(12-20-2023, 11:14 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/SmokedByHyatt/status...67468?s=20
Daniel Jones is trash and has always been trash.
Giants got fooled just like the Jags were fooled by Bortles.
I for one was not fooled by the boat #5
Yes, Trevor Lawrence’s first season when he had wide receivers who dropped the ball all the time and an even worse offensive line needs to be taken into consideration when looking at his stats. #16 is a baller
(12-18-2023, 01:47 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]iHaunting raven I seem to recall you bashing me for critiques I had of Trevor, you're not allowed to change your mind now that's forbidden sir.
You are trying this again, clown? Show me one post of me saying Lawrence was/is elite or a generational talent. You are the clown who was saying it was better to trade #1 overall and more for Deshaun Watson, and you even call me a racist for saying that Watson was not an elite QB, how is your guy doing?
Everyone knows you are are clown so shut the [BLEEP] up.
(12-24-2023, 07:01 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (12-18-2023, 01:47 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]iHaunting raven I seem to recall you bashing me for critiques I had of Trevor, you're not allowed to change your mind now that's forbidden sir.
You are trying this again, clown? Show me one post of me saying Lawrence was/is elite or a generational talent. You are the clown who was saying it was better to trade #1 overall and more for Deshaun Watson, and you even call me a racist for saying that Watson was not an elite QB, how is your guy doing?
Everyone knows you are are clown so shut the [BLEEP] up.
He’s not worth it. He’s the roommates best friends cousin of another poster
(12-18-2023, 01:06 PM)Protozoa Wrote: [ -> ] (12-18-2023, 11:46 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]That guy is asking who can do better, pretty much implying no one can.
Is Trevor elite? no
Does Trevor suck? no
is he good enough to win a SB? yes but he needs a really good team around him
Is he a special QB? imo no
No I'm asking you to actually prove your point instead of just be sarcastic and making general statements. I never said Lawrence has been playing elite I've said the exact opposite. If you're going to make an argument that Lawrence is the reason we're losing and its on him the you have to back that statement up.
If he is what you claim then proving someone else could do better in this situation should be easy.
Show me exactly where I said this, come on, because on another thread I even said he wasn't the reason.
You are the one getting all offended when someone says the truth, that HE IS NOT AN ELITE QB, and
you act like there is no one who could do a better job here, prove it, actual proof not your nonsense. You act like he is playing like Mahomes when in reality Lawrence is nowhere near the level of Mahomes. Lawrence is not even top 10 atm.
I stopped posting in this thread a bit ago this season, the homer was too strong back then to let reality and facts win the day. Now the body of work is so glaringly bad, its gonna be a hard pill to swallow for the Trevor truthers. Trevor is an average NFL QB with consistency and turnover issues. He is replaceable, the offense looks identical with the backup QB in there, it should be all the evidence you need when CJ steps in and everything looks exactly the same. QB needs to be added to the needs list again, if not for any other reason but to push Trevor to keep improving. This is a really bad look for "The Prince".
(12-24-2023, 07:37 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]I stopped posting in this thread a bit ago this season, the homer was too strong back then to let reality and facts win the day. Now the body of work is so glaringly bad, it’s gonna be a hard pill to swallow for the Trevor truthers. Trevor is an average NFL QB with consistency and turnover issues. He is replaceable, the offense looks identical with the backup QB in there, it should be all the evidence you need when CJ steps in and everything looks exactly the same. QB needs to be added to the needs list again, if not for any other reason but to push Trevor to keep improving. This is a really bad look for "The Prince".
There’s no help on the way, and for those rooting for him to fail, keep this in mind. This franchise literally cannot afford another rebuild. They won’t get a stadium if they do, and that’s always the deathblow that causes a franchise relocation
I’m going to try and not be too alarmist on Trevor and his possible future in the NFL. There’s no denying he’s had a bad season this year but I’m far from giving up on him becoming a game changer. He has all of the tools to be great and has time to adjust his game to how the league has adjusted to him.
Peyton Manning had a terrible rookie year, 2 good years and then year 4 hit and the Colts went 6-10 while Peyton had 26 TDs and 23 interceptions. The Colts didn’t give up on their young QB and I think it would be foolish for the Jags if they did.
As far as Bortles being a better QB, all you need to do is refer to this video for a wonderful trip down memory lane:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=elaue-fQg2...NrIHNpeGVz
(12-24-2023, 07:37 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]I stopped posting in this thread a bit ago this season, the homer was too strong back then to let reality and facts win the day. Now the body of work is so glaringly bad, its gonna be a hard pill to swallow for the Trevor truthers. Trevor is an average NFL QB with consistency and turnover issues. He is replaceable, the offense looks identical with the backup QB in there, it should be all the evidence you need when CJ steps in and everything looks exactly the same. QB needs to be added to the needs list again, if not for any other reason but to push Trevor to keep improving. This is a really bad look for "The Prince".
The fact that you think "everything looks exactly the same" when the Bucs are playing prevent against CJ and having their defenders line up 20 yards off the ball says everything you need to know about your ability to understand what you're watching.
You don't know jack [BLEEP].
(12-24-2023, 08:05 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2023, 07:37 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]I stopped posting in this thread a bit ago this season, the homer was too strong back then to let reality and facts win the day. Now the body of work is so glaringly bad, its gonna be a hard pill to swallow for the Trevor truthers. Trevor is an average NFL QB with consistency and turnover issues. He is replaceable, the offense looks identical with the backup QB in there, it should be all the evidence you need when CJ steps in and everything looks exactly the same. QB needs to be added to the needs list again, if not for any other reason but to push Trevor to keep improving. This is a really bad look for "The Prince".
The fact that you think "everything looks exactly the same" when the Bucs are playing prevent against CJ and having their defenders line up 20 yards off the ball says everything you need to know about your ability to understand what you're watching.
You don't know jack [BLEEP].
There’s no middle ground with these posters.
I get the frustration with Trevor’s regression but to insist CJ is the answer? lol. Big lol
(12-24-2023, 08:05 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2023, 07:37 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]I stopped posting in this thread a bit ago this season, the homer was too strong back then to let reality and facts win the day. Now the body of work is so glaringly bad, its gonna be a hard pill to swallow for the Trevor truthers. Trevor is an average NFL QB with consistency and turnover issues. He is replaceable, the offense looks identical with the backup QB in there, it should be all the evidence you need when CJ steps in and everything looks exactly the same. QB needs to be added to the needs list again, if not for any other reason but to push Trevor to keep improving. This is a really bad look for "The Prince".
The fact that you think "everything looks exactly the same" when the Bucs are playing prevent against CJ and having their defenders line up 20 yards off the ball says everything you need to know about your ability to understand what you're watching.
You don't know jack [BLEEP].
Bortles looks exactly the same the first 48 minutes as he does the last 12.
(12-24-2023, 08:06 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2023, 08:05 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]The fact that you think "everything looks exactly the same" when the Bucs are playing prevent against CJ and having their defenders line up 20 yards off the ball says everything you need to know about your ability to understand what you're watching.
You don't know jack [BLEEP].
There’s no middle ground with these posters.
I get the frustration with Trevor’s regression but to insist CJ is the answer? lol. Big lol
That clown has been praying for Trevor's downfall every single day.
Trevor has lost a little confidence it seems. He has to get his flow back
He’s clearly hurt and not right. This season is lost, we need to invest heavily next season to protect him and open up some running lanes.
We’ll sneak into the playoffs with an early exit.
(12-21-2023, 05:06 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-20-2023, 11:14 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/SmokedByHyatt/status...67468?s=20
Daniel Jones is trash and has always been trash.
Giants got fooled just like the Jags were fooled by Bortles.
I for one was not fooled by the boat #5
Yes, Trevor Lawrence’s first season when he had wide receivers who dropped the ball all the time and an even worse offensive line needs to be taken into consideration when looking at his stats. #16 is a baller
I flat out said I thought bortles would be a bust the day after we drafted him and a ton of people on this board roasted me on that opinion.
Around and around we go.
(12-24-2023, 07:58 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]I’m going to try and not be too alarmist on Trevor and his possible future in the NFL. There’s no denying he’s had a bad season this year but I’m far from giving up on him becoming a game changer. He has all of the tools to be great and has time to adjust his game to how the league has adjusted to him.
Peyton Manning had a terrible rookie year, 2 good years and then year 4 hit and the Colts went 6-10 while Peyton had 26 TDs and 23 interceptions. The Colts didn’t give up on their young QB and I think it would be foolish for the Jags if they did.
As far as Bortles being a better QB, all you need to do is refer to this video for a wonderful trip down memory lane:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=elaue-fQg2...NrIHNpeGVz
Bortles wasn’t terrible except when he was. He had games where he looked like a perennial pro bowler. His problems were horrible inconsistency and at times comically bad accuracy. His worst was really bad and his best was occasionally spectacular.
It’s difficult to compare the two other than a remarkable inconsistency. Trevor’s three years in now. He should have put his terrible, multi-turnover games behind him for the most part but we haven’t. He’s been so bad in that respect, that it’s being discussed in terms of historical perspective. This isn’t just about a putrid OL or receivers running bad routes. This has become a part of the evaluation of the player.
(12-24-2023, 08:09 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2023, 08:06 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]There’s no middle ground with these posters.
I get the frustration with Trevor’s regression but to insist CJ is the answer? lol. Big lol
That clown has been praying for Trevor's downfall every single day.
There's 3 or 4 here who are just waiting every week for Lawrence to do something wrong so they can puff out their little bird chest and crow that their [BLEEP] takes are right. It's weird that people waste their time pretending to be fans around here.
(12-24-2023, 08:16 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2023, 08:09 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]That clown has been praying for Trevor's downfall every single day.
There's 3 or 4 here who are just waiting every week for Lawrence to do something wrong so they can puff out their little bird chest and crow that their [BLEEP] takes are right. It's weird that people waste their time pretending to be fans around here.
Yup, definitely.
Kinda feel bad for them, just a little bit, that their lives are that sad and pathetic honestly.
Enjoy your night Trevor haters. Tell us all how your right and always were.
People criticising Trevor's recent performances, put into perspective the injuries he's dealing with, missing Kirk and Zay, Etienne with 12 yds rushing tonight, D giving up scores on nearly every possession. Yes he's forcing it but at least he's trying to help us win.
Have a good Christmas all. I haven't the energy to listen to the usual Trevor haters gloating nonsense.
I'm converting nced cjb is really tmd reborn