(11-12-2023, 05:11 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 05:05 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]You act like the mistakes he makes just fall out of the sky. They don’t. They are predictable. They are the same mistakes he’s made since his first day in the league. Can’t read the field before the play, dances in the pocket with bad footwork, over relies on his magic arm and the fastball when things get too hard.
Don’t you get bored typing the same sorry excuses every time TL lays an egg?
LOL
there's the miserable [BLEEP] head right on cue
Never change dumb [BLEEP]
TL will be fine. He had a bad game today.
Heh. Throw a tantrum in the hopes that you distract everyone from the fact that you ignore the gaping sore that is TL’s monotonously predictable mistakes.
For the Lawrence critics, what is your plan? Trade him? Draft his replacement?
Calvin needs to get open
Kirk needs to stop fumbling
Fourtner needs to really step up
The whole offense played horrible today, and the scheme was horrible out coaches
Wasn’t Just Trevor
(11-12-2023, 05:33 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]For the Lawrence critics, what is your plan? Trade him? Draft his replacement?
I dont think its that serious, but if im coaching him im working on the basics. Hes made the easy plays look challenging often and thats worrying.
(09-24-2023, 04:19 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2023, 04:10 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]No line protection for sure. Trevor missed some throws and there was drops. Commentator even mentioned he missed open guys they even showed some replays but maybe hes getting gun shy from the protection idk. I just know Stroud looked much better today.
I mean my goodness … on tank dells two deep balls they were complete busts ! No safety in the middle of the field corner outside leverage so he can just run a skinny post and completely get behind the defense ? Are we serious? And the TD what the heck have we never played a bunch set before ?
Multiple other receivers with no one in the vicinity and 0 pressure on a Backup o line ?
Watch stroud will end up looking like every other rookie QB for most of the rest of the year ….
We just managed to make a game so easy for a rookie it looked like he was playing against Rutgers when he was at Ohio state…
Pathetic .
Heads need to roll for this . At least figure out who wants to man up and do their fricking jobs . What these grown men are getting paid to sticking do .
(11-12-2023, 05:22 PM)Protozoa Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 05:17 PM)Ordar Wrote: [ -> ]If anyone actually thinks Trevor has shown any elite qualities since he was drafted then you’re delusional. He’s made a few nice throws… sometimes… he’s also fumbled more than any other QB. He constantly gets sacked when he doesn’t need to be. His decision making is questionable.
I’m a fan of the TEAM not of Trevor. He’s not been good enough, in a conference of elite QBs
Umm the Chargers game where he came back was elite. What other QB has had the mental toughness to throw 4 picks then lead his team to a win. Watched Manning, Brady and Mahomes fail to do that. He's not playing elite but he has the ability and has shown it. He also played Elite in the Ravens and Cowboys game last year.
Honestly that's the only game. He has had moments. I think its just a combination of qb,line play and the playcalling. I want them to let him sling it all over just more aggressive is it possible with the current oline idk
(11-12-2023, 05:33 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]For the Lawrence critics, what is your plan? Trade him? Draft his replacement?
You
can simultaneously criticize him and still hope he stays. If I were the QB coach, I'd start by just trying to eliminate the silly mistakes and improving the decision making in the pocket. I realize the OL sucks but he seems to be missing open guys way too much. Need to work on ball security. Reducing the small mistakes can add up.
(11-12-2023, 05:33 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]For the Lawrence critics, what is your plan? Trade him? Draft his replacement?
This^ I'll play spoiler for you it's gonna be burn it all down and spend the next decade being awful so they can feel good about how right they were.
I think our weapons outside of ETN are overhyped Ridley defiantly is and our o line is a joke both of which are made even worse by bad play calling. Honestly you can't move on from Lawrence as he's flashed enough to think he can get there. It's the same thing that happened with Tua, and Goeff. Lawrence may not be Manning, Brees, or Brady but nothing says he can't be Big Bin, Stafford, Geoff.
The one good side effect of this is we may not end up having to pay Lawrence and insane contract.
(11-12-2023, 05:40 PM)Protozoa Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 05:33 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]For the Lawrence critics, what is your plan? Trade him? Draft his replacement?
This^ I'll play spoiler for you it's gonna be burn it all down and spend the next decade being awful so they can feel good about how right they were.
I think our weapons outside of ETN are overhyped Ridley defiantly is and our o line is a joke both of which are made even worse by bad play calling. Honestly you can't move on from Lawrence as he's flashed enough to think he can get there. It's the same thing that happened with Tua, and Goeff. Lawrence may not be Manning, Brees, or Brady but nothing says he can't be Big Bin, Stafford, Geoff.
The one good side effect of this is we may not end up having to pay Lawrence and insane contract.
U having thoughts about joining theolinematters in supporting the bengals?
We finished 9 - 8 last year. We're still 6 - 3 after getting completely beatdown today.
Just more overboard reactions. That's the nature of the game. One week you're a hero. The following week you're the villain.
At the end of the day. The only column or stat that matters in this sport, or, really, most sports. It's just the win and loss column guys. When Lawrence is on the wrong side of why this team is losing, like we did for years with quarterbacks like Gabbert, Bortles & Minshew. I'll rip the kid.
Other than that, I'll live.
(11-12-2023, 05:36 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2023, 04:19 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: [ -> ]I mean my goodness … on tank dells two deep balls they were complete busts ! No safety in the middle of the field corner outside leverage so he can just run a skinny post and completely get behind the defense ? Are we serious? And the TD what the heck have we never played a bunch set before ?
Multiple other receivers with no one in the vicinity and 0 pressure on a Backup o line ?
Watch stroud will end up looking like every other rookie QB for most of the rest of the year ….
We just managed to make a game so easy for a rookie it looked like he was playing against Rutgers when he was at Ohio state…
Pathetic .
Heads need to roll for this . At least figure out who wants to man up and do their fricking jobs . What these grown men are getting paid to sticking do .
(11-12-2023, 05:22 PM)Protozoa Wrote: [ -> ]Umm the Chargers game where he came back was elite. What other QB has had the mental toughness to throw 4 picks then lead his team to a win. Watched Manning, Brady and Mahomes fail to do that. He's not playing elite but he has the ability and has shown it. He also played Elite in the Ravens and Cowboys game last year.
Honestly that's the only game. He has had moments. I think its just a combination of qb,line play and the playcalling. I want them to let him sling it all over just more aggressive is it possible with the current oline idk
Well I listed 3 where I feel he played at that same level but yes it's mostly moments at this point. The thing that lends to hope is those moments were sustained though a period of time not just a flash in the pan. Mahomes was the only Qb with more TDs then lawrence from week 9 on last year and Lawrence had less interceptions.
He's not a do it all on his own guy he needs a good supporting cast which is fine but we clearly don't have it right now.
(11-12-2023, 05:40 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 05:33 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]For the Lawrence critics, what is your plan? Trade him? Draft his replacement?
You can simultaneously criticize him and still hope he stays. If I were the QB coach, I'd start by just trying to eliminate the silly mistakes and improving the decision making in the pocket. I realize the OL sucks but he seems to be missing open guys way too much. Need to work on ball security. Reducing the small mistakes can add up.
Right those people aren't the problem the ones taking a victory lap due to failure are.
(11-12-2023, 05:03 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 04:38 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]yeah
Nothing new
Fans that derive more pleasure from [BLEEP] and moaning than rooting for their team are tiresome idiots, but it ain't gonna change
Some people just suck
Do you ever even make good arguments, like ever? Do you not realize all you do is name call when someone presents you information contrary to your feelings about something? In this case it's the Jaguars QB.. You should do better and fix that. It's a bad look.
Looked in the mirror lately? Or you too busy calling people r*tarded or mentally disabled?
(09-24-2023, 04:19 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2023, 04:10 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]No line protection for sure. Trevor missed some throws and there was drops. Commentator even mentioned he missed open guys they even showed some replays but maybe hes getting gun shy from the protection idk. I just know Stroud looked much better today.
I mean my goodness … on tank dells two deep balls they were complete busts ! No safety in the middle of the field corner outside leverage so he can just run a skinny post and completely get behind the defense ? Are we serious? And the TD what the heck have we never played a bunch set before ?
Multiple other receivers with no one in the vicinity and 0 pressure on a Backup o line ?
Watch stroud will end up looking like every other rookie QB for most of the rest of the year ….
We just managed to make a game so easy for a rookie it looked like he was playing against Rutgers when he was at Ohio state…
Pathetic .
Heads need to roll for this . At least figure out who wants to man up and do their fricking jobs . What these grown men are getting paid to sticking do .
(11-12-2023, 05:46 PM)Protozoa Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 05:36 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]Honestly that's the only game. He has had moments. I think its just a combination of qb,line play and the playcalling. I want them to let him sling it all over just more aggressive is it possible with the current oline idk
Well I listed 3 where I feel he played at that same level but yes it's mostly moments at this point. The thing that lends to hope is those moments were sustained though a period of time not just a flash in the pan. Mahomes was the only Qb with more TDs then lawrence from week 9 on last year and Lawrence had less interceptions.
He's not a do it all on his own guy he needs a good supporting cast which is fine but we clearly don't have it right now.
(11-12-2023, 05:40 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]You can simultaneously criticize him and still hope he stays. If I were the QB coach, I'd start by just trying to eliminate the silly mistakes and improving the decision making in the pocket. I realize the OL sucks but he seems to be missing open guys way too much. Need to work on ball security. Reducing the small mistakes can add up.
Right those people aren't the problem the ones taking a victory lap due to failure are.
I think Lawrence can obviously be better. I also believe he does have the talent to win a super bowl.
Copium is a wonderful thing. If Lawrence isn’t a bust, and is a mid tier qb that’s even worse for us.
(11-12-2023, 05:05 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 04:59 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Of course he does, he made a lot of mistakes today. I was primarily referring to the dozen or so posters who are going to turn up just to whine about this performance and how bad he is that remain absent when he's playing well.
You were bashing TL last season when he was playing poorly and you stuck around when he played well and made honest comments even if I personally didn't agree with all of the criticisms. I respect that. (not that it matters what I think - fans are gonna fan regardless and they are all free to do that here)
I just don't understand the mentality of those who seem to thrive on bashing and complaining. Seems like a miserable way to "enjoy" being a football fan.
You act like the mistakes he makes just fall out of the sky. They don’t. They are predictable. They are the same mistakes he’s made since his first day in the league. Can’t read the field before the play, dances in the pocket with bad footwork, over relies on his magic arm and the fastball when things get too hard.
Don’t you get bored typing the same sorry excuses every time TL lays an egg?
I rest my case. This poster hasn’t shared in this thread at all until Trevor has a bad day.
(11-12-2023, 05:15 PM)AlsJagsFan Wrote: [ -> ]I'm a Trevor fan but I don't think he's "great" right now. However I put most of the blame this week on the Oline. I mean I saw several plays the DE just ran right past our guy without being blocked. The kirk fumble fortner was just standing there rather than touching him down.
This is about where I am. He’s good but has a some more edges to polish up and the line has to do better.
(11-12-2023, 05:48 PM)Ordar Wrote: [ -> ]Copium is a wonderful thing. If Lawrence isn’t a bust, and is a mid tier qb that’s even worse for us.
True, if he was horrible he would be replaced. Now the team will be asking themselves if they should offer him a contract. It's going to be a major decision.
(11-12-2023, 05:21 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 05:17 PM)Ordar Wrote: [ -> ]If anyone actually thinks Trevor has shown any elite qualities since he was drafted then you’re delusional. He’s made a few nice throws… sometimes… he’s also fumbled more than any other QB. He constantly gets sacked when he doesn’t need to be. His decision making is questionable.
I’m a fan of the TEAM not of Trevor. He’s not been good enough, in a conference of elite QBs
Issues hes had since college.. but we will pretend my takes were incorrect, 3 years of bad/average play isnt enough i guess.
Its about time he shows up, a few games last year isnt enough.
Ya know I thought the posters here were a bit hard on you but then you post crap like this, rescinding your take back of your takes and acting like you were right all along.
(11-12-2023, 05:48 PM)Ordar Wrote: [ -> ]Copium is a wonderful thing. If Lawrence isn’t a bust, and is a mid tier qb that’s even worse for us.
So what's the answer bigshot? Since your so sure of yourself how do you fix what's the next step.
(11-12-2023, 05:48 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]6-3 people
The hot takes are definitely an overreaction BUT
we are most likely losing the division and the AFC north is the most powerful division in football. We’re gonna have to fight like hell to make a wild card
(11-12-2023, 05:51 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2023, 05:21 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Issues hes had since college.. but we will pretend my takes were incorrect, 3 years of bad/average play isnt enough i guess.
Its about time he shows up, a few games last year isnt enough.
Ya know I thought the posters here were a bit hard on you but then you post crap like this, rescinding your take back of your takes and acting like you were right all along.
When you spend a year spamming the MB with 20 different critiques of the QB and also backpedal from all of them, you'll always have something to be "right" about.