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I expressed my surprise in another post about how Israel was caught so far off guard. This was an utter breakdown borne of complacency, which I believe is a reflection of the younger Israeli generations. 

The generations after the first forty years of the establishment of Israel have never known firsthand of the horrors and hardships of the time before. Even the people of that time are, like all of us, drifting away with the years. There's even been increasing pushback by younger generations on Israel's policy of conscription. The dangers of attack and invasion seemed unlikely. 

They won't be anymore. This wholesale attack on civilians has provided evidence to them, loud and clear, that they can never let their guards down. While devasting initially, this event will serve to galvanize the resolve of Israel's contemporary generation like never before.

I've got a bad feeling about this.

Yikes.. Stay the hell out of Green Cove with that nonsense..
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1...mif0w&s=19

(10-07-2023, 01:17 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-07-2023, 01:11 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone who voted for war, death and destruction instead of mean Tweets..

You know, the stupid person vote..

How about that? 

I figured I would have to slow it down for some..

I still don't understand the question.  What's the question?   

Maybe lucky2last can formulate a specific question. He's a little more coherent than you are.

I would ask the question, but you already answered it. You have your head too far buried in the sand to acknowledge the reality created by your vote. I have never advocated for Trump as a person, but as a President, literally everything was better in the world EXCEPT for the ruckus created by the establishment and their leftist ideologues who plastered their narratives, hand-wringing, and tears all over our news and social media. Instead of standing up to it and telling them to do better, you capitulated. 

To shut them up, the millions of moderates (in order to seem educated and cultured), swallowed it all and regurgitated their words, claiming Trump was the devil and wanted democracy dead. 4 years of no new wars. 4 years of economic prosperity. 4 years of working on controlling our border. 4 years of working towards restoring free speech. 4 years of pushing back against globalist corporations who want to capture American government. All gone because you guys are too cowardly to stand against the flow of "progressivism." 

Now, even in the face of pure incompetence created by the Biden administration (afghan, ukraine, Israel, inflation), you can't acknowledge your direct culpability in this mess. That was his question: How do you absolve yourself of this travesty? You're answer, but Trump. Because, you know, even though everything was better, he was a racist, sexist, russian, warmongering fascist. I know the facts don't bear it out, but they would have. Oh... they would have. We really dodged a [BLEEP] bullet.

Here's the less angry version of that post. More harm has been done by the blind idealism of the modern left than anything they can claim about conservatives. People like you need to start opening your eyes to that reality. Trump is no exception.

(10-07-2023, 11:42 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-07-2023, 01:17 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]I still don't understand the question.  What's the question?   

Maybe lucky2last can formulate a specific question. He's a little more coherent than you are.

I would ask the question, but you already answered it. You have your head too far buried in the sand to acknowledge the reality created by your vote. I have never advocated for Trump as a person, but as a President, literally everything was better in the world EXCEPT for the ruckus created by the establishment and their leftist ideologues who plastered their narratives, hand-wringing, and tears all over our news and social media. Instead of standing up to it and telling them to do better, you capitulated. 

To shut them up, the millions of moderates (in order to seem educated and cultured), swallowed it all and regurgitated their words, claiming Trump was the devil and wanted democracy dead. 4 years of no new wars. 4 years of economic prosperity. 4 years of working on controlling our border. 4 years of working towards restoring free speech. 4 years of pushing back against globalist corporations who want to capture American government. All gone because you guys are too cowardly to stand against the flow of "progressivism." 

Now, even in the face of pure incompetence created by the Biden administration (afghan, ukraine, Israel, inflation), you can't acknowledge your direct culpability in this mess. That was his question: How do you absolve yourself of this travesty? You're answer, but Trump. Because, you know, even though everything was better, he was a racist, sexist, russian, warmongering fascist. I know the facts don't bear it out, but they would have. Oh... they would have. We really dodged a [BLEEP] bullet.

Wow talk about someone having their face burried in the sand.  

You're missing the massive global pandemic that occurred in the final year of Trump's term in office.

Do you believe that Trump and Biden have complete control over the global and national economy and that Trump simply chose for things to be better than Biden has?

The average American couldn't go outside for 25% of the time Trump was President.

But yes this country was great. ?
 
Also, inflation went up massively under Biden sounds like his fault. But, Inflation went up massively around the globe as the war in Ukraine broke up doesn't quite have that Biden-hating power.

The same is similar for the other statements. Unemployment went up massively under Biden sounds like his fault. Unemployment continued going up as Covid epidemic hit full force around the globe doesn't.

The answer to pretty much all things economy is that Biden caught the fallout of Covid hitting full force + War in Ukraine breaking up. Both events influenced the economies around the globe massively. And none of those things could be attributed to Biden. Do you want to try again?

(10-07-2023, 10:42 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/LeadingReport/status...-sC3g&s=19

Now, I'm not saying they didn't make such a claim.  But I can't find anywhere that they actually make that claim.  All I see is someone saying they made that claim.  Can you find a link where Hamas actually made that claim?

(10-08-2023, 07:09 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-07-2023, 10:42 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/LeadingReport/status...-sC3g&s=19

Now, I'm not saying they didn't make such a claim.  But I can't find anywhere that they actually make that claim.  All I see is someone saying they made that claim.  Can you find a link where Hamas actually made that claim?

If I did, I would have posted it. That's why there's a word in the post that says, "claiming"..  

It's a reliable source, It was an interesting post and thought I'd share. You want something more than that, do your own [BLEEP] research and google or shut the [BLEEP] up, clown..

I'm sure Marty would want a video of his mom and dad having sex, just to make sure he was really born..

I bet he reads this and checks pornhub.. or The Discovery Channel..

Hamas identifying as IDF targets. 

https://twitter.com/TheMossadIL/status/1...04541?s=20

https://twitter.com/randomname95379/stat...AB1BQ&s=19

Seeing that makes me wanna drop Nukes..

Oh [BLEEP] lolol

https://twitter.com/iFightForKids/status...ZzrMg&s=19

(10-08-2023, 11:36 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/randomname95379/stat...AB1BQ&s=19

Seeing that makes me wanna drop Nukes..

I have some doubt about the authenticity of this.

(10-08-2023, 02:29 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-08-2023, 11:36 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/randomname95379/stat...AB1BQ&s=19

Seeing that makes me wanna drop Nukes..

I have some doubt about the authenticity of this.

I have some as well, but from all the videos I've seen and NOT posted because of extreme content, I wouldn't doubt if it was real either.

(10-08-2023, 01:10 AM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-07-2023, 11:42 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I would ask the question, but you already answered it. You have your head too far buried in the sand to acknowledge the reality created by your vote. I have never advocated for Trump as a person, but as a President, literally everything was better in the world EXCEPT for the ruckus created by the establishment and their leftist ideologues who plastered their narratives, hand-wringing, and tears all over our news and social media. Instead of standing up to it and telling them to do better, you capitulated. 

To shut them up, the millions of moderates (in order to seem educated and cultured), swallowed it all and regurgitated their words, claiming Trump was the devil and wanted democracy dead. 4 years of no new wars. 4 years of economic prosperity. 4 years of working on controlling our border. 4 years of working towards restoring free speech. 4 years of pushing back against globalist corporations who want to capture American government. All gone because you guys are too cowardly to stand against the flow of "progressivism." 

Now, even in the face of pure incompetence created by the Biden administration (afghan, ukraine, Israel, inflation), you can't acknowledge your direct culpability in this mess. That was his question: How do you absolve yourself of this travesty? You're answer, but Trump. Because, you know, even though everything was better, he was a racist, sexist, russian, warmongering fascist. I know the facts don't bear it out, but they would have. Oh... they would have. We really dodged a [BLEEP] bullet.

Wow talk about someone having their face burried in the sand.  

You're missing the massive global pandemic that occurred in the final year of Trump's term in office.

Do you believe that Trump and Biden have complete control over the global and national economy and that Trump simply chose for things to be better than Biden has?

The average American couldn't go outside for 25% of the time Trump was President.

But yes this country was great. ?
 
Also, inflation went up massively under Biden sounds like his fault. But, Inflation went up massively around the globe as the war in Ukraine broke up doesn't quite have that Biden-hating power.

The same is similar for the other statements. Unemployment went up massively under Biden sounds like his fault. Unemployment continued going up as Covid epidemic hit full force around the globe doesn't.

The answer to pretty much all things economy is that Biden caught the fallout of Covid hitting full force + War in Ukraine breaking up. Both events influenced the economies around the globe massively. And none of those things could be attributed to Biden. Do you want to try again?

No. I don't want to try again. 

Covid was handled terribly, and some of that falls on Trump. However, Trump followed the policies recommended to him by the CDC, ultimately resulting in terrible economic consequences. He was also the first one to start pushing back against the CDC, rightfully. He shut down travel into this country and was called a racist. He wanted to remove the shutdowns and was called a murderer. This is the key feature of Trump that is not present in other politicians. He doesn't always make the right moves, but if he realizes something isn't working, he makes a public stink about it (even if it's just to save face). He pushed back against the CDC, against Corporate America, against open borders, against the lying news media, against the corruption in DC, against foreign nations asking for handouts, against the faux green movement, against a military industrial complex that wages relentless wars, against the prison industrial complex, against divisive social policies like critical race theory and gender identity (which I hate to even use because the brainless among us are conditioned to react to that like a Muslim who sees a drawing of Muhammed). All in the face of relentless criticism. 

All of these "issues" make other people a LOT of money and establishment politicians don't actually give a [BLEEP] so long as they get reelected and profit from insider trading. They stand in front of the nation and toe the line. They give us platitudes while the people who are writing the policies keep getting richer. Biden is the poster child for this kind of rot. He's made millions while serving in public office. I want to be clear that I don't think this is a left/right issue. There is a difference between the establishment left and the establishment right, but it's not worth addressing. The ultimate point is that these people have no incentives to work for us, the common American. You think these politicians are writing these 100-page omnibus bills? They aren't even able to read them before they vote on them. 

Take the Covid bailout: it was owed to the American people due to mandatory government lockdowns, but it was executed in the worst way possible. You think Trump wrote that policy? Or do you think he was advised by people that this was a good policy? Ultimately, this resulted in the largest upward transfer of wealth in American history. Shocking, I know. I can give Trump some leniency here, but not a lot. I don't have a problem acknowledging that it's Trump's inability to get ahead of these matters that hurt America, but I honestly don't know who could have. It's freaking whack-a-mole trying to keep greedy hands out of the American coffer. All you can do is try to course correct and move forward (considering nobody is capable of prosecuting these crooks). 

You don't even ask yourself how much worse this would have been if Trump had actually followed CDC policy. Blue states stayed closed for WAY too long. Just Chicago, NY, and California account for 30% of our economic output, and they stayed closed for WAY too long. Newsome made policies that crushed our economic supply lines for the entire country. Could Trump constitutionally force blue states to reopen? The answer no. Again, Trump takes the fall for bad democratic policies. He becomes the scapegoat to hide how people are stealing from us, and people gobble it up. 

Biden's follow up bail-out was a cash grab. While conservatives were on board with the first one, the second one definitely pushed us over the edge. People like me warned that this was going to create massive inflation, and we were told it would not. These people are never held accountable for their lies because they can say but Trump and all the NPCs nod in agreement. Congress actually made line-item changes to Biden's bail out bailout, which resulted in very rich cities getting a lot of money. From Forbes:

Quote:Beverly Hills, CA, will receive $6.3 million while the Hamptons, NY, will get $8.6 million. They’re followed by Key West, FL ($10.1 million); Greenwich, CT ($21 million); Oyster Bay, NY ($32.7 million); and Cambridge, MA ($65 million).

In fact, the 50 richest places (Bloomberg) would receive $100 million in COVID-19 bailout funds. For example, Atherton, CA, the wealthiest city in America with an average household income of $525,000, received $1.3 million from the legislation.

Hillsborough, CA, reaps $2.1 million from the bill even though it boasts a median home price of $5.8 million. Scarsdale, NY—the richest place on the East Coast—would get $2 million in “relief.”

Democrats earmarked $2 million for the richest town in Texas, Highland Park. The median home price is $1.5 million and notable residents include the owner of the Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones, and the Bush family.

California’s sunny playgrounds get big bailouts including Manhattan Beach ($6.6 million); Newport Beach ($9 million); Palm Springs ($11 million); Palo Alto ($12 million); Brentwood ($12.1 million); Napa ($15 million); San Jose ($22 million); Santa Barbara ($22 million); Santa Monica ($29 million); Huntington Beach ($31 million); and even Berkeley ($68 million).

So, yeah... you got him. Big ole' dumb Trump couldn't stop people on the take looking to take advantage of EVERY crisis. Biden's doing SO much better. The dude can barely read a sentence. MOST importantly, he doesn't give a [BLEEP]. Neither does his party. I can't think of a single democrat that is pushing back in a meaningful way. What we are seeing now is pure and utter incompetence and greed. I get so tired of dealing with people who can't see through the rot. Just try to poke a hole through it. Just try. Use your eyeballs, man. 

I haven't even broached the foreign disasters that are occurring because of Biden's incompetence... Afghanistan, Ukraine, and now Israel. All these things get spun as victories somehow. It really blows my mind that you guys are so easily persuaded by people with microphones. I haven't even discussed the potential fallout from BRICS that's on the horizon. I haven't even addressed the future economic and civil effects of the border crisis, even though the hypocrisy of blue states is on full display. I haven't even addressed the social fallout that has stemmed from the intentional destruction of masculinity and the protection it affords the family. This is not a left and right issue, though the left is clearly leading the charge. Wake up.

https://twitter.com/MayraFlores_TX/statu..._voFg&s=19

That's like a Tyson uppercut straight to his old turkey gizzard lolol

(10-08-2023, 08:47 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/statu...I4Seg&s=19

Yeah. That looks like a setup.