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(12-12-2022, 12:47 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2022, 12:27 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]That's nice. Doesn't change the facts of the case, just shows that you wanna jump on the wagon.

Well I admited my presumptions were wrong about Lawrence, now the question is when will you admit you flat out lied when you said me and Ozjohnnie were the same person and said I hacked the trevor lawrence poll?

You wont tho.

Please stop with the accusations and revisionist history. 

Mods did not say you were the same poster as OZJ.  

Mods did ban you because you had multiple accounts logged in on the same day from the same IP address.
You were very graciously granted amnesty for something that should have banished you for good because you claim the other poster was your "roommate" 

Anyone saying you may have voted in the poll more than once, given that evidence, may actually be correct. 

You are lucky to have posting privileges at all after that.

It's nice you are a bandwagon Lawrence fan and all, but you still haven't really owned up to your half witted analysis being wrong - you call all of your absolute statements "presumptions" 
 - and the really glaring thing to me is that you haven't apologized for insulting the entire board and the entire fanbase multiple times during your TL-hate campaign. That's the reason I give you grief. And please don't deny insulting us, I've posted the evidence 6 times by now.

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https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/16020...QhwcbBKqOg

(12-12-2022, 02:25 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2022, 12:47 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Well I admited my presumptions were wrong about Lawrence, now the question is when will you admit you flat out lied when you said me and Ozjohnnie were the same person and said I hacked the trevor lawrence poll?

You wont tho.

Please stop with the accusations and revisionist history. 

Mods did not say you were the same poster as OZJ.  

Mods did ban you because you had multiple accounts logged in on the same day from the same IP address.
You were very graciously granted amnesty for something that should have banished you for good because you claim the other poster was your "roommate" 

Anyone saying you may have voted in the poll more than once, given that evidence, may actually be correct. 

You are lucky to have posting privileges at all after that.

It's nice you are a bandwagon Lawrence fan and all, but you still haven't really owned up to your half witted analysis being wrong - you call all of your absolute statements "presumptions" 
 - and the really glaring thing to me is that you haven't apologized for insulting the entire board and the entire fanbase multiple times during your TL-hate campaign. That's the reason I give you grief. And please don't deny insulting us, I've posted the evidence 6 times by now.

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https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/16020...QhwcbBKqOg

"I only insulted others because they insulted me first! I swear! Don't ban me again!"

(12-12-2022, 12:39 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2022, 08:28 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Cry Boy getting stiff-armed by Trevor.

This play was freakin' wild, man!!

Pederson was asked about it...  He laughed and said, ask Trevor...

Trevor was then asked about it...  

Trevor was like:  well,  you know, I thought I had it, probably shouldn't have done it, but we scored.... so.... 

Honestly, the Pederson and Trevor Presser from after the game are must listens.  Trevor even called himself out for underthrowing Zay on the TD catch Zay made in the 1st Half to go up 20-14.  Trevor Lawrence is the best freakin team first QB I've seen in a while.  

I hope he never loses this passion.  He's about to get the national spot light on him...  If he can stay grounded and not go all A-A-ron on us, we could be a consistent playoff contender

Yeah if we can get in position to make week 18 for the division and for a playoff spot, I don't know how a different game would be more important than this to flex into Sunday night so that national spotlight could be as soon as shortly after new years.  It will mean that the Jags have rattled off a bunch of late season wins and the league's next star is ready for his prime time Sunday night close up.  Collinsworth was saying during the HOF game broadcast that don't let what you're seeing here tonight color your opinion of the Jags, they're going to be much improved and pretty good...  or something to that effect.  Please let him have the chance to remind everyone during the week 18 broadcast.

(12-12-2022, 02:25 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2022, 12:47 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Well I admited my presumptions were wrong about Lawrence, now the question is when will you admit you flat out lied when you said me and Ozjohnnie were the same person and said I hacked the trevor lawrence poll?

You wont tho.

Please stop with the accusations and revisionist history. 

Mods did not say you were the same poster as OZJ.  

Mods did ban you because you had multiple accounts logged in on the same day from the same IP address.
You were very graciously granted amnesty for something that should have banished you for good because you claim the other poster was your "roommate" 

Anyone saying you may have voted in the poll more than once, given that evidence, may actually be correct. 

You are lucky to have posting privileges at all after that.

It's nice you are a bandwagon Lawrence fan and all, but you still haven't really owned up to your half witted analysis being wrong - you call all of your absolute statements "presumptions" 
 - and the really glaring thing to me is that you haven't apologized for insulting the entire board and the entire fanbase multiple times during your TL-hate campaign. That's the reason I give you grief. And please don't deny insulting us, I've posted the evidence 6 times by now.

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https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/16020...QhwcbBKqOg

A mod did say I was Ozjohnny it was FLS and he specifically said when I said "you know that's not true, he replied by saying "i know nothing of the sort"






I was banned for having the same IP address associated on my account with my roomate who (surprise, we both use the wifi here) 

It wasn't said that I voted multiple times, it was insinuated that I was the majority of the votes via some sort of hacking (lol)

I'm not gonna defend my stance on Lawrence anymore because it's increasingly obvious that you have created a narrative in your head and wont let it go, same with the other guy. But the other stuff is straight lies.

Side note: FLS also banned "rumpleteezer" or what ever and blatantly claimed that was me, and it wasn't.

He is that dude. We finally have a legitimate franchise QB. The fact that he had to earn it will only make him appreciate it more. Football is about to get real fun in Duval county.

(12-12-2022, 05:56 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2022, 02:25 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Please stop with the accusations and revisionist history. 

Mods did not say you were the same poster as OZJ.  

Mods did ban you because you had multiple accounts logged in on the same day from the same IP address.
You were very graciously granted amnesty for something that should have banished you for good because you claim the other poster was your "roommate" 

Anyone saying you may have voted in the poll more than once, given that evidence, may actually be correct. 

You are lucky to have posting privileges at all after that.

It's nice you are a bandwagon Lawrence fan and all, but you still haven't really owned up to your half witted analysis being wrong - you call all of your absolute statements "presumptions" 
 - and the really glaring thing to me is that you haven't apologized for insulting the entire board and the entire fanbase multiple times during your TL-hate campaign. That's the reason I give you grief. And please don't deny insulting us, I've posted the evidence 6 times by now.

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https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/16020...QhwcbBKqOg

A mod did say I was Ozjohnny it was FLS and he specifically said when I said "you know that's not true, he replied by saying "i know nothing of the sort"






I was banned for having the same IP address associated on my account with my roomate who (surprise, we both use the wifi here) 

It wasn't said that I voted multiple times, it was insinuated that I was the majority of the votes via some sort of hacking (lol)

I'm not gonna defend my stance on Lawrence anymore because it's increasingly obvious that you have created a narrative in your head and wont let it go, same with the other guy. But the other stuff is straight lies.

Side note: FLS also banned "rumpleteezer" or what ever and blatantly claimed that was me, and it wasn't.

I'll be more than happy to ban you again too.

Excited for the next 2 weeks. Trevor has been absolutely fantastic, but this great stretch has come against bottom of the barrel pass defenses. In the next 2 weeks we get the #2 and #4 pass defense in the NFL. It will be a great test to see how close he really is to busting through the door of becoming a top 8/elite QB.

(12-12-2022, 06:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/theryanmichael/statu...aK9rPXhb8Q

This blows my mind

(12-13-2022, 09:28 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2022, 06:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/theryanmichael/statu...aK9rPXhb8Q

This blows my mind

The analysis is 90% super great.

But that TD pass to Zay where the CB tips it...  That was a bad read.  Trevor Lawrence even admitted that he got lucky on that throw.  He said he shouldn't have thrown that ball, and he's absolutely right.

That ball is very similar to the INT in the end zone against the Broncos in London when it was obvious he didn't see the underneath CB.  

This time he got lucky.  That wasn't a great throw.  It was a great catch by Zay Jones!

We should all give credit to Zay.  Dude laid an absolute egg against the Lions.  Came out and just stunk it up.  This Sunday against the tacks?  He was focused, he was hungry, and we was giving it 110%.  I really do love the guy.  He's a #3 WR talent with so much heart and intelligence that he makes himself an all pro #2.

(12-12-2022, 05:56 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ][diatribe]

This board is about the Jags. Quit trying to make it about you, and you may end up catching less pushback, or earning more supporters.

I don't know if you've been wronged by a mod, nor do I care. As a long-time member of this board I'll warn that I see a lot of TMD in this pattern. You staunchly defend your take, in the process drawing the attention of mods, they act, you get mad, make the board your battlefield, and we all have to wander through the mines trying to engage and discuss the actual reason we all (mostly) want to visit and read. You're turning the corner, but it seems that your focus is still on the rear view mirror.

If you weren't around in the days of yore, I'll leave it at things did not fare well for TMD. Don't be like TMD.

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(12-13-2022, 03:34 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]Excited for the next 2 weeks. Trevor has been absolutely fantastic, but this great stretch has come against bottom of the barrel pass defenses. In the next 2 weeks we get the #2 and #4 pass defense in the NFL. It will be a great test to see how close he really is to busting through the door of becoming a top 8/elite QB.

Hey if Etienne wants to steal the show for a week or two, I'm all for it!

(12-13-2022, 09:39 AM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2022, 09:28 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]This blows my mind

The analysis is 90% super great.

But that TD pass to Zay where the CB tips it...  That was a bad read.  Trevor Lawrence even admitted that he got lucky on that throw.  He said he shouldn't have thrown that ball, and he's absolutely right.

That ball is very similar to the INT in the end zone against the Broncos in London when it was obvious he didn't see the underneath CB.  

This time he got lucky.  That wasn't a great throw.  It was a great catch by Zay Jones!

We should all give credit to Zay.  Dude laid an absolute egg against the Lions.  Came out and just stunk it up.  This Sunday against the tacks?  He was focused, he was hungry, and we was giving it 110%.  I really do love the guy.  He's a #3 WR talent with so much heart and intelligence that he makes himself an all pro #2.

I don't think it was a bad read, I do think it was a bad throw. If he dropped that over Zay's head into the corner then its a TD without any danger, Zay was open. He just needed to put a little more under that ball, but he was open.

(12-13-2022, 10:31 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2022, 09:39 AM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]The analysis is 90% super great.

But that TD pass to Zay where the CB tips it...  That was a bad read.  Trevor Lawrence even admitted that he got lucky on that throw.  He said he shouldn't have thrown that ball, and he's absolutely right.

That ball is very similar to the INT in the end zone against the Broncos in London when it was obvious he didn't see the underneath CB.  

This time he got lucky.  That wasn't a great throw.  It was a great catch by Zay Jones!

We should all give credit to Zay.  Dude laid an absolute egg against the Lions.  Came out and just stunk it up.  This Sunday against the tacks?  He was focused, he was hungry, and we was giving it 110%.  I really do love the guy.  He's a #3 WR talent with so much heart and intelligence that he makes himself an all pro #2.

I don't think it was a bad read, I do think it was a bad throw. If he dropped that over Zay's head into the corner then its a TD without any danger, Zay was open. He just needed to put a little more under that ball, but he was open.

My point is...  And Trevor's statement proved it, was that he didn't see the underneath CB.  For that reason alone, it was a bad throw.  We lucked out on that one.  It's cool.  It's not like I'm talking smack about our QB.  I've been defending Trevor since week 1 against Houston.

But he admitted it and you could see it.  He threw the ball with a lower trajectory because he didn't recognize the underneath CB was there.  Could he make the throw over the CB if he recognized it?  Maybe.  But that isn't the point.

The point is that he's a great QB and he's still recognizing that he can be better.

(12-12-2022, 10:06 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2022, 09:59 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Should've been DPI, the defender had his arm across Zay's right arm and was holding it down using the collar of his pads. It's only #becausejaguars that there wasn't a flag, that pass was Powerball-win type money.

They gave us a makeup call a couple of plays later.

haha!  yeah, I loved watching vrabel whine about it.  
The call I hated the most was the one on Agnew's KR TD.  There was no hold at all - the defender had his hand on the blocker's chest the whole time - blocker looked like he was reaching out to grab on, but never did.  Horrible that they would steal that from Agnew... Felt so bad for the kid there.  At least we drove it right down their throats and scored a TD anyway, but Agnew will never get that TD back.

(12-13-2022, 10:40 AM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2022, 10:31 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think it was a bad read, I do think it was a bad throw. If he dropped that over Zay's head into the corner then its a TD without any danger, Zay was open. He just needed to put a little more under that ball, but he was open.

My point is...  And Trevor's statement proved it, was that he didn't see the underneath CB.  For that reason alone, it was a bad throw.  We lucked out on that one.  It's cool.  It's not like I'm talking smack about our QB.  I've been defending Trevor since week 1 against Houston.

But he admitted it and you could see it.  He threw the ball with a lower trajectory because he didn't recognize the underneath CB was there.  Could he make the throw over the CB if he recognized it?  Maybe.  But that isn't the point.

The point is that he's a great QB and he's still recognizing that he can be better.

I agree. Just got caught up in the semantics that it was a bad read in general. Though him not seeing that defender can make it a bad read based on how he chose to play it so I get what you're saying.

So much better to have this convo when it ended in a TD than an INT though lol

(12-13-2022, 11:03 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2022, 10:40 AM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]My point is...  And Trevor's statement proved it, was that he didn't see the underneath CB.  For that reason alone, it was a bad throw.  We lucked out on that one.  It's cool.  It's not like I'm talking smack about our QB.  I've been defending Trevor since week 1 against Houston.

But he admitted it and you could see it.  He threw the ball with a lower trajectory because he didn't recognize the underneath CB was there.  Could he make the throw over the CB if he recognized it?  Maybe.  But that isn't the point.

The point is that he's a great QB and he's still recognizing that he can be better.

I agree. Just got caught up in the semantics that it was a bad read in general. Though him not seeing that defender can make it a bad read based on how he chose to play it so I get what you're saying.

So much better to have this convo when it ended in a TD than an INT though lol

Dude...

I don't know where you were when discussing that Denver INT in the end zone...  But yeah, it's a lot nicer having this discussion, for sure.

It's just nice having a QB that can be Trevor Lawrence.  He's just 100% normal, through and through.  I'm sick of this "he's just keeping it real" nonsense.  Lawrence isn't keeping it real, he's taking responsibility.  And that's what we should be praising.  A dude that sees things and then wonders how he could make it better.  That's what a man does.  

That's what Trevor Lawrence does.  I hope he continues to be the man.  The spot light next year can melt soft men.  But it can also reflect the brilliance of real men.  Time will tell.  (See Brett Farvre versus Peyton Manning)

(12-13-2022, 11:00 AM)scottyg Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2022, 10:06 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]They gave us a makeup call a couple of plays later.

haha!  yeah, I loved watching vrabel whine about it.  
The call I hated the most was the one on Agnew's KR TD.  There was no hold at all - the defender had his hand on the blocker's chest the whole time - blocker looked like he was reaching out to grab on, but never did.  Horrible that they would steal that from Agnew... Felt so bad for the kid there.  At least we drove it right down their throats and scored a TD anyway, but Agnew will never get that TD back.

I agree totally, but we wound up getting cosmic justice, because our subsequent touchdown drive took 7 minutes off the clock.

(12-13-2022, 11:10 AM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2022, 11:03 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]I agree. Just got caught up in the semantics that it was a bad read in general. Though him not seeing that defender can make it a bad read based on how he chose to play it so I get what you're saying.

So much better to have this convo when it ended in a TD than an INT though lol

Dude...

I don't know where you were when discussing that Denver INT in the end zone...  But yeah, it's a lot nicer having this discussion, for sure.

It's just nice having a QB that can be Trevor Lawrence.  He's just 100% normal, through and through.  I'm sick of this "he's just keeping it real" nonsense.  Lawrence isn't keeping it real, he's taking responsibility.  And that's what we should be praising.  A dude that sees things and then wonders how he could make it better.  That's what a man does.  

That's what Trevor Lawrence does.  I hope he continues to be the man.  The spot light next year can melt soft men.  But it can also reflect the brilliance of real men.  Time will tell.  (See Brett Farvre versus Peyton Manning)

I was around lol trying my best to defend him while recognizing that was a god awful play lol

Watching him develop this year has been amazing. Going from "man he shows so much promise but still those mistakes" to "Trevor is the [BLEEP] man" has been wild and fun.

I have no doubt he'll handle the spot light like a champ and still be him day in and day out. I could only imagine what someone like Zach Wilson would do with a little bit of success in the regard. Trevor is Trevor and I don't think anything will change his approach to things. I mean just look how he handled Urban Meyer as a rookie.