Governor DeSantis better step it up. He hasn’t even got in the race yet though.
(04-13-2023, 07:14 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Who's the most well connected to Vanguard and Black Rock?
Cornyn is lining up to steer the Gravy Train.
(04-14-2023, 12:03 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (04-13-2023, 11:20 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Trump has zero chance of winning this thing. Sorry.
No one has a chance in the primary against him. DeSantis is already losing any support he had even in FL. In the general election it will depend if the people let another steal happen or not.
I think you are underestimating the gains Trump made in 2020 in all categories over 2016. He is improving on those already in polls. MSM is unable to brainwash more and more people each day. Twitter is free and people are seeing both sides and realizing the crazy liberals don't out number everyone. All the crap going on is moving more and more people to Trump. As they listen to his actual words, instead of relying on the media to tell them what he said, they are realizing they want what he is saying.
If Kennedy opens the eyes for the remaining democrats, VP on Trump ticket may set a record if the cheating is kept out.
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You're dreaming, bro. Who on this board has changed their opinion on Trump since the last election. People who have their minds made up about him (and they are out there), are doubling down on their cognitive dissonance. At the very best, you are hoping for Trump fatigue. Even then, the establishment HATES Trump and managed to manufacture hundreds of thousands of votes in the last election. You think they can't do it again? Sure, it will take a couple weeks after the election is over, but they'll get there. The moderates have been conditioned to accept these types of shenanigans, so who's going to complain about it with a big enough voice to change anything?
I've been pushed to the point that I'm considering it. The Pubs are awful but the Dems are far worse. Plus the EPubs hate Trump too, so he's got that going for him. He's still far too moderate for me, but I'd take a firm center right position to reel some of the leftist horror back in.
(04-13-2023, 11:59 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (04-13-2023, 11:51 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Not just orange man bad... but a small segment of orange man bad voters.
I honestly think it's the 'All-in' effect for some of them.. Meaning, they were all in for Biden against Trump, until Biden began to [BLEEP] the bed, numerous times and on a continuous loop. So instead of manning up and recognizing that their vote [BLEEP] this country, almost into oblivion, they continue to prop their bad decisions up in the name of contrarianism..
Happily going down with the ship!
Hey, we're going 1st class on the Titanic. Enjoy the spectacular views of those white floating mountains.
It's more like the scene where the crew members start shooting the passengers who dare to think they have the right to try and save themselves.
(04-14-2023, 10:59 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ] (04-13-2023, 11:59 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]I honestly think it's the 'All-in' effect for some of them.. Meaning, they were all in for Biden against Trump, until Biden began to [BLEEP] the bed, numerous times and on a continuous loop. So instead of manning up and recognizing that their vote [BLEEP] this country, almost into oblivion, they continue to prop their bad decisions up in the name of contrarianism..
Happily going down with the ship!
Hey, we're going 1st class on the Titanic. Enjoy the spectacular views of those white floating mountains.
WingerDinger is all in on the Trump ship. Perhaps both ships are sinking.
For the record, I am not at all "in" for Biden. I'll happily vote for a better option in 2024. DeSantis would probably be a better option, unless there's something we don't know about him, maybe it turns out he wants to start a war or something. But if it's a rematch of 2020, I'd have to vote Biden again. The debacles we have seen so far in Biden's presidency will not be in any history book that my kids or grandkids read. But Jan 6 will be in those history books. So will Trump's attempt to make our foreign policy partisan. So, sorry not sorry.
(04-14-2023, 12:04 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-14-2023, 10:59 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]Hey, we're going 1st class on the Titanic. Enjoy the spectacular views of those white floating mountains.
WingerDinger is all in on the Trump ship. Perhaps both ships are sinking.
For the record, I am not at all "in" for Biden. I'll happily vote for a better option in 2024. DeSantis would probably be a better option, unless there's something we don't know about him, maybe it turns out he wants to start a war or something. But if it's a rematch of 2020, I'd have to vote Biden again. The debacles we have seen so far in his presidency will not be in any history book that my kids or grandkids read. But Jan 6 will be in those history books. So, sorry not sorry.
DeSantis is currently racing for runner-up, and by a large margin.
And you're worried about missing debacles that will be omitted from history books, yet you'll vote for the party/man who will happily omit them.
Always a new low for you.. Limbo Champ!
(04-14-2023, 08:18 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (04-14-2023, 12:03 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]No one has a chance in the primary against him. DeSantis is already losing any support he had even in FL. In the general election it will depend if the people let another steal happen or not.
I think you are underestimating the gains Trump made in 2020 in all categories over 2016. He is improving on those already in polls. MSM is unable to brainwash more and more people each day. Twitter is free and people are seeing both sides and realizing the crazy liberals don't out number everyone. All the crap going on is moving more and more people to Trump. As they listen to his actual words, instead of relying on the media to tell them what he said, they are realizing they want what he is saying.
If Kennedy opens the eyes for the remaining democrats, VP on Trump ticket may set a record if the cheating is kept out.
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You're dreaming, bro. Who on this board has changed their opinion on Trump since the last election. People who have their minds made up about him (and they are out there), are doubling down on their cognitive dissonance. At the very best, you are hoping for Trump fatigue. Even then, the establishment HATES Trump and managed to manufacture hundreds of thousands of votes in the last election. You think they can't do it again? Sure, it will take a couple weeks after the election is over, but they'll get there. The moderates have been conditioned to accept these types of shenanigans, so who's going to complain about it with a big enough voice to change anything?
Fox News is about to lose a $1.6 Billion dollar lawsuit over that claim.
If they can provide any kind of evidence for it during the next month or two, they might win that lawsuit, and not have to pay. But still nothing.
So why are you still saying this? You want to get sued as well?
(04-14-2023, 12:10 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (04-14-2023, 12:04 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]WingerDinger is all in on the Trump ship. Perhaps both ships are sinking.
For the record, I am not at all "in" for Biden. I'll happily vote for a better option in 2024. DeSantis would probably be a better option, unless there's something we don't know about him, maybe it turns out he wants to start a war or something. But if it's a rematch of 2020, I'd have to vote Biden again. The debacles we have seen so far in his presidency will not be in any history book that my kids or grandkids read. But Jan 6 will be in those history books. So, sorry not sorry.
DeSantis is currently racing for runner-up, and by a large margin.
And you're worried about missing debacles that will be omitted from history books, yet you'll vote for the party/man who will happily omit them.
Always a new low for you.. Limbo Champ!
What has Biden done, that is bad, and that will be worth telling kids about 20 years from now?
(04-14-2023, 12:13 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-14-2023, 08:18 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]You're dreaming, bro. Who on this board has changed their opinion on Trump since the last election. People who have their minds made up about him (and they are out there), are doubling down on their cognitive dissonance. At the very best, you are hoping for Trump fatigue. Even then, the establishment HATES Trump and managed to manufacture hundreds of thousands of votes in the last election. You think they can't do it again? Sure, it will take a couple weeks after the election is over, but they'll get there. The moderates have been conditioned to accept these types of shenanigans, so who's going to complain about it with a big enough voice to change anything?
Fox News is about to lose a $1.6 Billion dollar lawsuit over that claim.
If they can provide any kind of evidence for it during the next month or two, they might win that lawsuit, and not have to pay. But still nothing.
So why are you still saying this? You want to get sued as well?
(04-14-2023, 12:10 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]DeSantis is currently racing for runner-up, and by a large margin.
And you're worried about missing debacles that will be omitted from history books, yet you'll vote for the party/man who will happily omit them.
Always a new low for you.. Limbo Champ!
What has Biden done, that is bad, and that will be worth telling kids about 20 years from now?
How much bandwidth ya got?
(04-14-2023, 12:15 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (04-14-2023, 12:13 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Fox News is about to lose a $1.6 Billion dollar lawsuit over that claim.
If they can provide any kind of evidence for it during the next month or two, they might win that lawsuit, and not have to pay. But still nothing.
So why are you still saying this? You want to get sued as well?
What has Biden done, that is bad, and that will be worth telling kids about 20 years from now?
How much bandwidth ya got?
If it gets too long I'll take a restroom break and come back.
(04-14-2023, 12:04 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-14-2023, 10:59 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]Hey, we're going 1st class on the Titanic. Enjoy the spectacular views of those white floating mountains.
WingerDinger is all in on the Trump ship. Perhaps both ships are sinking.
For the record, I am not at all "in" for Biden. I'll happily vote for a better option in 2024. DeSantis would probably be a better option, unless there's something we don't know about him, maybe it turns out he wants to start a war or something. But if it's a rematch of 2020, I'd have to vote Biden again. The debacles we have seen so far in Biden's presidency will not be in any history book that my kids or grandkids read. But Jan 6 will be in those history books. So will Trump's attempt to make our foreign policy partisan. So, sorry not sorry.
Lol, of course they won't. That's not because they didn't happen but because the left controls the narrative.
(04-14-2023, 12:25 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (04-14-2023, 12:04 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]WingerDinger is all in on the Trump ship. Perhaps both ships are sinking.
For the record, I am not at all "in" for Biden. I'll happily vote for a better option in 2024. DeSantis would probably be a better option, unless there's something we don't know about him, maybe it turns out he wants to start a war or something. But if it's a rematch of 2020, I'd have to vote Biden again. The debacles we have seen so far in Biden's presidency will not be in any history book that my kids or grandkids read. But Jan 6 will be in those history books. So will Trump's attempt to make our foreign policy partisan. So, sorry not sorry.
Lol, of course they won't. That's not because they didn't happen but because the left controls the narrative.
They don't control your narrative.
What has Biden done that would merit you telling your grandkids about?
(04-14-2023, 12:35 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (04-14-2023, 12:25 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Lol, of course they won't. That's not because they didn't happen but because the left controls the narrative.
They don't control your narrative.
What has Biden done that would merit you telling your grandkids about?
The one that will last the longest in my family is his abandonment of Afghanistan. The anger that my close veteran relatives feel over the mangling of our withdrawal is something that will not fade. It's a shame in our generation on par with the shame over the fall of Saigon and the images are just as imprinted in our memories as those helicopters over the embassy are to my father's generation. You probably don't comprehend that feeling in your bubble.
(04-14-2023, 12:54 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (04-14-2023, 12:35 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]They don't control your narrative.
What has Biden done that would merit you telling your grandkids about?
The one that will last the longest in my family is his abandonment of Afghanistan. The anger that my close veteran relatives feel over the mangling of our withdrawal is something that will not fade. It's a shame in our generation on par with the shame over the fall of Saigon and the images are just as imprinted in our memories as those helicopters over the embassy are to my father's generation. You probably don't comprehend that feeling in your bubble.
No, I also felt some kind of way about our Afghan "allies" yielding to the Taliban so quickly, not giving us enough time for an orderly exit. I feel really bad that a lot of those guys thought we would take them with us, and then we didn't. Those two things go together, of course. When it became clear that we weren't going to process their visas in time, they kinda stopped defending the presidential palace and airport in response. And if we had processed more of their visas more expeditiously, then more of them would have been here when we were wrapping up, not there, and they also wouldn't have provided gate security during our evacuation.
I don't really blame Biden for that, sorry.
It was up to the Afghans to form a mass of people who could fight the Taliban and who wished to remain in Afghanistan for that fight for the rest of their lives. We had a mass of Afghans like that when we first got there. But at some point before Bush left office, that was gone.
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