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(12-21-2022, 10:10 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-21-2022, 09:53 AM)scottyg Wrote: [ -> ]We all saw that in spite of the fact the CBJ kept saying we didn't.  But we also saw the above the X's and O's throws on occasion that CBJ refused to acknowledge and called us all nuthuggers for even mentioning.  And now he's trying to re-write history, and you are helping him!
And if you are so tired of the dead horse being beaten, why are you passing out the sticks?

Let's take a stroll through my threads to show that this is a lie.

Props to Trevor for playing better football

(11-13-2022, 05:07 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Regardless of how you feel about him, or how I feel about him overall he's shown some grit and progress the past 2 weeks. The loss today hurts, but seeing the QB play solid football at least gives hope for the future.

Props to Trevor on his big game




He finally put together a full game without mistakes. Very motivating to see it. Also shout out to the defense man they were insane today looking like the '17 jags. Here's to hoping we can get a superstar or two in free agency and have another good draft and start winning around here.


Clip of Trevor being a leader

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(09-18-2021, 05:53 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]I like this a lot. Figured i'd share saw it on Jaguars Reddit.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1438910657311780868

[url=Sketpical/excited (right after 2021 draft)]https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.php?tid=33763

(01-07-2021, 04:17 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]So it seems it's a foregone conclusion that we will be drafting Trevor Lawrence 1st overall and it's extremely exciting anytime you draft a QB in the NFL but ofcourse it's even more exciting knowing you have your choice, and on top of all that he has been called a "generational talent". But I have to say, from what i've seen of him (which has been probably 80-90% of his throws @ Clemson nothing has screamed "generational talent" if anything watching his college plays I feel more like I'm watching a less talented Justin Herbert. So I guess the real point of this thread is this, I want to ask our fans your real opinions of Trevor Lawrence. How much of his game tape have you watched, what do you really feel knowing this is going to potentially be our QB for the foreseable future. Please, try your best to give your most honest take on what you've seen and try to forget what the media has told you.


Personally, I see give/take Justin Herbert (which based off his rookie year, i'd be more than happy with). But I have to say, i'm extremely confused how TLaw is considered generational, whilst Herbert wasn't. I truely feel both extreme excitement right now but it's coupled with a lot of skpeticism. So I guess i'm looking to see what others see in order to calm my own nerves lol.

The absolute worst thread I've made in regards to "trashing Trevor" was comparing his rookie numbers with Gabbert, which were basically indentical and wasn't even meant to be a shot at him.

Spare me.  You can't cherry pick a couple of things and rewrite history.  Like Trevor, I remember everything, and I remember pretty much any time someone tried to point out something positive that Trevor did in defense of your takes, it was "Trevor can do no wrong with you people" and then we were just a bunch of nut-huggers.  So please, once and for all, cut the crap and shut up about it.  Perhaps we can let it go then.

Bros... Ya'll are crazy...

I just went through this entire thread...

I held out hope that Lawrence would get his stuff together. But there was literally 1 month of games that culmilated in London. Let's not pretend that even the Jaguar employed talking heads were not criticizing Trevor Lawrence after London. The entire media was calling out Trevor Lawrence.

If you have been a fan long enough to have to defend Gabbert, Bortles, Foles, and Minshew, you eventually have no concept of what real QB talent even looks like anymore. And then here comes the Prince that was Promised. (Ignoring the Meyer Meltdown) We come into 2022 and he's looking good. But woah, here comes the witching month of October and it results in ROCK BOTTOM for Trevor's career.

If you listen to Jacksonville media, bros, we all were at DefCon 5 to one extent or another about Trevor after Oct. 30th. Admit it. It was bad and we all knew it was bad.

Matter of fact, I went from calling him the first Letter of his first name along with the definition of Legality. I refuse to call him that nick name. Since I started calling Him by his full name, the football Gods have smiled upon us.

But that's not here or there.

The point is that the poster you all are calling out is actually a good dude and has good takes, from what I've seen. That same poster should take the advice that he should just let it go. Whatever is fine. You owned up to it with your signature. All of us that know, now. But guess what, there are so many that need to come to Jesus that are refusing to take their whooping, and so since you are man enough to be here, you're taking their whooping for them. But, trust me... There are receipts for those dudes too.

Anyways, ChrisJagBoy, you're good. Just eat the crow. And eventually the bakery will close down. Probably by free agency. :-)

(I was here for TMD, ChrisJagBoy is no TMD. TMD was the worst kind of human. He never admitted to anything to the point that I don't think reality really mattered to him. I'm sure he's passed away by now. That dude was the first person that personified Post Modernism to me as a semi-young college student. TMD was the personification of "It's not a lie if you believe it to be true." Just the most absolute scum bag you can deal with)

(12-21-2022, 09:31 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-21-2022, 12:38 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Imma break this down for you:

How are we misjudging " He Sucks" and "I see no reason for hope" ??
This are YOUR VERBATIM WORDS on Trevor Lawrence. You backpedaling coward. 

The apology that a dozen posters have repeatedly stated you should make wasn't for your ignorant QB analysis but for your repeated insults to the fanbase and message board. 

If you are trying to compare critique of an undrafted back up DB who wouldn't make the PS on 18 teams in this league to you pissing all over Trevor Lawrence, God help you son. You are dumber than I thought. And I thought you were really stupid. 

Please go read the [BLEEP] rules of this message board and quit acting like a butthurt little [BLEEP] because you don't  know and understand them. 

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Nah.

You were just to impatient to let a young QB acclimate to a real NFL offense. Others were not - because we've seen this before and we get it.

I never said "he sucks" or "I see no reason for hope (for trevor) I've said his play sucks, at times. And I said I saw VERY LITTLE REASON FOR HOPE THIS SEASON <-- theres something I can apologise for being wrong about! If only you didn't take it out of context!

I will apologise for calling people Nut Huggers, but again you're acting as if I have insulted people on multiple occasions which I haven't, and my analysis on Trevor Lawrence wasn't inaccurate in the slightest. He got better, he had the issues I pointed out and anybody denying that isn't watching him play. 

I'm not comparing Lawrence to Herndon, I'm pointing out that WE ALL POINT OUT BAD PLAYS FROM ALL PLAYERS ON THE TEAM AND IT'S ALL FINE AND DANDY, UNTIL SOMEBODY MENTIONS LAWRENCE THEN IT'S TREATED LIKE BLASPHEMY. 

I've read the rules, and 99% of your warnings against me are for post that break no such rule, you seem to be the only one butt hurt here because when you're proven wrong you just delete my posts or throw a warning at me. You're a clown. 

Point one: Blatant lie  - and I've already posted the receipts on you verbatim saying these things multiple times. 

point 2 : You did insult people many times in the game threads and other threads.   Including insulting references to "this fan base" and "this MB" 
Please stop lying. You know you did it. 

point 3: whatever 

point 4: 100% untrue - I am steadfast and cautious about warnings being 100% legit - especially if I have had a beef with the member in violation. You either don't understand the rules, or you are lying again. 

Lastly:
I'm done. I won't hound you anymore. 
You go ahead and try to paint it like you never crapped all over this forum with horrible takes and insults. 
Fine. 
I know you did. You know you did. 


One friendly warning: Do not continue to slander me with lies about warnings. That is 100% untrue and I won't tolerate the slander. You've been granted a return you didn't deserve and you are insulting those who allowed you back with lies.
 Not cool. Not OK. 

That's it. I'll wash my hands of it unless you try me.

I been trying to let it go, someone always brings it up but i'm done arguing. I've made my peace on the matter. If people can't comprehend it, it's not my fault anymore.

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(12-21-2022, 10:30 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-21-2022, 09:31 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]I never said "he sucks" or "I see no reason for hope (for trevor) I've said his play sucks, at times. And I said I saw VERY LITTLE REASON FOR HOPE THIS SEASON <-- theres something I can apologise for being wrong about! If only you didn't take it out of context!

I will apologise for calling people Nut Huggers, but again you're acting as if I have insulted people on multiple occasions which I haven't, and my analysis on Trevor Lawrence wasn't inaccurate in the slightest. He got better, he had the issues I pointed out and anybody denying that isn't watching him play. 

I'm not comparing Lawrence to Herndon, I'm pointing out that WE ALL POINT OUT BAD PLAYS FROM ALL PLAYERS ON THE TEAM AND IT'S ALL FINE AND DANDY, UNTIL SOMEBODY MENTIONS LAWRENCE THEN IT'S TREATED LIKE BLASPHEMY. 

I've read the rules, and 99% of your warnings against me are for post that break no such rule, you seem to be the only one butt hurt here because when you're proven wrong you just delete my posts or throw a warning at me. You're a clown. 

Point one: Blatant lie  - and I've already posted the receipts on you verbatim saying these things multiple times. 

point 2 : You did insult people many times in the game threads and other threads.   Including insulting references to "this fan base" and "this MB" 
Please stop lying. You know you did it. 

point 3: whatever 

point 4: 100% untrue - I am steadfast and cautious about warnings being 100% legit - especially if I have had a beef with the member in violation. You either don't understand the rules, or you are lying again. 

Lastly:
I'm done. I won't hound you anymore. 
You go ahead and try to paint it like you never crapped all over this forum with horrible takes and insults. 
Fine. 
I know you did. You know you did. 


One friendly warning: Do not continue to slander me with lies about warnings. That is 100% untrue and I won't tolerate the slander. You've been granted a return you didn't deserve and you are insulting those who allowed you back with lies.
 Not cool. Not OK. 

That's it. I'll wash my hands of it unless you try me.

Whatever dude, I'm not gonna agree with any of this because it's flat out wrong but if you don't wanna talk about it, we don't have to. Been trying not too for multiple months. As far as the Warnings go you realise I can view the post and the warning.. wont go into it but almost all of them are subjective at best but we shall just let it rest there.

(12-21-2022, 10:34 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]I been trying to let it go, someone always brings it up but i'm done arguing. I've made my peace on the matter. If people can't comprehend it, it's not my fault anymore.

I think you should just keep eating it.  Probably around Free Agency, you'll be forgiven or forgotten, or the punishment has run it's course.

You changed your signature to point to your criticism.  Some may want more, but you gave your pound of flesh.  Just expect it to continue on for a while.

Eventually it'll subside.  As a 20 year old, I was in a fraternity.  You get [BLEEP] on.  And eventually the [BLEEP] goes down to someone else.  But everyone has that moment.  Welcome to your moment.  Take it and move on.

Or...  As I have learned.  Don't ever be to hot or cold.  But that's a learning experience that comes with years of life.

Seriously though. Can you just leave him alone so we can stop talking about him? I come here to read discussion about the Jaguars, not chrisjagsboy. Just give him his own thread in Fargins fly bye and lets be done with it! "You harassed the board for a year saying trevor sucked"
"No I didn't I just posted his weaknesses". Round and round we go, it's exhausting and derailing almost every thread. We get it! From both sides. I'm tired of reading about it.

(12-21-2022, 11:58 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously though. Can you just leave him alone so we can stop talking about him? I come here to read discussion about the Jaguars, not chrisjagsboy. Just give him his own thread in Fargins fly bye and lets be done with it! "You harassed the board for a year saying trevor sucked"
"No I didn't I just posted his weaknesses". Round and round we go, it's exhausting and derailing almost every thread. We get it! From both sides. I'm tired of reading about it.

Agreed, i'd also like to just discuss the team and what's going on with them currently.

I 100% believed that Trevor would never manage to do what he has done the last several weeks. Those backbreaking interceptions on potential game winning drives had eroded all my hope for him.

I was totally wrong. This guy is THE guy and I am stoked.

(12-21-2022, 10:30 AM)NYC4jag Wrote: [ -> ]Lastly:
I'm done. I won't hound you anymore. 
You go ahead and try to paint it like you never crapped all over this forum with horrible takes and insults. 
Fine. 
I know you did. You know you did. 

We all know he did 100%.

(12-21-2022, 12:58 PM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ]I 100% believed that Trevor would never manage to do what he has done the last several weeks.  Those backbreaking interceptions on potential game winning drives had eroded all my hope for him.

I was totally wrong.  This guy is THE guy and I am stoked.

every since the COlts game last year i had hope, he kept the team together through all the Crap. and took it on the chin like a pro. Lawrence is mature and then we started the games and he looked good but not great, and bad turnovers at bad times. i kept saying to my brother this is like his rookie, you will see a big change around week 9-11 if he is what they say he is capable of. i'm glad he turned the corner and i am glad we are playing meaningful football in Dec. never would i have thought of us as potential AFC South Champs this year. it is crazy.

great job Dougie P.

(12-21-2022, 09:56 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly thank you.

Some people want to say "yeah he threw 12 tds 17 ints last year but I ALWAYS KNEW HE'D BE ELITE" yeah but you didn't because most of the time guys who struggle, continue to struggle. Lawrence got better, and that's awesome but let's not pretend he was a for sure thing

So then only Marino, Big Ben, Luck and Watson were worth anything?


You should give up on EVERY QB who struggles in their early years?!?


What would you have done with Peyton Manning, who led the league with 28 INTs his rookie year?!?

There's another QB who struggled mightily in his first two years.  Had a 20-36 TD-INT ratio and couldn't reach 60% completion rate wither of his first two years.  Looking at those numbers, what would you have concluded about this guy?

There's another QB who also had a negative TD-INT ratio and <60% completion rate his first two years, and won 3 games over that time.  Even worse for him, he had 3 years of professional experience before joining his first NFL team.

Even now, there's yet another guy who couldn't hit a 60% completion rate in either of his first two seasons, had a negative TD-INT ratio his first year and threw even fewer TDs than Trevor Lawrence his first year.

Under your analysis, none of those guys would have been worth the time to develop.

Congrats.  You would have trashed Peyton Manning Troy Aikman, Steve Young, and Josh Allen.

This epitomizes the problem with your takes.  You said "because most of the time guys who struggle, continue to struggle."  What you left OUT of th equation is that most of the guys who thrive struggle at the beginning.

Of the successful NFL QBs, the overwhelming majority struggled early in their careers, whether they got lots of early playing time like Trevor Lawrence, or if their coaches didn't think they were ready early and didn't play them much if at all during their rookie years like Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, or many others.  Many of us tried desperately to get you to see that. You persisted in your willful ignorance and now you are catching grief on the board.

You attempted (but failed) to put things an a complete and accurate historical context.

(12-21-2022, 01:32 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-21-2022, 12:58 PM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ]I 100% believed that Trevor would never manage to do what he has done the last several weeks.  Those backbreaking interceptions on potential game winning drives had eroded all my hope for him.

I was totally wrong.  This guy is THE guy and I am stoked.

Cutest gif, evah.

Franchise. Quarterback. Close thread.

I put in my 2 cents.

Go Jaguars!

(12-21-2022, 02:55 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/ringer/status/160563...I7L_ok3nyQ

Wow, that's a hell of a great article.  I am so pumped after reading that.

He’s everything he should have been last year.

Up to 7. I'd put him at 6 right now over Tua but there isn't a QB in the league I'd trade him for. Allen, Mahomes, none of them.

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-we...dy-tumbles