(05-16-2024, 04:02 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (05-16-2024, 02:57 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever he wants? Ummm...no. Pay him what is fair value at this point in his career. Which statistically, is the lower end of the upper third.
Lol
You might wanna sit down when you read his contract then.
I was just about to ask you when somebody else was going to tell him. LOL.
(05-16-2024, 02:57 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever he wants? Ummm...no. Pay him what is fair value at this point in his career. Which statistically, is the lower end of the upper third.
When his contract is done it will be the top paid qb until the next one is paid that is just how it goes and there is numbers out there it being 200million
People said they don't want him to get a big contract. I want them to give him 500 million so people can be mad about someone else's money.
(05-19-2024, 04:30 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]People said they don't want him to get a big contract. I want them to give him 500 million so people can be mad about someone else's money.
That amount better be for 10 years, otherwise you'd have TLaw and 52 undrafted players.
Guessing he gets a deal around $235M ($47M per year on 5 years) on the low end and $254M ($50.8M per year on 5 years) on the high end.
This would put him above some of the older heads that recently got paid, but, behind some of the more consistent and MVP caliber passers.
Cleveland's deal with DeShaun Watson absolutely [BLEEP] up the QB market a lot faster than the NFL had hoped for.
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(05-20-2024, 11:04 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Guessing he gets a deal around $235M ($47M per year on 5 years) on the low end and $254M ($50.8M per year on 5 years) on the high end.
This would put him above some of the older heads that recently got paid, but, behind some of the more consistent and MVP caliber passers.
Cleveland's deal with DeShaun Watson absolutely [BLEEP] up the QB market a lot faster than the NFL had hoped for.
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I'd think he gets more than Goff per year, so I'm guessing you're a tad low on these. Goff's deal is a 4 yr for $212M or $53M per year. If it winds up being under $53M per year as you suggest, I'll assume it's getting re-done in 2 years.
(05-16-2024, 02:57 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever he wants? Ummm...no. Pay him what is fair value at this point in his career. Which statistically, is the lower end of the upper third.
Do you realize Fair Market Value is equivalent with whatever the market is willing to pay? Also, what the heck do you mean by the lower end of the upper third? Which QBs represent the "third" tier QBs? As info, if we don't pay Trevor, I'm most certain several teams would pay at least $50M/year ($200M guaranteed) to acquire him.
(05-20-2024, 01:04 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (05-16-2024, 02:57 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever he wants? Ummm...no. Pay him what is fair value at this point in his career. Which statistically, is the lower end of the upper third.
Do you realize Fair Market Value is equivalent with whatever the market is willing to pay? Also, what the heck do you mean by the lower end of the upper third? Which QBs represent the "third" tier QBs? As info, if we don't pay Trevor, I'm most certain several teams would pay at least $50M/year ($200M guaranteed) to acquire him.
Let's just call that somewhere around the 11th contract for QBs.
That's Jones, Prescott, and Stafford at $160 total. Just ahead of Carr at $150 total.
Behind guys like Hurts, Cousins, and Murray who are in the $230s.
In other words, Lawrence is getting a top 5 contract the likes of Herbert, Burrow, and Josh Allen. Anyone who thinks differently is living in fantasy land.
(05-20-2024, 02:01 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (05-20-2024, 01:04 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Do you realize Fair Market Value is equivalent with whatever the market is willing to pay? Also, what the heck do you mean by the lower end of the upper third? Which QBs represent the "third" tier QBs? As info, if we don't pay Trevor, I'm most certain several teams would pay at least $50M/year ($200M guaranteed) to acquire him.
Let's just call that somewhere around the 11th contract for QBs.
That's Jones, Prescott, and Stafford at $160 total. Just ahead of Carr at $150 total.
Behind guys like Hurts, Cousins, and Murray who are in the $230s.
In other words, Lawrence is getting a top 5 contract the likes of Herbert, Burrow, and Josh Allen. Anyone who thinks differently is living in fantasy land.
This makes sense, however, contracts increase every year along with the NFL cap, so you must account for that type of increase when comparing contracts that were signed 2-5 years ago.
(05-20-2024, 02:16 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (05-20-2024, 02:01 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Let's just call that somewhere around the 11th contract for QBs.
That's Jones, Prescott, and Stafford at $160 total. Just ahead of Carr at $150 total.
Behind guys like Hurts, Cousins, and Murray who are in the $230s.
In other words, Lawrence is getting a top 5 contract the likes of Herbert, Burrow, and Josh Allen. Anyone who thinks differently is living in fantasy land.
This makes sense, however, contracts increase every year along with the NFL cap, so you must account for that type of increase when comparing contracts that were signed 2-5 years ago.
Oh, I agree. I'm just showing that "upper third" contracts are going to be $200 million plus from here out, so it's likely that TLaw gets significantly more than that.
His per year money will probably the highest in the league but I don't think he'll set a record or be close to the top dogs in guaranteed money.
(05-20-2024, 02:22 PM)jg77 Wrote: [ -> ]His per year money will probably the highest in the league but I don't think he'll set a record or be close to the top dogs in guaranteed money.
If that number isn't there then why would he sign? He can just wait a year and someone else will pay that plus more to have him on their team.
(05-20-2024, 02:25 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (05-20-2024, 02:22 PM)jg77 Wrote: [ -> ]His per year money will probably the highest in the league but I don't think he'll set a record or be close to the top dogs in guaranteed money.
If that number isn't there then why would he sign? He can just wait a year and someone else will pay that plus more to have him on their team.
Injury risk. They're probably looking at the Goff contract and will add a bit more per year and a little bit more guaranteed.
And someone else is going to pay him Joe Burrow money? I doubt it.
(05-20-2024, 02:28 PM)jg77 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-20-2024, 02:25 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]If that number isn't there then why would he sign? He can just wait a year and someone else will pay that plus more to have him on their team.
Injury risk. They're probably looking at the Goff contract and will add a bit more per year and a little bit more guaranteed.
And someone else is going to pay him Joe Burrow money? I doubt it.
Then your doubt is a misreading of the free agent and QB markets. If he were to hit the market tomorrow he would be the highest paid player in NFL history by Wednesday.