(12-26-2022, 07:06 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2022, 07:02 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]I could have sworn I've seen him admit he was wrong.
There are just a few posters that are just unable to stop talking about him.
Can we just move on and stop this weird CJB obsession?
Same here.
I personally don’t care for the back and forth about who was more right than the other or shoving it in one’s face. But I’ve been on and reading this board long enough to know how it all goes. CJB isn’t doing himself any favors, though. Despite admitting his wrongdoing. Not that I agree with the push back he gets. I just want to hear more talk about how we have the right coach and QB to win the next 10 division titles. Let bygones be bygones and let franchise QB’s be franchise QB’s.
Yeah, and I agree.
But I've seen CJB compliment Trevor and then the same posters come out doing the [BLEEP] talking on CJB's post history. It's just a weird obsession at this point.
(12-26-2022, 06:49 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2022, 06:30 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]It is pretty crazy. Having Lawrence. Having Pederson. Feels like a teal tidal wave of dominance is imminent in this division at the minimum.
I have been telling people not to drink the teal koolaid yet. Thats only because I already had two gallons to myself and it's so good I dont want anybody else to know where it's at on sale.
This doesn't feel like a little flicker of a light bulb or a flash in the pan. I think some fans get it and some other's get it but are terrified of it.
We could be looking at a legit, well above .500 on average, always in the conversation, always hovering around the top ten team discussion for the next TEN or MORE years.
Going to be fun.
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AFC South champs for the foreseeable future.
Continued playoff berths. Deep playoff runs.
That’s what we can expect. AFC is loaded at QB with Mahomes, Allen, Burrow and Herbert but now you can add Trevor to the mix. Feels fantastic.
That's the hope. No team is loaded in every position on both sides of the ball so you either invest heavy in an elite D and have enough weapons on O (like the 49ers this year, oh and an O genius like Shanahan) or have an elite QB that can put a team on his back and win you games. We've got that elite QB now and you look around the league and see the teams, like the Jets, that could be really good but just don't have the QB.
Lawrence is our guy for the next 15 years and I don't see help coming for any AFC South team soon at QB. Its our division to take over and we have all the tools to make it our division.
The AFC playoffs could be insane for the next decade. So much talent as you list. But we are have a guy who can compete with any of those, just need to keep building the roster and ever improving it.
The future is bright and Lawrence is that star shining.
(12-26-2022, 08:46 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2022, 06:49 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]AFC South champs for the foreseeable future.
Continued playoff berths. Deep playoff runs.
That’s what we can expect. AFC is loaded at QB with Mahomes, Allen, Burrow and Herbert but now you can add Trevor to the mix. Feels fantastic.
That's the hope. No team is loaded in every position on both sides of the ball so you either invest heavy in an elite D and have enough weapons on O (like the 49ers this year, oh and an O genius like Shanahan) or have an elite QB that can put a team on his back and win you games. We've got that elite QB now and you look around the league and see the teams, like the Jets, that could be really good but just don't have the QB.
Lawrence is our guy for the next 15 years and I don't see help coming for any AFC South team soon at QB. Its our division to take over and we have all the tools to make it our division.
The AFC playoffs could be insane for the next decade. So much talent as you list. But we are have a guy who can compete with any of those, just need to keep building the roster and ever improving it.
The future is bright and Lawrence is that star shining.
Houston will have the #1 pick. They've got a decent shot at hitting on their franchise guy.
(12-26-2022, 07:18 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2022, 07:06 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]Same here.
I personally don’t care for the back and forth about who was more right than the other or shoving it in one’s face. But I’ve been on and reading this board long enough to know how it all goes. CJB isn’t doing himself any favors, though. Despite admitting his wrongdoing. Not that I agree with the push back he gets. I just want to hear more talk about how we have the right coach and QB to win the next 10 division titles. Let bygones be bygones and let franchise QB’s be franchise QB’s.
Yeah, and I agree.
But I've seen CJB compliment Trevor and then the same posters come out doing the [BLEEP] talking on CJB's post history. It's just a weird obsession at this point.
Lol, he comes out with "I'm so glad he fixed all those things he did wrong that I was right about" and we supposed to just brush it off. Nah. Lawrence is good, CJB was a putz.
(12-26-2022, 09:29 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2022, 08:46 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]That's the hope. No team is loaded in every position on both sides of the ball so you either invest heavy in an elite D and have enough weapons on O (like the 49ers this year, oh and an O genius like Shanahan) or have an elite QB that can put a team on his back and win you games. We've got that elite QB now and you look around the league and see the teams, like the Jets, that could be really good but just don't have the QB.
Lawrence is our guy for the next 15 years and I don't see help coming for any AFC South team soon at QB. Its our division to take over and we have all the tools to make it our division.
The AFC playoffs could be insane for the next decade. So much talent as you list. But we are have a guy who can compete with any of those, just need to keep building the roster and ever improving it.
The future is bright and Lawrence is that star shining.
Houston will have the #1 pick. They've got a decent shot at hitting on their franchise guy.
I’m very glad they don’t have the #1 pick next year.
Caleb Williams and Drake Maye are both better than any QB in this upcoming class
(12-26-2022, 09:38 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2022, 09:29 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]Houston will have the #1 pick. They've got a decent shot at hitting on their franchise guy.
I’m very glad they don’t have the #1 pick next year.
Caleb Williams and Drake Maye are both better than any QB in this upcoming class
Agree completely. The following year Drew Allar is going to be a stud as well.
(12-26-2022, 09:38 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2022, 09:29 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]Houston will have the #1 pick. They've got a decent shot at hitting on their franchise guy.
I’m very glad they don’t have the #1 pick next year.
Caleb Williams and Drake Maye are both better than any QB in this upcoming class
For sure. Being a fellow Tar Heel myself, I really think Maye has the tools to be a superior NFL QB when his time comes.
(12-26-2022, 09:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2022, 07:18 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, and I agree.
But I've seen CJB compliment Trevor and then the same posters come out doing the [BLEEP] talking on CJB's post history. It's just a weird obsession at this point.
Lol, he comes out with "I'm so glad he fixed all those things he did wrong that I was right about" and we supposed to just brush it off. Nah. Lawrence is good, CJB was a putz.
So you are telling me he was a finished product the day he stepped on the field week 1 of his rookie season? Are you telling me he didn't sail passes consistently as I said he did prior to him coming here? Are you telling me he hasn't made boneheaded throws like the two goal line ints? Are you telling me he hasn't been a lot better the second half of this season than he was the first season and a half?
Some players don't get better, some come in and stay stagnate infact, that's the more likely scenario. I'm not saying that I'm right in my concern in terms of whether or not he'd pan out, because I never said he wouldn't. I've always said he has the talent and its about his mental ability to improve. I think the biggest disconnect for me, the media, and some of you is that he was touted to be a perfect can't miss, ready to go week 1 starter and that just wasn't true. That dosen't mean he's a bad player or a bust, it just means he had stuff to improve on. Hearing him compared to a guy like Luck who for all intents and purposes was the most NFL ready QB I've ever seen come out of a draft, which was further proven with his play on the field year 1 rubbed me the wrong way.
Either way none of it matters, i'm just happy that he's shown up big recently.
EDIT: Also I don't come out and say "WOO IM GLAD HE FIXED THE ISSUES I POINTED OUT LOL IM SO SMART"
No, I just congratulate him on playing better and then one of the usual suspects make a silly comment dragging us back into a dumb conversation that we've already had.
(12-26-2022, 11:06 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2022, 09:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Lol, he comes out with "I'm so glad he fixed all those things he did wrong that I was right about" and we supposed to just brush it off. Nah. Lawrence is good, CJB was a putz.
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...I think the biggest disconnect for me, the media, and some of you is that he was touted to be a perfect can't miss, ready to go week 1 starter and that just wasn't true.
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If anyone actually told you that, and I seriously doubt they did, you'd be an absolute fool to believe it. It almost
never works that way.
Furthermore, once you realized what a [BLEEP] situation he was in as a rookie, you should have expected even less from the kid in his first year.
Of course - you were blindly on board with Meyer so you were reluctant to admit that error and factor it into the team's struggles.
![[Image: CJB-Meyer.png]](https://i.postimg.cc/XvJ0Wk3h/CJB-Meyer.png)
(12-26-2022, 11:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2022, 11:06 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]...
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...I think the biggest disconnect for me, the media, and some of you is that he was touted to be a perfect can't miss, ready to go week 1 starter and that just wasn't true.
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If anyone actually told you that, and I seriously doubt they did, you'd be an absolute fool to believe it. It almost never works that way.
Furthermore, once you realized what a [BLEEP] situation he was in as a rookie, you should have expected even less from the kid in his first year.
Of course - you were blindly on board with Meyer so you were reluctant to admit that error and factor it into the team's struggles.
I think the idea of Meyer sounded cool, of course with Urban I didn't follow his career or anything I had only heard of how "good of a college coach" he was and rolled with it. With Lawrence, I've seen every play of his career from Clemson to Jax, it's a lot easier to point out flaws when you have actually paid attention to the player. I don't really know what your point with the above picture is, seems like something I said after a press conference or something.. don't know where I was "Blindly on board" with how he coaches.
I'm not trying to sit here and tell you that the coaching didn't hurt Trevor, or the WRs dropping passes didn't hurt him. But, there was more bad than good from him early on and i'm not talking about dropped passes or poor play design. I'm talking about over shooting wide open WRs, I'm talking about throwing an int to a linebacker with no wr/te in the area, i'm talking about throwing goal line ints on 1st down i'm talking about things that he alone is responsible for.
(12-26-2022, 12:12 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]If you have any vintage Jags gear, it’s hot stuff right now.
In related news, I got a Lawrence jersey for Christmas. It’s getting worn to the tittians game.
I have a Big John game worn sideline cape.. Got the semi old logo on it. Don't think they'd let anyone in wearing that tent lolol
(12-26-2022, 11:52 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2022, 11:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]If anyone actually told you that, and I seriously doubt they did, you'd be an absolute fool to believe it. It almost never works that way.
Furthermore, once you realized what a [BLEEP] situation he was in as a rookie, you should have expected even less from the kid in his first year.
Of course - you were blindly on board with Meyer so you were reluctant to admit that error and factor it into the team's struggles.
I think the idea of Meyer sounded cool, of course with Urban I didn't follow his career or anything I had only heard of how "good of a college coach" he was and rolled with it. With Lawrence, I've seen every play of his career from Clemson to Jax, it's a lot easier to point out flaws when you have actually paid attention to the player. I don't really know what your point with the above picture is, seems like something I said after a press conference or something.. don't know where I was "Blindly on board" with how he coaches.
I'm not trying to sit here and tell you that the coaching didn't hurt Trevor, or the WRs dropping passes didn't hurt him. But, there was more bad than good from him early on and i'm not talking about dropped passes or poor play design. I'm talking about over shooting wide open WRs, I'm talking about throwing an int to a linebacker with no wr/te in the area, i'm talking about throwing goal line ints on 1st down i'm talking about things that he alone is responsible for.
What you should be talking about is what an absolute moron you were for overreacting to every single mistake made by a rookie QB in a historically mismanaged situation.
But, instead, you just keep spewing a bunch of backpedaling horse [BLEEP].
Whatever.
Just stop. It's tiresome. You [BLEEP] up. Stop defending it.
(12-26-2022, 12:12 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]If you have any vintage Jags gear, it’s hot stuff right now.
In related news, I got a Lawrence jersey for Christmas. It’s getting worn to the tittians game.
I have a 1995 t-shirt with the original leaping jaguar logo on the front. It's falling apart, literally rags at this point. But I keep it anyway.
(12-27-2022, 08:29 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2022, 12:12 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]If you have any vintage Jags gear, it’s hot stuff right now.
In related news, I got a Lawrence jersey for Christmas. It’s getting worn to the tittians game.
I have a 1995 t-shirt with the original leaping jaguar logo on the front. It's falling apart, literally rags at this point. But I keep it anyway.
I have my original Boselli jersey…
(12-27-2022, 09:17 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I guess the network is trying to figure out who to flex to Sunday night.
Note: Trevor Lawrence, face of the franchise.
https://twitter.com/SNFonNBC/status/1607...8cOOgKunJA
It ought to be the game that matters the most. I don't know if there is a game that matters more than the Titans and Jags.
Ravens play sunday night and bengals play monday night. there could be some pushback if they were scheduled to play saturday night. the more I think about the more likely I see us playing saturday night. Only caveat would be if the bengals clinch the division this weekend. but if the bengals and ravens are playing for division title, I'm leaning towards that being the sunday night game instead of us.
(12-27-2022, 09:39 AM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]Ravens play sunday night and bengals play monday night. there could be some pushback if they were scheduled to play saturday night. the more I think about the more likely I see us playing saturday night. Only caveat would be if the bengals clinch the division this weekend. but if the bengals and ravens are playing for division title, I'm leaning towards that being the sunday night game instead of us.
Could be. Truth be told, I'd prefer ours to be the Saturday night one because we'll probably be tailgating all day leading up to it and not having to work the next day would be nice. Pack vs. Lions could also be a win or go home game as well, but will rely on the commies results the next two weeks. Also, the Ravens would be playing back to back Sunday Night games if it plays out like you say above. Not unprecedented, but probably not necessarily what NBC or the league wants either. And you're more familiar with division opponents so a day less to prepare, even two isn't quite as big a deal as it would be with out of division games.
If there is a scenario where we get in as a wildcard going into week 18, they'll probably put us on Saturday because they won't want the result of those others games we need to go certain ways to be known to us going in. That said, I still think our game is the most "unaffected by other results" game going in and also very likely an elimination game so is probably the safest bet for Sunday Night. And it would just come full circle for Collinsworth who was telling everyone on the broadcast of the HOF game that "don't let what you're seeing tonight fool you, these Jaguars are going to be good this year" or something to that effect. He'll get his "I told you so" opportunity if they get to call our game.
Also, the league apparently needs to make the Saturday scheduling decisions by the Sunday night of week 17 which is obviously before the Bengals Monday night matchup with the Bills. A little bit of additional uncertainty on the significance of their week 18 matchup against the Ravens.