(12-26-2023, 05:44 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 05:40 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Lol, GMs don't pick assistants man, do you not follow anything about how pro teams are run? And you'd freaking trust BAALKE to pick them? Seriously?
Im talking about let the GM decide if he wants to keep Doug. Most GMs get to decide on which coach they want unless you are the Cowboys and a few others. Do you understand how pro teams are run?
Lol, yeah...suuuurrreeeee that's what you meant. Lol.
(12-26-2023, 06:13 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 05:59 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Since you aren't being specific:
Do you mean a new GM?
And do you think that if they hire a new GM, they'd hire one to make a decision on Doug rather than hire one they believe will be best suited to working with Doug?
Im saying when we get a new GM, let him decide if he wants to keep Doug. I think If Doug tells the new GM that he wants to keep Press and that Press will remain the play caller along with keeping Caldwell, Rauscher etc. that the new GM will go a different route. This is exactly what happened in Philly I just didnt think it would happen this soon. I dont see Doug making any changes at season end. To answer the question I think we need to find the best GM regardless, I havent even looked to see who is out there but if we lose to Carolina im going to start digging into it. Doug was also the coach when Philly selected Reagor over JJ, im sure he had input on that and it wasnt a good look when JJ was about to set the rookie record and Reagor was trash.
The dispute in Philly was as much about personnel as coaches. The iggles just put out the narrative that Pederson was unreasonable in wanting to name his own assistants so the GM could win his power struggle.
(12-26-2023, 06:13 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 05:59 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Since you aren't being specific:
Do you mean a new GM?
And do you think that if they hire a new GM, they'd hire one to make a decision on Doug rather than hire one they believe will be best suited to working with Doug?
Im saying when we get a new GM, let him decide if he wants to keep Doug. I think If Doug tells the new GM that he wants to keep Press and that Press will remain the play caller along with keeping Caldwell, Rauscher etc. that the new GM will go a different route. This is exactly what happened in Philly I just didnt think it would happen this soon. I dont see Doug making any changes at season end. To answer the question I think we need to find the best GM regardless, I havent even looked to see who is out there but if we lose to Carolina im going to start digging into it. Doug was also the coach when Philly selected Reagor over JJ, im sure he had input on that and it wasnt a good look when JJ was about to set the rookie record and Reagor was trash.
Yeah - this would require ownership having lost faith in Doug Pederson.
Do you seriously think that is happening right now?
If the Khans bring in a new GM this offseason - they are MUCH more likely to pick someone who they believe will help Doug fulfill his vision for the Jacksonville Jaguars than hire one they just allow to fire him or micromanage his assistant coaching hires.
(12-26-2023, 06:24 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 06:13 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Im saying when we get a new GM, let him decide if he wants to keep Doug. I think If Doug tells the new GM that he wants to keep Press and that Press will remain the play caller along with keeping Caldwell, Rauscher etc. that the new GM will go a different route. This is exactly what happened in Philly I just didnt think it would happen this soon. I dont see Doug making any changes at season end. To answer the question I think we need to find the best GM regardless, I havent even looked to see who is out there but if we lose to Carolina im going to start digging into it. Doug was also the coach when Philly selected Reagor over JJ, im sure he had input on that and it wasnt a good look when JJ was about to set the rookie record and Reagor was trash.
Yeah - this would predicate ownership having lost faith in Doug Pederson.
Do you seriously think that is happening right now?
If the Khans bring in a new GM this offseason - they are MUCH more likely to pick someone who they believe will help Doug fulfill his vision for the Jacksonville Jaguars than hire one they just allow to fire him or micromanage his assistant coaching hires.
I think so but I also think the GM will tell Doug and Khan that he would like him to return to be the play caller, thats part of what makes him a great coach. Will doug do it? Not sure. If Doug tells Khan that he doesnt want to be the play caller I think we should part ways.
(12-26-2023, 06:24 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 06:13 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Im saying when we get a new GM, let him decide if he wants to keep Doug. I think If Doug tells the new GM that he wants to keep Press and that Press will remain the play caller along with keeping Caldwell, Rauscher etc. that the new GM will go a different route. This is exactly what happened in Philly I just didnt think it would happen this soon. I dont see Doug making any changes at season end. To answer the question I think we need to find the best GM regardless, I havent even looked to see who is out there but if we lose to Carolina im going to start digging into it. Doug was also the coach when Philly selected Reagor over JJ, im sure he had input on that and it wasnt a good look when JJ was about to set the rookie record and Reagor was trash.
Yeah - this would require ownership having lost faith in Doug Pederson.
Do you seriously think that is happening right now?
If the Khans bring in a new GM this offseason - they are MUCH more likely to pick someone who they believe will help Doug fulfill his vision for the Jacksonville Jaguars than hire one they just allow to fire him or micromanage his assistant coaching hires.
Man, you're near Buffalo, NY.
Yet you sit here defending a trash OC, all while seeing how getting rid of bad coaches makes a world of difference.
Press Taylor is Ken Dorsey. The Bills flushed their trash. Now look at them.
And yet, here we are. Holding on to our OC like a constipated infant too feable and too dumb to figure out how to expel it's own [BLEEP].
Sometimes a HC, especially one like Who Pederson needs to get re-aligned with the vision of the franchise instead of his vision of a coaching legacy tree. Who Pederson needs to have a come to Shad meeting. And Shad needs to let him know that his lazy coaching isn't acceptable.
Fire Baalke, but the next GM should be one that is putting Pederson on the hot seat immediately. Pederson completely [BLEEP] the bed this season. And no amount of injuries or bad O-Line play can dismiss the fact that the HC decided to pass off responsibilities and the entire team has completely collapsed.
(12-26-2023, 07:20 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 06:24 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah - this would require ownership having lost faith in Doug Pederson.
Do you seriously think that is happening right now?
If the Khans bring in a new GM this offseason - they are MUCH more likely to pick someone who they believe will help Doug fulfill his vision for the Jacksonville Jaguars than hire one they just allow to fire him or micromanage his assistant coaching hires.
Man, you're near Buffalo, NY.
Yet you sit here defending a trash OC, all while seeing how getting rid of bad coaches makes a world of difference.
Press Taylor is Ken Dorsey. The Bills flushed their trash. Now look at them.
And yet, here we are. Holding on to our OC like a constipated infant too feable and too dumb to figure out how to expel it's own [BLEEP].
Sometimes a HC, especially one like Who Pederson needs to get re-aligned with the vision of the franchise instead of his vision of a coaching legacy tree. Who Pederson needs to have a come to Shad meeting. And Shad needs to let him know that his lazy coaching isn't acceptable.
Fire Baalke, but the next GM should be one that is putting Pederson on the hot seat immediately. Pederson completely [BLEEP] the bed this season. And no amount of injuries or bad O-Line play can dismiss the fact that the HC decided to pass off responsibilities and the entire team has completely collapsed.
Manhattan is nowhere near Buffalo chuckle-nuts, and I'm 1600 miles from there.
I don't know what needs to happen in order for the coaches to get these players to stop killing their chances of victory with idiotic mistakes and poor play.
But you could put any OC under the sun in the Jags skybox this year and they'd have a tough go of it with our players' performance and OL lack of ability.
You're inability to understand that makes debating it with you absolutely pointless.
(09-24-2023, 04:19 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2023, 04:10 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]No line protection for sure. Trevor missed some throws and there was drops. Commentator even mentioned he missed open guys they even showed some replays but maybe hes getting gun shy from the protection idk. I just know Stroud looked much better today.
I mean my goodness … on tank dells two deep balls they were complete busts ! No safety in the middle of the field corner outside leverage so he can just run a skinny post and completely get behind the defense ? Are we serious? And the TD what the heck have we never played a bunch set before ?
Multiple other receivers with no one in the vicinity and 0 pressure on a Backup o line ?
Watch stroud will end up looking like every other rookie QB for most of the rest of the year ….
We just managed to make a game so easy for a rookie it looked like he was playing against Rutgers when he was at Ohio state…
Pathetic .
Heads need to roll for this . At least figure out who wants to man up and do their fricking jobs . What these grown men are getting paid to sticking do .
(12-26-2023, 11:38 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 11:29 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]kinda like when people compare peytons ints his first 2 years vs lawrence lol
You should check out TD/INT ratios and INT % stats.
Those are virtually unaffected by "era" of play.
Hint: You won't like the result because it takes a giant [BLEEP] all over your garbage QB takes
Yep agreed
(09-24-2023, 04:19 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2023, 04:10 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]No line protection for sure. Trevor missed some throws and there was drops. Commentator even mentioned he missed open guys they even showed some replays but maybe hes getting gun shy from the protection idk. I just know Stroud looked much better today.
I mean my goodness … on tank dells two deep balls they were complete busts ! No safety in the middle of the field corner outside leverage so he can just run a skinny post and completely get behind the defense ? Are we serious? And the TD what the heck have we never played a bunch set before ?
Multiple other receivers with no one in the vicinity and 0 pressure on a Backup o line ?
Watch stroud will end up looking like every other rookie QB for most of the rest of the year ….
We just managed to make a game so easy for a rookie it looked like he was playing against Rutgers when he was at Ohio state…
Pathetic .
Heads need to roll for this . At least figure out who wants to man up and do their fricking jobs . What these grown men are getting paid to sticking do .
(12-26-2023, 03:14 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/samkouvaris/status/1...spGSA&s=19
Assuming we miss the playoffs, there will be sacrificial lamb cuts amongst the coaching staff. Have to think Chad Hall would be near the top if not the very top. No idea if it's his fault we've had so much miscommunication by Wrs leading to INTs but someone needs to be held accountable for it.
Have to think Rauscher is an obvious choice as well.
I could tell those 2 ints were not on him live during the game and idiots on twitter were blaming Trevor.
(12-26-2023, 07:47 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2023, 04:19 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: [ -> ]I mean my goodness … on tank dells two deep balls they were complete busts ! No safety in the middle of the field corner outside leverage so he can just run a skinny post and completely get behind the defense ? Are we serious? And the TD what the heck have we never played a bunch set before ?
Multiple other receivers with no one in the vicinity and 0 pressure on a Backup o line ?
Watch stroud will end up looking like every other rookie QB for most of the rest of the year ….
We just managed to make a game so easy for a rookie it looked like he was playing against Rutgers when he was at Ohio state…
Pathetic .
Heads need to roll for this . At least figure out who wants to man up and do their fricking jobs . What these grown men are getting paid to sticking do .
(12-26-2023, 11:38 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]You should check out TD/INT ratios and INT % stats.
Those are virtually unaffected by "era" of play.
Hint: You won't like the result because it takes a giant [BLEEP] all over your garbage QB takes
Yep agreed
(09-24-2023, 04:19 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: [ -> ]I mean my goodness … on tank dells two deep balls they were complete busts ! No safety in the middle of the field corner outside leverage so he can just run a skinny post and completely get behind the defense ? Are we serious? And the TD what the heck have we never played a bunch set before ?
Multiple other receivers with no one in the vicinity and 0 pressure on a Backup o line ?
Watch stroud will end up looking like every other rookie QB for most of the rest of the year ….
We just managed to make a game so easy for a rookie it looked like he was playing against Rutgers when he was at Ohio state…
Pathetic .
Heads need to roll for this . At least figure out who wants to man up and do their fricking jobs . What these grown men are getting paid to sticking do .
(12-26-2023, 03:14 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/samkouvaris/status/1...spGSA&s=19
Assuming we miss the playoffs, there will be sacrificial lamb cuts amongst the coaching staff. Have to think Chad Hall would be near the top if not the very top. No idea if it's his fault we've had so much miscommunication by Wrs leading to INTs but someone needs to be held accountable for it.
Have to think Rauscher is an obvious choice as well.
I could tell those 2 ints were not on him live during the game and idiots on twitter were blaming Trevor.
That was on the players but it also falls on the coaches. The coaches should have these guys ready and we shouldnt be having these problems this late in the season.
(12-26-2023, 07:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 07:47 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]Yep agreed
I could tell those 2 ints were not on him live during the game and idiots on twitter were blaming Trevor.
That was on the players but it also falls on the coaches. The coaches should have these guys ready and we shouldnt be having these problems this late in the season.
Yeah, bench that #5 receiver and put in...ummm..uh...well...somebody has to go out there.
(12-26-2023, 07:08 AM)Shad Khans Mustache Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 03:56 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Brunell never threw for more than 20 TDs (twice) in his entire career here.
In 96 when they made the first AFCCG, he had 22 Total TDs (19 Passing, 3 Rushing), 20 INT and 14 Fumbles that season.
In 99 when they made the second AFCCG, he had 15 Total TDs (14 Passing, 1 Rushing), 9 INT and 6 Fumbles that season.
Don't get me wrong, I love Brunell, but Lawrence is absolutely better than he was.
Comparing stats back than to now is pretty idiotic.
This will be the one and only time I respond to your dumb [BLEEP].
Passing leaders in TDs in 1996, 39 TD, 2nd was 33.
Passing leaders in TDs in 1999, 41, 2nd is 36.
Passing leaders in TDs in 2023, 30, 2nd is 29.
(12-26-2023, 07:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 07:20 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Man, you're near Buffalo, NY.
Yet you sit here defending a trash OC, all while seeing how getting rid of bad coaches makes a world of difference.
Press Taylor is Ken Dorsey. The Bills flushed their trash. Now look at them.
And yet, here we are. Holding on to our OC like a constipated infant too feable and too dumb to figure out how to expel it's own [BLEEP].
Sometimes a HC, especially one like Who Pederson needs to get re-aligned with the vision of the franchise instead of his vision of a coaching legacy tree. Who Pederson needs to have a come to Shad meeting. And Shad needs to let him know that his lazy coaching isn't acceptable.
Fire Baalke, but the next GM should be one that is putting Pederson on the hot seat immediately. Pederson completely [BLEEP] the bed this season. And no amount of injuries or bad O-Line play can dismiss the fact that the HC decided to pass off responsibilities and the entire team has completely collapsed.
Manhattan is nowhere near Buffalo chuckle-nuts, and I'm 1600 miles from there.
I don't know what needs to happen in order for the coaches to get these players to stop killing their chances of victory with idiotic mistakes and poor play.
But you could put any OC under the sun in the Jags skybox this year and they'd have a tough go of it with our players' performance and OL lack of ability.
You're inability to understand that makes debating it with you absolutely pointless.
Better play calling would help. I’m so sure of this. You don’t go from having a good offensive last year with the same players except for some upgrades to this crap.
(12-26-2023, 07:20 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 06:24 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah - this would require ownership having lost faith in Doug Pederson.
Do you seriously think that is happening right now?
If the Khans bring in a new GM this offseason - they are MUCH more likely to pick someone who they believe will help Doug fulfill his vision for the Jacksonville Jaguars than hire one they just allow to fire him or micromanage his assistant coaching hires.
Man, you're near Buffalo, NY.
Yet you sit here defending a trash OC, all while seeing how getting rid of bad coaches makes a world of difference.
Press Taylor is Ken Dorsey. The Bills flushed their trash. Now look at them.
And yet, here we are. Holding on to our OC like a constipated infant too feable and too dumb to figure out how to expel it's own [BLEEP].
Sometimes a HC, especially one like Who Pederson needs to get re-aligned with the vision of the franchise instead of his vision of a coaching legacy tree. Who Pederson needs to have a come to Shad meeting. And Shad needs to let him know that his lazy coaching isn't acceptable.
Fire Baalke, but the next GM should be one that is putting Pederson on the hot seat immediately. Pederson completely [BLEEP] the bed this season. And no amount of injuries or bad O-Line play can dismiss the fact that the HC decided to pass off responsibilities and the entire team has completely collapsed.
100% accurate
(12-26-2023, 09:06 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 07:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Manhattan is nowhere near Buffalo chuckle-nuts, and I'm 1600 miles from there.
I don't know what needs to happen in order for the coaches to get these players to stop killing their chances of victory with idiotic mistakes and poor play.
But you could put any OC under the sun in the Jags skybox this year and they'd have a tough go of it with our players' performance and OL lack of ability.
You're inability to understand that makes debating it with you absolutely pointless.
Better play calling would help. I’m so sure of this. You don’t go from having a good offensive last year with the same players except for some upgrades to this crap.
(12-26-2023, 07:20 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Man, you're near Buffalo, NY.
Yet you sit here defending a trash OC, all while seeing how getting rid of bad coaches makes a world of difference.
Press Taylor is Ken Dorsey. The Bills flushed their trash. Now look at them.
And yet, here we are. Holding on to our OC like a constipated infant too feable and too dumb to figure out how to expel it's own [BLEEP].
Sometimes a HC, especially one like Who Pederson needs to get re-aligned with the vision of the franchise instead of his vision of a coaching legacy tree. Who Pederson needs to have a come to Shad meeting. And Shad needs to let him know that his lazy coaching isn't acceptable.
Fire Baalke, but the next GM should be one that is putting Pederson on the hot seat immediately. Pederson completely [BLEEP] the bed this season. And no amount of injuries or bad O-Line play can dismiss the fact that the HC decided to pass off responsibilities and the entire team has completely collapsed.
100% accurate
Zay in and out
Kirk out
Ridley rusty
left side oline shuffling
center deep in a sophomore slump
hobbled qb trying to figure out how to manage big injuries week to week
this is not the same situation as last year
(12-26-2023, 09:05 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 07:08 AM)Shad Khans Mustache Wrote: [ -> ]Comparing stats back than to now is pretty idiotic.
This will be the one and only time I respond to your dumb [BLEEP].
Passing leaders in TDs in 1996, 39 TD, 2nd was 33.
Passing leaders in TDs in 1999, 41, 2nd is 36.
Passing leaders in TDs in 2023, 30, 2nd is 29.
There been production inflation, but it's still worth comparing among contemporaries, and Brunel was never good compared with the franchise QBs of the time.
Good QBs would throw more than 20 TDs, and great ones would throw in the 30s. Brunell only threw for as many as 20 here, which is pretty pathetic considering the talent surrounding him.
(09-24-2023, 04:19 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2023, 04:10 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]No line protection for sure. Trevor missed some throws and there was drops. Commentator even mentioned he missed open guys they even showed some replays but maybe hes getting gun shy from the protection idk. I just know Stroud looked much better today.
I mean my goodness … on tank dells two deep balls they were complete busts ! No safety in the middle of the field corner outside leverage so he can just run a skinny post and completely get behind the defense ? Are we serious? And the TD what the heck have we never played a bunch set before ?
Multiple other receivers with no one in the vicinity and 0 pressure on a Backup o line ?
Watch stroud will end up looking like every other rookie QB for most of the rest of the year ….
We just managed to make a game so easy for a rookie it looked like he was playing against Rutgers when he was at Ohio state…
Pathetic .
Heads need to roll for this . At least figure out who wants to man up and do their fricking jobs . What these grown men are getting paid to sticking do .
(12-26-2023, 11:28 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 09:05 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]This will be the one and only time I respond to your dumb [BLEEP].
Passing leaders in TDs in 1996, 39 TD, 2nd was 33.
Passing leaders in TDs in 1999, 41, 2nd is 36.
Passing leaders in TDs in 2023, 30, 2nd is 29.
There been production inflation, but it's still worth comparing among contemporaries, and Brunel was never good compared with the franchise QBs of the time.
Good QBs would throw more than 20 TDs, and great ones would throw in the 30s. Brunell only threw for as many as 20 here, which is pretty pathetic considering the talent surrounding him.
Personally I think talent wise Garrard was better than Brunell or at least equal.
So to sum it up - Lawrence needs elite blocking to flourish. Guy can't buy pocket time to save his life. Good luck with all the elite pass rushers in the AFC.
Won't matter how many early rds we spend on OL this upcoming draft. You're OL is somewhat as good as your personnel & QB is
(12-27-2023, 01:30 AM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2023, 04:19 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: [ -> ]I mean my goodness … on tank dells two deep balls they were complete busts ! No safety in the middle of the field corner outside leverage so he can just run a skinny post and completely get behind the defense ? Are we serious? And the TD what the heck have we never played a bunch set before ?
Multiple other receivers with no one in the vicinity and 0 pressure on a Backup o line ?
Watch stroud will end up looking like every other rookie QB for most of the rest of the year ….
We just managed to make a game so easy for a rookie it looked like he was playing against Rutgers when he was at Ohio state…
Pathetic .
Heads need to roll for this . At least figure out who wants to man up and do their fricking jobs . What these grown men are getting paid to sticking do .
(12-26-2023, 11:28 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]There been production inflation, but it's still worth comparing among contemporaries, and Brunel was never good compared with the franchise QBs of the time.
Good QBs would throw more than 20 TDs, and great ones would throw in the 30s. Brunell only threw for as many as 20 here, which is pretty pathetic considering the talent surrounding him.
Personally I think talent wise Garrard was better than Brunell or at least equal.
Garrard had potential to be maybe the next Steve McNair or Donovan McNabb had the Del Rio era not decided to pull the trigger too soon on Brunell and Leftwich.
Brunell still had a good year or two left in the tank. He showed that with Joe Gibbs in Washington when he helped lead their team back to the play-off's.
Garrard was never really given a fair shake to start and develop. The knock on him was his tendency to check it down, which, you know, for that time and that offense relying on two really good runners? It didn't hurt us too bad. They tried adding pieces like Reggie Williams and Matt Jones but it never worked out.
With that said? It's hard to stack up any of our QB's with Brunell. He helped cultivate Coughlin's culture here for five years in a row. Put Jacksonville on the map and had some memorable moments in some good games for us and some forgettable moments in some bad losses for us.
That's the nature of the sport and position as a whole. We can all certainly agree on one thing though, the amount of talent that Brunell had at his disposal, combined with a competent offensive line with a hall of fame LT on it, a hall of fame caliber WR1 and RB1 and a really good supporting cast at WR2 and TE?
Nothing has come close to that success until as recently as last year and this year. We have the QB, we have the skill position players, we just don't have the lineman up front to make it work and we're really not all that great on defense like those teams were in the 1990's as well. Something that gets overlooked I think.
We just don't do enough consistently on defense to wow anybody. As much [BLEEP] as Lawrence is taking for this team's woes and [BLEEP] up's? This defense had two massive let downs in two weeks in a row in games where we could have and probably should have won and we're not sweating these last two weeks so much.
Frustrating. This team shot the gap, missed their landing and now their hanging on by their fingertips. It is what it is.
(12-27-2023, 07:26 AM)Shad Khans Mustache Wrote: [ -> ]So to sum it up - Lawrence needs elite blocking to flourish. Guy can't buy pocket time to save his life. Good luck with all the elite pass rushers in the AFC.
Won't matter how many early rds we spend on OL this upcoming draft. You're OL is somewhat as good as your personnel & QB is
A lot of us said this immediately after the loss to the Chiefs in the play off's.
Lawrence doesn't need elite blocking to flourish. He needs probably just an average offensive line, around the 16th range. You do realize this offensive line is dog [BLEEP], correct? It was ranked 31st last year, it was noted by the staff, as they were wearing shirts about it during training camp to remind them what the public thought of them.
They're worse this year now. Close to dead last once again. The running game is gone. One running game for Etienne with over 100 yards this year. At one point he was 2nd to only McCaffrey in San Francisco and since that timeline he's maybe cracked 50 yards rushing on the ground once. He just had 6 carries for 12 yards in the loss in Tampa.
You're a dumb [BLEEP] man, that's all it boils down to. Blaming the QB for five [BLEEP] box lineman up front just shows that you're dumber than a 2nd coat of paint. Dumber than a box of rocks. All of the top tier teams in the NFL have competent to above average offensive lines in the business. Stop eating paint chips. Stop sniffing glue.
Go do your homework. Troll...
Garrard better than Brunell? Wow
Brunell pathetic? Big Wow
They should take his name down from the pride. He’s pathetic, and Garrard was better. Garrard led all QBs in the league in passing yards and rushing yards in same year. Multiple Pro Bowls, and AFC Championship games. Helped put 2 WRs in the Pro Bowl, while having a future hall of famer at rb that requires his touches. Garrard led the Jaguars to 4 straight playoffs. Garrard lost no more than 7 games as a starter in any season as a Jaguars starting QB. Garrard’s MVP in the Pro Bowl was pretty cool too. The NFL selected him to the QB challenges during bc he was that dude. I remember Berman saying Garrard was playing QB better than anybody in the league in 1998. Especially that 1 season when Garrard had 4300. Garrard holds 2 of the top 3 most passing yards in a single game in Jaguars history. All Brunell could do was throw the quick slant.
They need to put Garrard in the Pride at halftime of the Panthers game.
Garrard left Jacksonville and took the Dolphins to the playoffs. Dude was Himothy! Best QB in franchise history. He’s in the top 5 of best Jaguars players in franchise history.
Garrard was also a national champion in college.
(12-27-2023, 07:26 AM)Shad Khans Mustache Wrote: [ -> ]So to sum it up - Lawrence needs elite blocking to flourish. Guy can't buy pocket time to save his life. Good luck with all the elite pass rushers in the AFC.
Won't matter how many early rds we spend on OL this upcoming draft. You're OL is somewhat as good as your personnel & QB is
Lol, what tripe. How about we graduate slowly and maybe let him have the 25th or 26th best line in the League instead of the very worst. That you can't see that all of our success is Lawrence making those guys look better than they are, well, then you're blind or a troll. Maybe both.
(12-26-2023, 08:57 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 07:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]That was on the players but it also falls on the coaches. The coaches should have these guys ready and we shouldnt be having these problems this late in the season.
Yeah, bench that #5 receiver and put in...ummm..uh...well...somebody has to go out there.
Then it's still on the coaches if a player isn't able to get the correct play call do to inexperience then a timeout should be called or audibles should be off the table.
(12-27-2023, 12:29 PM)Protozoa Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2023, 08:57 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, bench that #5 receiver and put in...ummm..uh...well...somebody has to go out there.
Then it's still on the coaches if a player isn't able to get the correct play call do to inexperience then a timeout should be called or audibles should be off the table.
Why do people try so hard to place blame other than where it goes? It's dumbfounding.