(07-23-2024, 08:11 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2024, 08:02 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Harris is a worse candidate than Biden was, and the drama of them getting rid of her next month will override any aingst about Trump. They have no.candidate, only pretenders to the crown.
To you she is worse than Biden, but you have to put yourself in the mind of the average voter. On the one hand, you see a snarling old man who anger-tweets all night, has ended Roe v. Wade, and been sued for abuse by multiple women. On the other hand, here is this smiling, rather pleasant, much younger, woman who will try to restore a woman's right to choose.
Women's vote. Check.
Black vote. Check.
Pro-choice vote. Check.
Much nicer seeming person. Check.
Anyone voting for any candidate for these reasons (or anything similar) and not on policies really should stay home. Liberal, conservative, whatever.
(07-23-2024, 11:25 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2024, 08:11 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]To you she is worse than Biden, but you have to put yourself in the mind of the average voter. On the one hand, you see a snarling old man who anger-tweets all night, has ended Roe v. Wade, and been sued for abuse by multiple women. On the other hand, here is this smiling, rather pleasant, much younger, woman who will try to restore a woman's right to choose.
Women's vote. Check.
Black vote. Check.
Pro-choice vote. Check.
Much nicer seeming person. Check.
Anyone voting for any candidate for these reasons (or anything similar) and not on policies really should stay home. Liberal, conservative, whatever.
That's the reality though. The average voter will not look beyond the surface level. Apart of that makes me feel like this whole [BLEEP] is rigged.
Think about all the money involved, lobbying involved, high end investments at risk.
Is the Plutocracy really going to leave their fortune and power up to a game of chance every four years with the average billy bob on the right or self hating white man, anti family woman on the left?
The cynic in me can't help but to think that's the case.
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Kamala Harris has shown her colors over the years and today we can add antisemitism.
(07-24-2024, 08:09 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Kamala Harris has shown her colors over the years and today we can add antisemitism.
For not listening to Netanyahu's speech? I guess JD Vance is an anti semite now as well?
(07-24-2024, 08:25 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 08:09 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Kamala Harris has shown her colors over the years and today we can add antisemitism.
For not listening to Netanyahu's speech? I guess JD Vance is an anti semite now as well?
I guess there really isn't a point where you won't be first in line to defend the Democrats.
(07-24-2024, 08:31 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 08:25 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]For not listening to Netanyahu's speech? I guess JD Vance is an anti semite now as well?
I guess there really isn't a point where you won't be first in line to defend the Democrats.
But but but.. He's a Republican lololololololol
I even mock and laugh at him in Spanish..
Jajajajajajajajajaja
(07-24-2024, 08:31 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 08:25 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]For not listening to Netanyahu's speech? I guess JD Vance is an anti semite now as well?
I guess there really isn't a point where you won't be first in line to defend the Democrats.
I'm perfectly willing to consider evidence of Kamala being an anti-semite. This ain't it though. Unless JD Vance is also an anti-semite. Is he?
(07-24-2024, 08:31 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 08:25 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]For not listening to Netanyahu's speech? I guess JD Vance is an anti semite now as well?
I guess there really isn't a point where you won't be first in line to defend the Democrats.
Well he does have a point. If Kamala Harris is an anti-semite for not attending Netanyahu's speech, then so is JD Vance.
Right?
(07-23-2024, 11:25 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2024, 08:11 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]To you she is worse than Biden, but you have to put yourself in the mind of the average voter. On the one hand, you see a snarling old man who anger-tweets all night, has ended Roe v. Wade, and been sued for abuse by multiple women. On the other hand, here is this smiling, rather pleasant, much younger, woman who will try to restore a woman's right to choose.
Women's vote. Check.
Black vote. Check.
Pro-choice vote. Check.
Much nicer seeming person. Check.
Anyone voting for any candidate for these reasons (or anything similar) and not on policies really should stay home. Liberal, conservative, whatever.
It's funny how America didn't like Kamala Harris until they really got to know her.
After that they outright despise her.
And yet, people are acting like she's a viable candidate and, hahahahahahahaaaaaa, "nicer" LOLOLOLOLOL.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pol...la-harris/
(07-24-2024, 09:34 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2024, 11:25 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone voting for any candidate for these reasons (or anything similar) and not on policies really should stay home. Liberal, conservative, whatever.
It's funny how America didn't like Kamala Harris until they really got to know her.
After that they outright despise her.
And yet, people are acting like she's a viable candidate and, hahahahahahahaaaaaa, "nicer" LOLOLOLOLOL.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pol...la-harris/
Polls | FiveThirtyEight
Take a look. At some point the light bulb will go on in your head and you'll see why Trump is so upset that Biden withdrew.
(07-24-2024, 08:25 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 08:09 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Kamala Harris has shown her colors over the years and today we can add antisemitism.
For not listening to Netanyahu's speech? I guess JD Vance is an anti semite now as well?
Ouch what a come back...lol By the way he is not the Vice President, she is.
You didn't read her communications.. Yea the sorority gathering is vastly more important and world shaping
(07-24-2024, 09:44 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 09:34 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]It's funny how America didn't like Kamala Harris until they really got to know her.
After that they outright despise her.
And yet, people are acting like she's a viable candidate and, hahahahahahahaaaaaa, "nicer" LOLOLOLOLOL.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pol...la-harris/
Polls | FiveThirtyEight
Take a look. At some point the light bulb will go on in your head and you'll see why Trump is so upset that Biden withdrew.
Lol, the light bulb is that, so long as the pollster is ipsos then Harris is ahead, while every other pollster has her behind. If you really want to think about why that is. I mean, they have RFK at 10%, lol.
Really, NPR has them even and you want to believe ipsos?
(07-24-2024, 10:11 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 08:25 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]For not listening to Netanyahu's speech? I guess JD Vance is an anti semite now as well?
Ouch what a come back...lol By the way he is not the Vice President, she is.
You didn't read her communications.. Yea the sorority gathering is vastly more important and world shaping
He's a Senator. All senators and reps and the VP were expected to attend the speech.
And maybe somewhere in "her communications" we might find evidence of her being anti semitic. But the mere fact that she decided not to attend this speech ain't it.
(07-24-2024, 10:37 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 10:11 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Ouch what a come back...lol By the way he is not the Vice President, she is.
You didn't read her communications.. Yea the sorority gathering is vastly more important and world shaping
He's a Senator. All senators and reps and the VP were expected to attend the speech.
And maybe somewhere in "her communications" we might find evidence of her being anti semitic. But the mere fact that she decided not to attend this speech ain't it.
Dude neither Biden or Kamela decided to even meet him while he was here. That is until it became public Trump was going to meet him. One of the first duties of the executive branch in the constitution is to receive all heads of state from other countries. (minus 1)
I am an independent and deciding how to vote. I believe in the political color coding arena that makes me green. Dems are blue and Rep red. I get to keep score that way I want. Not you.
(07-24-2024, 10:42 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 10:37 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]He's a Senator. All senators and reps and the VP were expected to attend the speech.
And maybe somewhere in "her communications" we might find evidence of her being anti semitic. But the mere fact that she decided not to attend this speech ain't it.
Dude neither Biden or Kamela decided not to even meet him while he was here. That is until it became public Trump was going to meet him. One of the first duties of the executive branch in the constitution is to receive all heads of state from other countries. (minus 1)
I am an independent and deciding how to vote. I believe in the political color coding arena that makes me green. Dems are blue and Rep red. I get to keep score that way I want. Not you.
Deciding not to meet with him at all, when you are the President, is a slight. Biden should meet with a visiting head of government. Choosing not to indicates disrespect on some level.
We know Biden wants Netanyahu to step down and hold new elections. He hasn't been shy about it. Doesn't make him anti-Semitic any more than refusing to meet with Gaddafi made Obama anti-Arab.
Democrats loathe Israel yet they pander for the Jewish vote and tend to get it. None of it makes sense.
(07-24-2024, 11:07 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Democrats loathe Israel yet they pander for the Jewish vote and tend to get it. None of it makes sense.
It wouldn't make sense, if it were true. Jews are divided into groups based on how they interpret and practice their religion, and which parts of the world their ancestors fled to after the Romans expelled Jews from Judea during the reign of Hadrian. In the US, nearly all Jews trace their ancestry through German speaking areas. But world wide the Jewish tradition was also preserved in Spanish speaking areas and Arabic/Persian speaking areas. Once Israel was founded, the Jews who left the US for Israel tended to be more religiously conservative than the ones who stayed. So the Jews you meet in the US will tend to be more European and more liberal than Jews you would meet in Israel.
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