(12-13-2023, 12:52 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2023, 07:30 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]They scored 31 on MNF and scored 27 on Sunday with a short week and injuries across the board, including Lawrence dealing with a knee and ankle injury on the same leg. With limited practice...
Not sure it's the offense that needs to get it's [BLEEP] together. It's the defense more than anything. They've been getting gashed, made fools out of with blown coverages and embarrassed by literally nobody's or washed up Quarterbacks as of recently.
31 points and 27 points should be enough to win football games in the NFL...
This is the same offense with a [BLEEP] box offensive line and [BLEEP] box running game. Lawrence is essentially making magic out of lunch meat out there at the moment and the defense needs to return the favor by doing the same.
We know the line is bad with the exception of Allen and Walker along with Oluokon playing like a man possessed at times in the middle and thrall of it all. Hate to say it, but, those three guys will need to continue to play with Herculean efforts or more over these last four games because it seems like nobody else in the back seven is going to do it.
Agreed; early in the season the defense was playing lights out (with a couple of exceptions), but now it seems to have been somewhat exposed.
On the surface, yeah, those numbers should be enough. Looking past the boxscore though, you should remember that for our first two scores our defense put our offense on the Cleveland 12 and 25 yard lines off of turnovers and should receive some credit for the 14 points that came from those. We were at risk of getting blown out prior to those two big turnovers produced by the defense. I would say that if you get two turnovers deep in the opponents territory, you should win the vast majority of those games. There are several reasons we didn't win, however. There are a handful of plays on either side of the ball that if they get negated in some way could have changed the outcome of the game, but that's true for most games.
Back on track to Trevor...
Bro literally logged a FP in practice today, not even limited.
I love Trevor, but I can't believe 50 starts into his career he will still throw short of the end zone with no times out and only seconds on the clock at the end of a half.
In a game full of boneheaded decisions that one was pretty unforgivable.
This is not how an elite plays. The amount of bone headed plays and inaccurate passes is too much.
(12-17-2023, 11:07 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]I love Trevor, but I can't believe 50 starts into his career he will still throw short of the end zone with no times out and only seconds on the clock at the end of a half.
In a game full of boneheaded decisions that one was pretty unforgivable.
He’s definitely a good QB but he’s got to find a way to become elite or this team is doomed again
If Press Taylor continues to be the OC, Trevor Lawrence will be a mediocre QB that will never get us to a SB.
That's just how it is.
It's not Trevor's fault that the coaching philosophy is trash. But a young QB isn't going to overcome bad coaching. And we're witnessing that right now.
(12-17-2023, 11:52 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ] (12-17-2023, 11:07 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]I love Trevor, but I can't believe 50 starts into his career he will still throw short of the end zone with no times out and only seconds on the clock at the end of a half.
In a game full of boneheaded decisions that one was pretty unforgivable.
He’s definitely a good QB but he’s got to find a way to become elite or this team is doomed again
With a good talent around him he'd look elite, but with Baalke picking players we'll never be better than a wildcard type team now that the texans have a coach and QB.
Trevor and Pedersen made the team look good, but the team needs an overall increase in talent.
Are there really people out there that still think this guy is a generational talent? Dude is not even the best QB in the division. TBF Stroud might be the one who is generational talent though.
Seems like I was right, Trevor is a Kirk Cousins at best, just a bit better in the playoffs... maybe.
And his fumbles. God his fumbles.
I'm back where I was last year, questioning whether Trevor is the answer. How can he not hang onto the ball?
Yea the fumbles r creeping back
Not good
(12-18-2023, 12:00 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Are there really people out there that still think this guy is a generational talent? Dude is not even the best QB in the division. TBF Stroud might be the one who is generational talent though.
Seems like I was right, Trevor is a Kirk Cousins at best, just a bit better in the playoffs... maybe.
Yea Stroud is so generational that his team just won without him.
(12-18-2023, 12:27 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-18-2023, 12:00 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Are there really people out there that still think this guy is a generational talent? Dude is not even the best QB in the division. TBF Stroud might be the one who is generational talent though.
Seems like I was right, Trevor is a Kirk Cousins at best, just a bit better in the playoffs... maybe.
Yea Stroud is so generational that his team just won without him.
Trevor is so generational he lost to Joe Flacco and the Bengals backup
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(12-18-2023, 12:29 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (12-18-2023, 12:27 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Yea Stroud is so generational that his team just won without him.
Trevor is so generational he lost to Joe Flacco and the Bengals backup
Yea It's a shame Trevor can't cover receivers better. Dude's a bum.
Trevor Lawrence isn't the problem, guys.
This coaching scheme is the problem. How can you watch this team play, with all the talent we have and see how ineffective we are.
We're watching a coaching staff that is absolutely [BLEEP] the bed.
Is TL the problem? Nope.
- The WRs!
- The o-line!
- The OC!
- The defense!
It’s everyone’s fault EXCEPT for the single most important player on the field. He’s a rock star. Super cool. But everyone around him sucks.
At this point, who would not sign over two children for the Jags to get 2022’s Mr Irrelevant?
(12-18-2023, 12:29 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (12-18-2023, 12:27 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Yea Stroud is so generational that his team just won without him.
Trevor is so generational he lost to Joe Flacco and the Bengals backup
Yeah it was sad when he scored 25+ points and his defense did nothing. Generational players should be able to posses other players and make them play better and I'm yet to see that from Lawrence. Total garbage.
(12-18-2023, 12:38 AM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Trevor Lawrence isn't the problem, guys.
This coaching scheme is the problem. How can you watch this team play, with all the talent we have and see how ineffective we are.
We're watching a coaching staff that is absolutely [BLEEP] the bed.
He is not. He is just not a generational talent like people said and he will probably never be elite.
I mean if Doug won with Wentz/Foles he can win with Trevor... I hope lol
(12-18-2023, 12:48 AM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]Is TL the problem? Nope.
- The WRs!
- The o-line!
- The OC!
- The defense!
It’s everyone’s fault EXCEPT for the single most important player on the field. He’s a rock star. Super cool. But everyone around him sucks.
At this point, who would not sign over two children for the Jags to get 2022’s Mr Irrelevant?
What WR is helping him? Which olineman isn't ranked in the bottom of their position? If you even try to defend the playcall after today you need to stop commenting on football cause you know nothing. What QB can consistently over come a defense allowing 25+ points.
Mahomes is the best QB right now and may end up the best of all time and he can't overcome a middle of the pack oline and bad WR and be has a top 5 defense.
But sure Lawrence needs to overcome more then Mahomes can and two leg injuries and if he doesn't then we should just cut his pathetic [BLEEP].
(12-18-2023, 12:57 AM)Protozoa Wrote: [ -> ] (12-18-2023, 12:48 AM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]Is TL the problem? Nope.
- The WRs!
- The o-line!
- The OC!
- The defense!
It’s everyone’s fault EXCEPT for the single most important player on the field. He’s a rock star. Super cool. But everyone around him sucks.
At this point, who would not sign over two children for the Jags to get 2022’s Mr Irrelevant?
What WR is helping him? Which olineman isn't ranked in the bottom of their position? If you even try to defend the playcall after today you need to stop commenting on football cause you know nothing. What QB can consistently over come a defense allowing 25+ points.
Mahomes is the best QB right now and may end up the best of all time and he can't overcome a middle of the pack oline and bad WR and be has a top 5 defense.
But sure Lawrence needs to overcome more then Mahomes can at to leg injuries and if he doesn't then we should just cut his pathetic [BLEEP].
Guy is a troll and sock. No sense in engaging him