Oh, but you see, Fox news has been discredited thoroughly by its competitors, so.... pretty sure we can discount everything they say from here to eternity.
(03-07-2023, 10:38 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2023, 08:45 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]That's not news. We've seen that footage before.
Wow, now you've gone to directly lying for your Dem buddies. It's a shame how far you've fallen from "I'm a moderate Republican" to "I was really always just in the bag for the Dems."
It's literally the CNN talking points from last night. Just move on, it's nothing new, and he is just lying anyways. Meanwhile they don't actually show the videos.
I wonder what will be shown tonight. Most of what was shown was already out there but I guess the people only watching Foxnews may now know what really happened. I hope they show the barriers being removed, the timing of the speech where Trump supporters were still at the speech when this started and most of the people there were not regular people, etc.
It's unfortunate that we won't get to see the raw videos. They need to be released and let people start piecing them all together. I'm sure someone could link it all together and create a 3d virtual reality of it. Having over 40,000 hours means ~1,700 cameras recording for 24 hours. We know it only lasted for <12 hours so there were a ton of cameras involved. You know it had to be a setup.
I still don't know what to think of the bullhorn shaman guy. His past has him in BLM protests, some type of actor, former military, and then showing up at Trump rallies. Then he somehow gets inside (still unconfirmed) and is led around. Then takes a quick plea deal for the most serious charge. I could see him being an antifa member, a fed, an idiot that got roped into it, or just a Trump supporter.
(03-07-2023, 07:46 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2023, 02:35 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/16...2EJIQ&s=19
The big lie is starting to unravel..
How can you trust Tucker Carlson after the revelations in the Dominion lawsuit? Why do believe he's sincere in what he says now, when he hasn't been sincere in the past?
The same way you learn to trust any other news outlet that has been proved to have pushed a false narrative in the past and has either admitted it or has been exposed. Test first for veracity and if it seems accurate, then decide to trust it or not. They have all been caught in lies at one time or another.
(03-07-2023, 10:38 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2023, 08:45 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]That's not news. We've seen that footage before.
Wow, now you've gone to directly lying for your Dem buddies. It's a shame how far you've fallen from "I'm a moderate Republican" to "I was really always just in the bag for the Dems."
We've seen lots of video of the shaman walking around the Capitol with police around him. They were clearly trying to divert him and anyone following him and waste their time. Maybe there was a bit of enticement. Police are allowed to entice but not entrap. There have been allegations that undercover cops were there and crossing the line from enticing to entrapment, but, that's not what this "new" video shows at all.
We've also seen the footage of him in the Senate chamber praying before. What is new in this video that would change any reasonable person's opinion about anything?
(03-07-2023, 05:02 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2023, 10:38 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Wow, now you've gone to directly lying for your Dem buddies. It's a shame how far you've fallen from "I'm a moderate Republican" to "I was really always just in the bag for the Dems."
We've seen lots of video of the shaman walking around the Capitol with police around him. They were clearly trying to divert him and anyone following him and waste their time. Maybe there was a bit of enticement. Police are allowed to entice but not entrap. There have been allegations that undercover cops were there and crossing the line from enticing to entrapment, but, that's not what this "new" video shows at all.
We've also seen the footage of him in the Senate chamber praying before. What is new in this video that would change any reasonable person's opinion about anything.
They weren't following him, they were leading and walking with him. At one point the cop in front walks him through 8 or so cops and there was a signal given. If they wanted to steer him or stop him, that would have been easy to do it then.
What about the cop that supposedly was bashed in the head with a fire extinguisher and killed? He's seen on video after that supposedly happened walking fine, waving people in, etc. He died at home from a stroke a day or 2 later while sleeping (I think that was reported). What was his vax status or did he grow a conscience? Several capital cops have committed suicide since then.
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One good thing this has done is shown the uniparty. All the RINOs are openly complaining about this along with the Dems.
Will see if anything good is shown tonight but not expecting anything "new".
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(03-07-2023, 09:10 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]One good thing this has done is shown the uniparty. All the RINOs are openly complaining about this along with the Dems.
Will see if anything good is shown tonight but not expecting anything "new".
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The Schumer Monolog was worth it alone..
FOX and everyone caved. Tucker should have gone and aired video, calling their bluff. They wouldn't have pulled him off the air.
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(03-07-2023, 01:42 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Oh, but you see, Fox news has been discredited thoroughly by its competitors, so.... pretty sure we can discount everything they say from here to eternity.
It is hours and hours of footage, selectively edited by proven liar Tucker Carlson, intended to show what his viewers want it to show, in order to keep his ratings up. It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Tucker Carlson cares more about ratings than he cares about truth.
I watched the whole thing, live, as it occurred. It was the most horrifying thing I've seen in years. It was a mob who fought with police, battered their way into the Capitol, and tried to stop our government from functioning. Tucker Carlson is trying to whitewash the thing because all he cares about is money.
Tucker Carlson disappeared down the same rabbit hole of manufactured outrage as CNN and the other 24 hour news programming outlets. When they have to fill air time everyday with the latest political indignations, it becomes exhausting and self-defeating. I’m tired of the whole mess on the left and right.
(03-08-2023, 06:44 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2023, 01:42 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Oh, but you see, Fox news has been discredited thoroughly by its competitors, so.... pretty sure we can discount everything they say from here to eternity.
It is hours and hours of footage, selectively edited by proven liar Tucker Carlson, intended to show what his viewers want it to show, in order to keep his ratings up. It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Tucker Carlson cares more about ratings than he cares about truth.
I watched the whole thing, live, as it occurred. It was the most horrifying thing I've seen in years. It was a mob who fought with police, battered their way into the Capitol, and tried to stop our government from functioning. Tucker Carlson is trying to whitewash the thing because all he cares about is money.
You were there? Because unless you were physically present then you only saw what some producer wanted you to see. And if you were you still only saw what you could actually see within your line of sight. Basically you're taking it on faith, just like everyone else.
(03-08-2023, 09:44 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2023, 06:44 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]It is hours and hours of footage, selectively edited by proven liar Tucker Carlson, intended to show what his viewers want it to show, in order to keep his ratings up. It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Tucker Carlson cares more about ratings than he cares about truth.
I watched the whole thing, live, as it occurred. It was the most horrifying thing I've seen in years. It was a mob who fought with police, battered their way into the Capitol, and tried to stop our government from functioning. Tucker Carlson is trying to whitewash the thing because all he cares about is money.
You were there? Because unless you were physically present then you only saw what some producer wanted you to see. And if you were you still only saw what you could actually see within your line of sight. Basically you're taking it on faith, just like everyone else.
And you're taking it on faith that a known liar, Tucker Carlson, who in his own words is more concerned with ratings than the truth, has taken thousands of hours of footage and edited it down to a few minutes, and made a true, fair and balanced case? You have to be kidding me.
(03-08-2023, 10:10 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2023, 09:44 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]You were there? Because unless you were physically present then you only saw what some producer wanted you to see. And if you were you still only saw what you could actually see within your line of sight. Basically you're taking it on faith, just like everyone else.
And you're taking it on faith that a known liar, Tucker Carlson, who in his own words is more concerned with ratings than the truth, has taken thousands of hours of footage and edited it down to a few minutes, and made a true, fair and balanced case? You have to be kidding me.
Exactly, none of it is true. Hell, at this point it's only Eric85 posting here saying he was there that actually causes me to believe that there was even anyone in D.C. that day. They are all lying.
I believe Tucker Carlson over any Democrat in Congress.
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