(04-10-2024, 11:32 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (04-10-2024, 11:25 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/...H2oiQ&s=19
Over the last few years, I've literally grown to hate the GOP just as much as the Dems..
Trash sub-humans..
We did provoke this war. Gotta finish it I guess.
Our stupid [BLEEP] government. Coup in 2014. US. CIA bases in Ukraine on the Russian border. US. Putting weapons in Ukraine that can reach Russia.. US. this is putting IRBMs in Turkey all over again. Except now we have a bone fide [BLEEP] in office instead of an actual man like JFK
The Ukraine and Russia actually worked out a deal long ago but America said nope, don't do it, we want you in NATO just to piss in Putins cereal. We have morons at the helm.
(04-10-2024, 12:47 PM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ] (04-10-2024, 11:32 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Over the last few years, I've literally grown to hate the GOP just as much as the Dems..
Trash sub-humans..
We did provoke this war. Gotta finish it I guess.
Our stupid [BLEEP] government. Coup in 2014. US. CIA bases in Ukraine on the Russian border. US. Putting weapons in Ukraine that can reach Russia.. US. this is putting IRBMs in Turkey all over again. Except now we have a bone fide [BLEEP] in office instead of an actual man like JFK
The Ukraine and Russia actually worked out a deal long ago but America said nope, don't do it, we want you in NATO just to piss in Putins cereal. We have morons at the helm.
Most of that is not true.
But if we did put weapons and bases in Ukraine after 1992 but before 2014, we would only have done so with permission from Ukraine's government, which at that time was sovereign, and was independent from Russia. Meaning Russia should have minded their own business about it.
(04-10-2024, 01:03 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-10-2024, 12:47 PM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ]We did provoke this war. Gotta finish it I guess.
Our stupid [BLEEP] government. Coup in 2014. US. CIA bases in Ukraine on the Russian border. US. Putting weapons in Ukraine that can reach Russia.. US. this is putting IRBMs in Turkey all over again. Except now we have a bone fide [BLEEP] in office instead of an actual man like JFK
The Ukraine and Russia actually worked out a deal long ago but America said nope, don't do it, we want you in NATO just to piss in Putins cereal. We have morons at the helm.
Most of that is not true.
But if we did put weapons and bases in Ukraine after 1992 but before 2014, we would only have done so with permission from Ukraine's government, which at that time was sovereign, and was independent from Russia. Meaning Russia should have minded their own business about it.
Dude.. all of that is true.
https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/02/26/n...a-support/
When the soviet union dissolved there was an agreement that no former soviet states would join NATO. America said nah bro that was like 30 years ago, doesn't count.
The more you study the cold war.. the more we look like [BLEEP]. We were the aggressor in almost every single incident
(04-10-2024, 01:15 PM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ] (04-10-2024, 01:03 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Most of that is not true.
But if we did put weapons and bases in Ukraine after 1992 but before 2014, we would only have done so with permission from Ukraine's government, which at that time was sovereign, and was independent from Russia. Meaning Russia should have minded their own business about it.
Dude.. all of that is true.
https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/02/26/n...a-support/
When the soviet union dissolved there was an agreement that no former soviet states would join NATO. America said nah bro that was like 30 years ago, doesn't count.
The more you study the cold war.. the more we look like [BLEEP]. We were the aggressor in almost every single incident
I'm sure the part about spy bases and advisors is true, but we did not give the ukrainians lethal aid until much later.
https://twitter.com/LeadingReport/status...ppAJQ&s=19
"He's committed to helping Trump in any and every way," said Texas businessman Roy Bailey, who attended the retreat.
"We are going to follow his lead, and we're excited to do everything we can to get Trump elected."
(04-10-2024, 01:03 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-10-2024, 12:47 PM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ]We did provoke this war. Gotta finish it I guess.
Our stupid [BLEEP] government. Coup in 2014. US. CIA bases in Ukraine on the Russian border. US. Putting weapons in Ukraine that can reach Russia.. US. this is putting IRBMs in Turkey all over again. Except now we have a bone fide [BLEEP] in office instead of an actual man like JFK
The Ukraine and Russia actually worked out a deal long ago but America said nope, don't do it, we want you in NATO just to piss in Putins cereal. We have morons at the helm.
Most of that is not true.
But if we did put weapons and bases in Ukraine after 1992 but before 2014, we would only have done so with permission from Ukraine's government, which at that time was sovereign, and was independent from Russia. Meaning Russia should have minded their own business about it.
In all fairness to the Russians, that wasn't our approach to Cuba (and rightly so). Putting offensive weapons within striking distance of a perceived "enemy" invites reaction, and that works both ways.
(04-11-2024, 07:08 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ] (04-10-2024, 01:03 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Most of that is not true.
But if we did put weapons and bases in Ukraine after 1992 but before 2014, we would only have done so with permission from Ukraine's government, which at that time was sovereign, and was independent from Russia. Meaning Russia should have minded their own business about it.
In all fairness to the Russians, that wasn't our approach to Cuba (and rightly so). Putting offensive weapons within striking distance of a perceived "enemy" invites reaction, and that works both ways.
We didn't start giving Ukraine offensive weapons until Biden was President. Russia started their invasion in 2014.
(04-11-2024, 07:00 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (04-10-2024, 02:21 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/LeadingReport/status...ppAJQ&s=19
"He's committed to helping Trump in any and every way," said Texas businessman Roy Bailey, who attended the retreat.
"We are going to follow his lead, and we're excited to do everything we can to get Trump elected."
GOP Source Says DeSantis TORCHES Trump in Private: 'Moron' (mediaite.com)
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis routinely torches former President Donald Trump in private, calling him a “moron who has no business running for president” according to a former DeSantis staffer.
Maybe this anonymous former staffer should have focused more on not running the worst campaign in recent history.
A debate with Gavin Newsome? Lol.
(04-11-2024, 07:22 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-11-2024, 07:08 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]In all fairness to the Russians, that wasn't our approach to Cuba (and rightly so). Putting offensive weapons within striking distance of a perceived "enemy" invites reaction, and that works both ways.
We didn't start giving Ukraine offensive weapons until Biden was President. Russia started their invasion in 2014.
The Presidency is irrelevant to my point.
(04-11-2024, 07:22 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-11-2024, 07:08 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]In all fairness to the Russians, that wasn't our approach to Cuba (and rightly so). Putting offensive weapons within striking distance of a perceived "enemy" invites reaction, and that works both ways.
We didn't start giving Ukraine offensive weapons until Biden was President. Russia started their invasion in 2014.
You mean because of the US-led coup?
https://www.cc.com/video/8067fc/the-colb...ideon-rose
(04-11-2024, 07:56 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-11-2024, 07:00 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]GOP Source Says DeSantis TORCHES Trump in Private: 'Moron' (mediaite.com)
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis routinely torches former President Donald Trump in private, calling him a “moron who has no business running for president” according to a former DeSantis staffer.
Maybe this anonymous former staffer should have focused more on not running the worst campaign in recent history.
A debate with Gavin Newsome? Lol.
All the RINOs are mad lolol
(04-11-2024, 07:08 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ] (04-10-2024, 01:03 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Most of that is not true.
But if we did put weapons and bases in Ukraine after 1992 but before 2014, we would only have done so with permission from Ukraine's government, which at that time was sovereign, and was independent from Russia. Meaning Russia should have minded their own business about it.
In all fairness to the Russians, that wasn't our approach to Cuba (and rightly so). Putting offensive weapons within striking distance of a perceived "enemy" invites reaction, and that works both ways.
Most Americans don't realize them putting missiles in Cuba was in response to us putting IRBMs in Turkey on the border wiiiiiiith? RUSSIA.
We are the bad guys. We were then, we are now. It sucks but it's true
(04-11-2024, 08:13 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ] (04-11-2024, 07:08 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]In all fairness to the Russians, that wasn't our approach to Cuba (and rightly so). Putting offensive weapons within striking distance of a perceived "enemy" invites reaction, and that works both ways.
Most Americans don't realize them putting missiles in Cuba was in response to us putting IRBMs in Turkey on the border wiiiiiiith? RUSSIA.
We are the bad guys. We were then, we are now. It sucks but it's true
I think that's true, at least with the younger generation. The Cuban Missile Crisis and the entire Cold War are just footnotes in history now. Is it even studied in the high school anymore?
(04-11-2024, 08:32 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ] (04-11-2024, 08:13 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ]Most Americans don't realize them putting missiles in Cuba was in response to us putting IRBMs in Turkey on the border wiiiiiiith? RUSSIA.
We are the bad guys. We were then, we are now. It sucks but it's true
I think that's true, at least with the younger generation. The Cuban Missile Crisis and the entire Cold War are just footnotes in history now. Is it even studied in the high school anymore?
And what prompted the placing of the missiles in Turkey?
(04-11-2024, 08:13 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ] (04-11-2024, 07:08 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]In all fairness to the Russians, that wasn't our approach to Cuba (and rightly so). Putting offensive weapons within striking distance of a perceived "enemy" invites reaction, and that works both ways.
Most Americans don't realize them putting missiles in Cuba was in response to us putting IRBMs in Turkey on the border wiiiiiiith? RUSSIA.
We are the bad guys. We were then, we are now. It sucks but it's true
Spent a lot of time in countries behind the Iron Curtain have we? [BLEEP] moron.
(04-11-2024, 09:01 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (04-11-2024, 08:32 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]I think that's true, at least with the younger generation. The Cuban Missile Crisis and the entire Cold War are just footnotes in history now. Is it even studied in the high school anymore?
And what prompted the placing of the missiles in Turkey?
(04-11-2024, 08:13 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ]Most Americans don't realize them putting missiles in Cuba was in response to us putting IRBMs in Turkey on the border wiiiiiiith? RUSSIA.
We are the bad guys. We were then, we are now. It sucks but it's true
Spent a lot of time in countries behind the Iron Curtain have we? [BLEEP] moron.
So in terms of international stuff you think the US was righteous? I don't give a [BLEEP] about the plight of people behind the iron curtain, why would I?
Explain how the US was righteous in any way.
Oh and what ended the Cuban Missile Crisis was us taking out the IRBMs. What a success story!
This fear of communism didn't amount to anything. In fact, it hurt us more. Look at our country now. How many college kids are Marxists?
(04-11-2024, 09:07 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ] (04-11-2024, 09:01 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]And what prompted the placing of the missiles in Turkey?
Spent a lot of time in countries behind the Iron Curtain have we? [BLEEP] moron.
So in terms of international stuff you think the US was righteous? I don't give a [BLEEP] about the plight of people behind the iron curtain, why would I?
Explain how the US was righteous in any way.
Oh and what ended the Cuban Missile Crisis was us taking out the IRBMs. What a success story!
This fear of communism didn't amount to anything. In fact, it hurt us more. Look at our country now. How many college kids are Marxists?
Yeah, I'm not going to debate the merits of the US vs the USSR during the Cold War with you, it's clear you're a moron. There is no USSR today and, and based on this ridiculous post, you likely weren't alive when it was in existence.
(04-11-2024, 08:09 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ] (04-11-2024, 07:22 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]We didn't start giving Ukraine offensive weapons until Biden was President. Russia started their invasion in 2014.
The Presidency is irrelevant to my point.
I'm just using it as a timeframe. I'm not sure the day we first started sending them stuff, but Biden was President that day, and it's super relevant to your "point" because it was fully 6 maybe 7 years after they first got invaded.