(10-18-2023, 03:00 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (10-18-2023, 02:34 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]This sums it up nicely..
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And you have zero chance without all of the voters you mentioned above.
Unless you change the voting system to some form of ranked choice or approval voting.
Seems like the voters mentioned above are the one's still left in Congress.
There's a reckoning coming. They'll be voted out, and then them, you and the rest of the RINOS will be left, holding that flaming bag left on your doorstep. But have no fear! I'm sure the party of terrorism will welcome you with open claws..
Make sure you shine the boot before you lick..
(10-18-2023, 01:57 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (10-18-2023, 01:54 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]1 Rutherford literally said he wasn't going to support who Gaetz supported.
2 Nonsense
3 Don't tell me what my concept is. Your ability to think for yourself is limited to talking points, which is why you're wrong almost every time you have an original thought. It's very easy to see what is establishment and what isn't by what actually happens. Talk is cheap. What are they voting for? Who does it help? If it's not the people, it's the establishment.
Check who voted for Scalise. They both voted for him.
Blame yourself for incomplete information. Follow better folks on social media, or just stop using it entirely.
I agree that we should judge these guys based on what they vote for. I judge them that way. And I find them to be almost exactly the same because they have only ever voted on what the speaker allows them to vote on. Do you have any examples of Rutherford and Gaetz voting differently on anything besides who the speaker should be?
Also, when I compare Rutherford to Gaetz, I'm not talking about Gaetz ending McCarthy's speakership a couple of weeks ago. I'm talking about Gaetz holding out on letting McCarthy begin his speakership in the first place. That's the direct comparison. The behavior is exactly the same.
I don't need to check who voted for Scalise. I am literally telling you what Rutherford said when asked why he wouldn't vote for Jordan, you freaking hack. The source IS Rutherford.
As to Gaetz holding out, I have no problem with a Representive having expectation for a speaker. My issue with Rutherford is that he doesn't have one. His answer as to why he wouldn't vote for Jordan is pedantic. HIS answer. If Rutherford said, I will vote for him under these conditions, so long as those conditions are in line with what helps his voters, I wouldn't give a [BLEEP]. They aren't. He wants an establishment candidate. You know... the people who aren't trying to push for single item bills. I won't vote for that guy ever again. I will actively help someone campaign against him.
(10-18-2023, 03:26 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (10-18-2023, 01:57 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Check who voted for Scalise. They both voted for him.
Blame yourself for incomplete information. Follow better folks on social media, or just stop using it entirely.
I agree that we should judge these guys based on what they vote for. I judge them that way. And I find them to be almost exactly the same because they have only ever voted on what the speaker allows them to vote on. Do you have any examples of Rutherford and Gaetz voting differently on anything besides who the speaker should be?
Also, when I compare Rutherford to Gaetz, I'm not talking about Gaetz ending McCarthy's speakership a couple of weeks ago. I'm talking about Gaetz holding out on letting McCarthy begin his speakership in the first place. That's the direct comparison. The behavior is exactly the same.
I don't need to check who voted for Scalise. I am literally telling you what Rutherford said when asked why he wouldn't vote for Jordan, you freaking hack. The source IS Rutherford.
As to Gaetz holding out, I have no problem with a Representive having expectation for a speaker. My issue with Rutherford is that he doesn't have one. His answer as to why he wouldn't vote for Jordan is pedantic. HIS answer. If Rutherford said, I will vote for him under these conditions, so long as those conditions are in line with what helps his voters, I wouldn't give a [BLEEP]. They aren't. He wants an establishment candidate. You know... the people who aren't trying to push for single item bills. I won't vote for that guy ever again. I will actively help someone campaign against him.
How Rutherford votes is more important than what he says. I think you're misinterpreting what Rutherford said. For his part, Gaetz did not start the process back in January with coherent demands. How did you feel in January?
(10-18-2023, 04:22 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/JoeyMannarinoUS/stat...KdrKQ&s=19
I love this chick lolol
https://twitter.com/ChayaRaichik10/statu...HC60g&s=19
Area man now calling any old protest an insurrection. Film at 11.
(10-18-2023, 05:02 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (10-18-2023, 03:26 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I don't need to check who voted for Scalise. I am literally telling you what Rutherford said when asked why he wouldn't vote for Jordan, you freaking hack. The source IS Rutherford.
As to Gaetz holding out, I have no problem with a Representive having expectation for a speaker. My issue with Rutherford is that he doesn't have one. His answer as to why he wouldn't vote for Jordan is pedantic. HIS answer. If Rutherford said, I will vote for him under these conditions, so long as those conditions are in line with what helps his voters, I wouldn't give a [BLEEP]. They aren't. He wants an establishment candidate. You know... the people who aren't trying to push for single item bills. I won't vote for that guy ever again. I will actively help someone campaign against him.
How Rutherford votes is more important than what he says. I think you're misinterpreting what Rutherford said. For his part, Gaetz did not start the process back in January with coherent demands. How did you feel in January?
(10-18-2023, 04:22 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/JoeyMannarinoUS/stat...KdrKQ&s=19
I love this chick lolol
https://twitter.com/ChayaRaichik10/statu...HC60g&s=19
Area man now calling any old protest an insurrection. Film at 11.
He said he wouldn't back anyone Gaetz backs. So he won't vote for Peterson who has Gaetz's vote. It's not difficult to understand.
Even a caveman could understand it.
(10-18-2023, 05:02 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (10-18-2023, 03:26 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I don't need to check who voted for Scalise. I am literally telling you what Rutherford said when asked why he wouldn't vote for Jordan, you freaking hack. The source IS Rutherford.
As to Gaetz holding out, I have no problem with a Representive having expectation for a speaker. My issue with Rutherford is that he doesn't have one. His answer as to why he wouldn't vote for Jordan is pedantic. HIS answer. If Rutherford said, I will vote for him under these conditions, so long as those conditions are in line with what helps his voters, I wouldn't give a [BLEEP]. They aren't. He wants an establishment candidate. You know... the people who aren't trying to push for single item bills. I won't vote for that guy ever again. I will actively help someone campaign against him.
How Rutherford votes is more important than what he says. I think you're misinterpreting what Rutherford said. For his part, Gaetz did not start the process back in January with coherent demands. How did you feel in January?
Yes. I'm just misinterpreting what he said. Jk. I'm not you. I don't have that problem.
I happen to share Gaetz view that McCarthy isn't a strong enough leader, and it shows. You always try to make false equivalencies. What is Rutherford saying he specifically dislikes about Jordan?
(10-18-2023, 06:53 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (10-18-2023, 05:02 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]How Rutherford votes is more important than what he says. I think you're misinterpreting what Rutherford said. For his part, Gaetz did not start the process back in January with coherent demands. How did you feel in January?
Yes. I'm just misinterpreting what he said. Jk. I'm not you. I don't have that problem.
I happen to share Gaetz view that McCarthy isn't a strong enough leader, and it shows. You always try to make false equivalencies. What is Rutherford saying he specifically dislikes about Jordan?
You think Gaetz's actions were justified because McCarthy was not a strong leader. OK. Suppose I find a quote of Rutherford saying Jordan is not a strong leader? I mean it shows, right? Scoreboard! The guy lost two votes, right? If I found a quote of Rutherford saying "Jordan is not a strong leader and it shows", you would agree that's a real equivalency, right?
The fundamental rule of American politics is be careful what you do, anything you do will be done back to you by people with the opposite opinion. Have you forgotten? Usually we have to wait 2 to 8 years for the blowback, but Gaetz proceeded with no plan at all so he gets his right away.
(10-18-2023, 06:33 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-18-2023, 05:02 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]How Rutherford votes is more important than what he says. I think you're misinterpreting what Rutherford said. For his part, Gaetz did not start the process back in January with coherent demands. How did you feel in January?
Area man now calling any old protest an insurrection. Film at 11.
He said he wouldn't back anyone Gaetz backs. So he won't vote for Peterson who has Gaetz's vote. It's not difficult to understand.
Even a caveman could understand it.
Except they both voted for Scalise.
Who's the caveman now?
(10-18-2023, 09:36 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (10-18-2023, 06:33 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]He said he wouldn't back anyone Gaetz backs. So he won't vote for Peterson who has Gaetz's vote. It's not difficult to understand.
Even a caveman could understand it.
Except they both voted for Scalise.
Who's the caveman now?
Still you.. Sloping forehead, unibrow and smell like poo..
(10-18-2023, 09:36 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (10-18-2023, 06:33 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]He said he wouldn't back anyone Gaetz backs. So he won't vote for Peterson who has Gaetz's vote. It's not difficult to understand.
Even a caveman could understand it.
Except they both voted for Scalise.
Who's the caveman now?
So Gaetz said one thing and did another, not Rutherford who did exactly what he said he would do. I think he wasn't going to vote Peterson regardless but blamed Gaetz.
Every single of of these lunatics is a lying sack of horse excrement talking out of both sides of their mouth and voting based on what they can get to win the next election cycle. They're all scum.