(02-13-2024, 10:13 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Had the Democrats just left Trump alone he most likely wouldn’t have the following he has now. But their attempts to leverage the legal system to thwart him has created a monster.
Dude was going to run again regardless.
He was going to win the nomination if he ran regardless.
Stop blaming Democrats for the behavior of Republican primary voters.
The onus always goes on the anus.
(02-13-2024, 11:00 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2024, 10:13 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Had the Democrats just left Trump alone he most likely wouldn’t have the following he has now. But their attempts to leverage the legal system to thwart him has created a monster.
Dude was going to run again regardless.
He was going to win the nomination if he ran regardless.
Stop blaming Democrats for the behavior of Republican primary voters.
The onus always goes on the anus.
It's your fault that Trump is running again.. If you RINO's didn't [BLEEP] the Republican Party up so much, we wouldn't need Trump..
But nooooooooo.. Let's force blame elsewhere and complain about him running lolol
Weak..
(02-13-2024, 11:31 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2024, 11:00 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Dude was going to run again regardless.
He was going to win the nomination if he ran regardless.
Stop blaming Democrats for the behavior of Republican primary voters.
The onus always goes on the anus.
It's your fault that Trump is running again.. If you RINO's didn't [BLEEP] the Republican Party up so much, we wouldn't need Trump..
But nooooooooo.. Let's force blame elsewhere and complain about him running lolol
Weak..
Look, you like the guy. Don't you?
Why don't you just accept the blame for him running and succeeding up to this point?
(02-13-2024, 11:46 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2024, 11:31 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]It's your fault that Trump is running again.. If you RINO's didn't [BLEEP] the Republican Party up so much, we wouldn't need Trump..
But nooooooooo.. Let's force blame elsewhere and complain about him running lolol
Weak..
Look, you like the guy. Don't you?
Why don't you just accept the blame for him running and succeeding up to this point?
And why are we running him?
Because you guys crept into the party and destroyed it with your weak [BLEEP] ideologies.
Looks to me like the Republican Party is trying to earn back the Conservative title by running against the people who wanted the party destroyed, like you & Marty..
(02-13-2024, 11:52 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2024, 11:46 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Look, you like the guy. Don't you?
Why don't you just accept the blame for him running and succeeding up to this point?
And why are we running him?
Because you guys crept into the party and destroyed it with your weak [BLEEP] ideologies.
Looks to me like the Republican Party is trying to earn back the Conservative title by running against the people who wanted the party destroyed, like you & Marty..
Yeah we just disagree about what that word means. Conservative means keeping things together. Maintaining status quo.
(02-13-2024, 01:25 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2024, 11:52 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]And why are we running him?
Because you guys crept into the party and destroyed it with your weak [BLEEP] ideologies.
Looks to me like the Republican Party is trying to earn back the Conservative title by running against the people who wanted the party destroyed, like you & Marty..
Yeah we just disagree about what that word means. Conservative means keeping things together. Maintaining status quo.
The status quo to you guys means Uniparty..
So yeah, you can take your status quo and shove it like the other stuff I told you to shove up there too..
(02-13-2024, 11:00 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2024, 10:13 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Had the Democrats just left Trump alone he most likely wouldn’t have the following he has now. But their attempts to leverage the legal system to thwart him has created a monster.
Dude was going to run again regardless.
He was going to win the nomination if he ran regardless.
Stop blaming Democrats for the behavior of Republican primary voters.
The onus always goes on the anus.
No one said he wasn’t going to run. Had the Democrats not subverted the legal system for political expediency, his following would not be as deep. By committing the very practice that Republicans claimed Democrats were doing, his support only strengthened. Not a political observance, simply a fact.
But look on the bright side, my assertion provided you the opportunity to once again defend Democrats AND present your catchy little turn of phrase. Good job!
(02-13-2024, 04:43 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2024, 11:00 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Dude was going to run again regardless.
He was going to win the nomination if he ran regardless.
Stop blaming Democrats for the behavior of Republican primary voters.
The onus always goes on the anus.
No one said he wasn’t going to run. Had the Democrats not subverted the legal system for political expediency, his following would not be as deep. By committing the very practice that Republicans claimed Democrats were doing, his support only strengthened. Not a political observance, simply a fact.
But look on the bright side, my assertion provided you the opportunity to once again defend Democrats AND present your catchy little turn of phrase. Good job!
Trump gets to root for an armed insurrection for 3 hours,
Keep nuclear codes in a public bathroom,
and Lie to state election officials,
But it's all really Democrat's fault for trying to hold him accountable for that?! Do you hear how ridiculous that sounds?
Even if Republican voters only reacted to the prosecution, even if they weren't always going to vote for him again all along, they are the ones to blame for their own votes.
(02-13-2024, 07:07 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2024, 05:44 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Trump gets to root for an armed insurrection for 3 hours,
Keep nuclear codes in a public bathroom,
and Lie to state election officials,
But it's all really Democrat's fault for trying to hold him accountable for that?! Do you hear how ridiculous that sounds?
Even if Republican voters only reacted to the prosecution, even if they weren't always going to vote for him again all along, they are the ones to blame for their own votes.
All valid charges, like, you know, Russia collusion.
Would it have been more secure if Trump kept the classified documents in a garage rather than a bathroom?
Biden didn't have the nuclear codes there and his garage isn't a public golf club, event space, restaurant, and conference center.
The Russia collusion may or may not have happened. No proof turned up. It probably didn't happen, but there was reasonable suspicion to start that investigation. Meanwhile, the cheering on an insurrection happened live on social media and television.
You will always split hairs to defend the establishment.
(02-13-2024, 10:04 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]You will always split hairs to defend the establishment.
Yeah, the difference between an event that might have happened in secret and one that definitely happened on live TV with Twitter posts and all is totes hair splitting.
What would we do without you calling out all this motivated reasoning I do with even more sophisticated and less self aware motivated reasoning of your own?
(02-13-2024, 08:19 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2024, 07:07 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]All valid charges, like, you know, Russia collusion.
Would it have been more secure if Trump kept the classified documents in a garage rather than a bathroom?
Biden didn't have the nuclear codes there and his garage isn't a public golf club, event space, restaurant, and conference center.
The Russia collusion may or may not have happened. No proof turned up. It probably didn't happen, but there was reasonable suspicion to start that investigation. Meanwhile, the cheering on an insurrection happened live on social media and television.
You’re parsing. Regardless, nuclear codes?
https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status...4442166747
All this info has been out there for more than 3 years. The rumor that Trump has the binder is new. There has been speculation that Trump has it and will share it when he chooses, but it hasn't been reported on MSM. This exposes all of the top dems as anyone connected to Obama and Clinton were involved.
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(02-14-2024, 12:29 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2024, 08:19 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Biden didn't have the nuclear codes there and his garage isn't a public golf club, event space, restaurant, and conference center.
The Russia collusion may or may not have happened. No proof turned up. It probably didn't happen, but there was reasonable suspicion to start that investigation. Meanwhile, the cheering on an insurrection happened live on social media and television.
You’re parsing. Regardless, nuclear codes?
I'm not going to read the news for you.
There was also stuff in there pertaining to communication security.
(02-14-2024, 02:14 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status...4442166747
All this info has been out there for more than 3 years. The rumor that Trump has the binder is new. There has been speculation that Trump has it and will share it when he chooses, but it hasn't been reported on MSM. This exposes all of the top dems as anyone connected to Obama and Clinton were involved.
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Whatever classified info was once at Mar a Lago is now in the FBI's possession, not Trump's.
(02-14-2024, 07:07 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2024, 12:29 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]You’re parsing. Regardless, nuclear codes?
I'm not going to read the news for you.
There was also stuff in there pertaining to communication security.
(02-14-2024, 02:14 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status...4442166747
All this info has been out there for more than 3 years. The rumor that Trump has the binder is new. There has been speculation that Trump has it and will share it when he chooses, but it hasn't been reported on MSM. This exposes all of the top dems as anyone connected to Obama and Clinton were involved.
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Whatever classified info was once at Mar a Lago is now in the FBI's possession, not Trump's.
So now it’s COMSEC material and not “nuclear codes”. Still not good. Joe would have probably locked that in the glove compartment of his corvette.
(02-14-2024, 07:15 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2024, 07:07 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not going to read the news for you.
There was also stuff in there pertaining to communication security.
Whatever classified info was once at Mar a Lago is now in the FBI's possession, not Trump's.
So now it’s COMSEC material and not “nuclear codes”. Still not good. Joe would have probably locked that in the glove compartment of his corvette.
Har har. Joe did not have nuclear info or comsec info in his garage.