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400 million guns in the country. Where are they so called good guys with a gun?

One just stopped a shooting a few weeks ago. You see what you want to see.

(06-02-2022, 03:54 AM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ]400 million guns in the country.  Where are they so called good guys with a gun?

Not everyone has a concealed carry permit. Not every state allows open carry. There are also "gun free zones" which include all public and some private schools, some churches, most medical facilities, all local, state and federal government buildings, many shopping areas just to name a few. 

Also, not every gun is owned by law abiding citizens. I don't know that a criminal or someone with a felony record is going to suddenly become 'heroic' and pull his/her gun out to stop a shooting. They would have to answer too many questions.

(06-02-2022, 03:54 AM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ]400 million guns in the country.  Where are they so called good guys with a gun?

How about a good woman?

https://www.wral.com/woman-credited-with.../20306891/

"This lady was carrying a lawful firearm," Hazelett said. "A law abiding citizen who stopped the threat of probably 20 or 30 people getting killed. She engaged the threat and stopped it. She didn't run from the threat, she engaged it. Preventing a mass casualty event here in Charleston."

(06-02-2022, 02:19 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-02-2022, 03:54 AM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ]400 million guns in the country.  Where are they so called good guys with a gun?

Not everyone has a concealed carry permit. Not every state allows open carry. There are also "gun free zones" which include all public and some private schools, some churches, most medical facilities, all local, state and federal government buildings, many shopping areas just to name a few. 

Also, not every gun is owned by law abiding citizens. I don't know that a criminal or someone with a felony record is going to suddenly become 'heroic' and pull his/her gun out to stop a shooting. They would have to answer too many questions.

It's very important to recognize that the overwhelming majority of mass shootings happen in "gun free zones" because no matter how crazy the shooter might be he isn't going to attack the gun club. But for some reason the morons in charge think that a sign is going to stop a criminal from committing a crime.

Anyone else laugh their [BLEEP] off during Biden's speech when they cut to commercial? Haha

Was watching on FCN.. Gave Verizon a virtual high five lol

(06-02-2022, 08:13 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-02-2022, 02:19 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Not everyone has a concealed carry permit. Not every state allows open carry. There are also "gun free zones" which include all public and some private schools, some churches, most medical facilities, all local, state and federal government buildings, many shopping areas just to name a few. 

Also, not every gun is owned by law abiding citizens. I don't know that a criminal or someone with a felony record is going to suddenly become 'heroic' and pull his/her gun out to stop a shooting. They would have to answer too many questions.

It's very important to recognize that the overwhelming majority of mass shootings happen in "gun free zones" because no matter how crazy the shooter might be he isn't going to attack the gun club. But for some reason the morons in charge think that a sign is going to stop a criminal from committing a crime.

Yep. Funny how that happens.

(06-02-2022, 08:13 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-02-2022, 02:19 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Not everyone has a concealed carry permit. Not every state allows open carry. There are also "gun free zones" which include all public and some private schools, some churches, most medical facilities, all local, state and federal government buildings, many shopping areas just to name a few. 

Also, not every gun is owned by law abiding citizens. I don't know that a criminal or someone with a felony record is going to suddenly become 'heroic' and pull his/her gun out to stop a shooting. They would have to answer too many questions.

It's very important to recognize that the overwhelming majority of mass shootings happen in "gun free zones" because no matter how crazy the shooter might be he isn't going to attack the gun club. But for some reason the morons in charge think that a sign is going to stop a criminal from committing a crime.

There are some at schools, and nightclubs, yes, but there seem to be none at courthouses, police stations, and places like that.  A gun free zone is not a bad thing, as long as it's properly staffed by trained, brave individuals.

(06-02-2022, 09:57 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-02-2022, 08:13 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]It's very important to recognize that the overwhelming majority of mass shootings happen in "gun free zones" because no matter how crazy the shooter might be he isn't going to attack the gun club. But for some reason the morons in charge think that a sign is going to stop a criminal from committing a crime.

There are some at schools, and nightclubs, yes, but there seem to be none at courthouses, police stations, and places like that.  A gun free zone is not a bad thing, as long as it's properly staffed by trained, brave individuals.

Gun Free Zones are as effective as speed limit signs.

As evident by what you already said FSG.

And who the hell would be dumb enough to bring a gun to a police station or courthouse and open fire? Schools, grocery stores and churches don't have properly trained staff to deal with active shooter situations. Thus the body count.

(06-02-2022, 11:06 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]As evident by what you already said FSG.

And who the hell would be dumb enough to bring a gun to a police station or courthouse and open fire? Schools, grocery stores and churches don't have properly trained staff to deal with active shooter situations. Thus the body count.

I agree.
The most a place like Target should do is insist on concealed rather than open carry.  They shouldn't be worrying themselves about if I have something that I'm supposed to be hiding from them anyways.
But a school, the strategy is a bit different because a school is not supposed to be easy to walk in and out of the way a retail store is.  A school should operate more on the courthouse theory.  There should be armed security there, and those guys should be brave enough to intervene and pursue.

This is what the Democratic party os trying to do, pull off one illusion after another, and also what they think of those of us that see through their BS..........

The illegitimate Biden regime is and has proven to be a total and complete failure. The Democrat party has been taken over by the extreme far left, resulting in a party that is on the verge of being split into another party and hurling itself towards irrelevance.

If you still support the Democrats it’s because you either personally gain from policies that are hurting this country or you’re just ignorant and or stupid.

Seriously, this country was rocking economically just a year and a half ago. What the actual hell are they doing?

(06-04-2022, 07:24 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]The illegitimate Biden regime is and has proven to be a total and complete failure. The Democrat party has been taken over by the extreme far left,  resulting in a party that is on the verge of  being split into another party and hurling itself towards irrelevance.

If you still support the Democrats it’s because you either personally gain from policies that are hurting this country or you’re just ignorant and or stupid.

Seriously, this country was rocking economically just a year and a half ago. What the actual hell are they doing?

Because so many states have a closed partisan primary, and because Democratic party registration is above 30% in nearly every state, and because people rarely bother to change their party affiliation, both the democratic and republican parties are essentially eternal. No new party will ever get enough people to change their registration for the new party to become relevant. Neither party will ever be replaced, until the voting system changes in many states.

Today's democratic party is indeed in a conflict between its old establishment and its younger progressives, but it is normal for American political parties to go through ideological conflicts.  The Republican party had a major ideoligical conflict from 1964 to 1980.  And it was good.  Conflict can be good.

The republican party today also has a conflict, started by Trump, but unfortunately it's not an ideological conflict. It's only a conflict of personalities.

This is revealed when you look at the primaries.  Democratic party primaries usually have two entrants.  There's a pelosi-backed liberal and a sanders-backed progressive.  

By contrast, Republican party primaries lately have three to five entrants.  All of them hope for Trumps endorsement, and all of them are just running on their personality, with very little ideological difference between them, as Trump has no real ideology beyond  being belligerent.

This is a simple truth that all Fascist, and wanna be Fascist, and their allies in the MSM leaders know.........

What about a Ron Desantis and Tulsi Gabbard ticket in 2024? She's a liberal more in the classic sense, which is fine by me. As compared to where the dem party stands nowadays, that makes her Hitler's lieutenant.

(06-07-2022, 05:46 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]What about a Ron Desantis and Tulsi Gabbard ticket in 2024? She's a liberal more in the classic sense, which is fine by me. As compared to where the dem party stands nowadays, that makes her Hitler's lieutenant.

Tulsi needs to switch to republican.. Too hot to be a democrat/liberal.

(06-07-2022, 05:46 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]What about a Ron Desantis and Tulsi Gabbard ticket in 2024? She's a liberal more in the classic sense, which is fine by me. As compared to where the dem party stands nowadays, that makes her Hitler's lieutenant.

I'd vote for her as an independent. Not as a Democrat. And I doubt she'd change to the GOP.

(06-07-2022, 06:27 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-07-2022, 05:46 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]What about a Ron Desantis and Tulsi Gabbard ticket in 2024? She's a liberal more in the classic sense, which is fine by me. As compared to where the dem party stands nowadays, that makes her Hitler's lieutenant.

Tulsi needs to switch to republican.. Too hot to be a democrat/liberal.

Not sure about her. She was part of WEF and has ties that are worrisome. People change but just not sure she has.

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Car plows into crowd in Berlin, 1 dead many injured.

https://www.toddstarnes.com/crime/theres...ar-church/

Terrible.