws… sometimes… he’s also fumbled more than any other QB. He constantly gets sacked when he doesn’t need to be. His decision making is questionable.
I’m a fan of the TEAM not of Trevor. He’s not been good enough, in a conference of elite QBs
He's shown elite qualities. He hasn't done it consistently enough to be considered elite though.I'd love to see what he does with a good line.
I think he can in time. We'll see.
He needs to be smarter with some decisions and ball security - especially in these tougher matchups.
I still think he can improve that way. I'm more patient than many fans.
(11-12-2023, 05:22 PM)Protozoa Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 05:17 PM)Ordar Wrote: [ -> ]If anyone actually thinks Trevor has shown any elite qualities since he was drafted then you’re delusional. He’s made a few nice throws… sometimes… he’s also fumbled more than any other QB. He constantly gets sacked when he doesn’t need to be. His decision making is questionable.
I’m a fan of the TEAM not of Trevor. He’s not been good enough, in a conference of elite QBs
Umm the Chargers game where he came back was elite. What other QB has had the mental toughness to throw 4 picks then lead his team to a win. Watched Manning, Brady and Mahomes fail to do that. He's not playing elite but he has the ability and has shown it. He also played Elite in the Ravens and Cowboys game last year.
At what point does potential matter its never achieved tho? No one doubts he cant do it, its not like minshew and his physical limitations its just he hasnt in THREE YEARS put it together. Hes not elite, at best hes been solid at times.
(11-12-2023, 05:21 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 05:17 PM)Ordar Wrote: [ -> ]If anyone actually thinks Trevor has shown any elite qualities since he was drafted then you’re delusional. He’s made a few nice throws… sometimes… he’s also fumbled more than any other QB. He constantly gets sacked when he doesn’t need to be. His decision making is questionable.
I’m a fan of the TEAM not of Trevor. He’s not been good enough, in a conference of elite QBs
Issues hes had since college.. but we will pretend my takes were incorrect, 3 years of bad/average play isnt enough i guess.
Its about time he shows up, a few games last year isnt enough.
You've read your own sig right?
(11-12-2023, 05:26 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 05:21 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Issues hes had since college.. but we will pretend my takes were incorrect, 3 years of bad/average play isnt enough i guess.
Its about time he shows up, a few games last year isnt enough.
You've read your own sig right?
Absolutely, he was great for 3-4 games last year starting in week 9. Hes been worse this year.