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(05-29-2024, 09:51 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-29-2024, 06:30 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Dick Van Dyke makes a salient point. 

https://youtu.be/BLdaqYeg3Ts?si=x5DJlVyVrjgMi_vn

Everything on TV, every public event, every social media post, is trying to manipulate you, all the time.

What surprises Van Dyke is that the "courts are corrupt" storyline was dropped and then seemingly out of nowhere protests about the Middle East become the big deal, even though that war had been going on for months already.

I wonder why that surprised him so? Would the world have made more sense to him if the campus protesters were protesting the courts for letting Trump stay out of jail and on the ballot?

I suppose the media was hoping there might be protests at court houses and they were trying to make it happen.  Then it didn't happen.  Why is that surprising though? The media is not as effective as they used to be.  They don't have a monopoly on anyone's attention anymore, especially not the young.

Instead the protests start at elite universities against US Israel policy. Van Dyke says that's suspicious.  But I don't think it is.  I think the hard left Hamas-is-OK people were hopeful that other tactics would work.  They were hopeful that Biden would press for a ceasefire.  Then they thought the best way to influence Biden was by campaigning for "uncommitted" votes in the Democratic primary.  That didn't work.  Their sudden surge into campus protests is kind of a last gasp desperation move for a group that has little credibility with any Americans.

The only thing the media cares about is keeping your attention so you keep subscribing or keep watching ads.

And these left wingers that many assume conspire together, don't. There are many different opposing left wing agendas.

I agree with you on some of this. I still think the mainstream is bought and paid for by globalist idealists and billionaires though.

https://youtu.be/pOmXiapfCs8?si=1gtEk3OGQ2xldRJQ

Ideological subversion. This has been going on for decades and it was obvious to me as a teenager, young man, long before I knew this 1985 interview existed.

We all have enough common sense to this. It's the easiest way to keep your enemy off your back. Control the narrative, manipulate the masses and keep everybody at arms.

We lost this battle decades ago and we're still losing it now.

https://youtu.be/WPzJGltnCxU?si=hE2ntDNehBNErSB2

I want out of this country man if things don't change soon. Maybe get as far south as I can to avoid potential nuclear fallout that starts in the northern hemisphere.

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Democrats ploy to get biden out?

https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1...uSoPg&s=19

Hate Speech vs Free Speech.. 

(05-30-2024, 08:06 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Hate Speech vs Free Speech.. 

Ship em to Gaza for a few weeks.

Old Calvin and Hobbs Comic, but as far as I'm concerned, it describes the current generation in a nutshell...... Hits the nail right on the head..........

(05-30-2024, 08:06 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Hate Speech vs Free Speech.. 

You don't see any difference there?  

The guy burning the flag is burning his own flag.  He's allowed to do that.  The guy in the pickup truck is vandalizing something he does not own.

(05-30-2024, 09:24 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2024, 08:06 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Hate Speech vs Free Speech.. 

You don't see any difference there?  

The guy burning the flag is burning his own flag.  He's allowed to do that.  The guy in the pickup truck is vandalizing something he does not own.

Oh, you silly hopeless commie, lol.

(05-30-2024, 09:24 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2024, 08:06 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Hate Speech vs Free Speech.. 

You don't see any difference there?  

The guy burning the flag is burning his own flag.  He's allowed to do that.  The guy in the pickup truck is vandalizing something he does not own.

The fact that either is allowed is a fundamental problem with our country. However, have to side with the pick-up truck on the left. That was painted or grafted onto a road, tax payers pay for that. It was going to fade out to begin with. He's just speeding up the process. 

There's plenty of flags displayed throughout our country. Whether it's ours, the Isarel flag, the Pride flag, one of the 1,000,000 gender identifying flags or flags where American citizens may have recently immigrated from. For example, my wife, we have an American flag and a Bosnian flag in our household. 

Burning our flag or any flag really is just an odd practice. And, again, the fact that our laws and Government allows any of it, regardless of color or what the flag stands for, should bother all of us. I don't think there's anything wrong with having a sense of pride or hating your country. I don't think there's anything wrong with being a Nationalist or, a Globalist (For whatever wild reason that may be).

We should have more respect for one another. This type of behavior has become the breeding ground as to why this country cannot critically think as it's capable of. This is why we get lumped into thinking far left, left, center, right and far right. A house divided is a house that cannot stand nor survive.

We're being socially engineered to think and react emotionally by the upper echelon of well-to-do aristocrats running a Plutocracy under the guise of Democracy. It's time we have a talk with the Nation's landlords and lobbyist's driving this agenda and setting these narratives through our Government.

If not? We're [BLEEP] doomed.

(05-30-2024, 09:43 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2024, 09:24 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]You don't see any difference there?  

The guy burning the flag is burning his own flag.  He's allowed to do that.  The guy in the pickup truck is vandalizing something he does not own.

The fact that either is allowed is a fundamental problem with our country. However, have to side with the pick-up truck on the left. That was painted or grafted onto a road, tax payers pay for that. It was going to fade out to begin with. He's just speeding up the process. 

There's plenty of flags displayed throughout our country. Whether it's ours, the Isarel flag, the Pride flag, one of the 1,000,000 gender identifying flags or flags where American citizens may have recently immigrated from. For example, my wife, we have an American flag and a Bosnian flag in our household. 

Burning our flag or any flag really is just an odd practice. And, again, the fact that our laws and Government allows any of it, regardless of color or what the flag stands for, should bother all of us.

I don't endorse flag-burning.  For one thing, it's incredibly counter-productive.  But what I do endorse is the Constitution, which allows people to burn an American flag.  When it comes to the conflict between free speech and offending people, I side with free speech.

The only thing in this picture that gets to me is the way the end of the flag is a little tattered from being on the truck for an extended period. Other than that.... USA! USA! USA!

(05-30-2024, 09:43 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2024, 09:24 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]You don't see any difference there?  

The guy burning the flag is burning his own flag.  He's allowed to do that.  The guy in the pickup truck is vandalizing something he does not own.

The fact that either is allowed is a fundamental problem with our country. However, have to side with the pick-up truck on the left. That was painted or grafted onto a road, tax payers pay for that. It was going to fade out to begin with. He's just speeding up the process. 

There's plenty of flags displayed throughout our country. Whether it's ours, the Isarel flag, the Pride flag, one of the 1,000,000 gender identifying flags or flags where American citizens may have recently immigrated from. For example, my wife, we have an American flag and a Bosnian flag in our household. 

Burning our flag or any flag really is just an odd practice. And, again, the fact that our laws and Government allows any of it, regardless of color or what the flag stands for, should bother all of us.

Bingo.. Their local government wants to keep painting that flag on the road using tax dollars to push an agenda while giving a free pass to the people that hate this country and burn our Nation's Flag. Why? Because the people they elected ALSO hate this country..

Keep voting Democrat..

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(05-30-2024, 09:47 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2024, 09:43 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]The fact that either is allowed is a fundamental problem with our country. However, have to side with the pick-up truck on the left. That was painted or grafted onto a road, tax payers pay for that. It was going to fade out to begin with. He's just speeding up the process. 

There's plenty of flags displayed throughout our country. Whether it's ours, the Isarel flag, the Pride flag, one of the 1,000,000 gender identifying flags or flags where American citizens may have recently immigrated from. For example, my wife, we have an American flag and a Bosnian flag in our household. 

Burning our flag or any flag really is just an odd practice. And, again, the fact that our laws and Government allows any of it, regardless of color or what the flag stands for, should bother all of us.

I don't endorse flag-burning.  For one thing, it's incredibly counter-productive.  But what I do endorse is the Constitution, which allows people to burn an American flag.  When it comes to the conflict between free speech and offending people, I side with free speech.

If you value free speech then you should be alright with someone desecrating a painted flag on a public road, especially of a non-country that doesn't represent everyone.

(05-30-2024, 09:47 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2024, 09:43 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]The fact that either is allowed is a fundamental problem with our country. However, have to side with the pick-up truck on the left. That was painted or grafted onto a road, tax payers pay for that. It was going to fade out to begin with. He's just speeding up the process. 

There's plenty of flags displayed throughout our country. Whether it's ours, the Isarel flag, the Pride flag, one of the 1,000,000 gender identifying flags or flags where American citizens may have recently immigrated from. For example, my wife, we have an American flag and a Bosnian flag in our household. 

Burning our flag or any flag really is just an odd practice. And, again, the fact that our laws and Government allows any of it, regardless of color or what the flag stands for, should bother all of us.

I don't endorse flag-burning.  For one thing, it's incredibly counter-productive.  But what I do endorse is the Constitution, which allows people to burn an American flag.  When it comes to the conflict between free speech and offending people, I side with free speech.

Not minding it is endorsing it when it comes to this topic, commie.

(05-30-2024, 09:50 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2024, 09:43 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]The fact that either is allowed is a fundamental problem with our country. However, have to side with the pick-up truck on the left. That was painted or grafted onto a road, tax payers pay for that. It was going to fade out to begin with. He's just speeding up the process. 

There's plenty of flags displayed throughout our country. Whether it's ours, the Isarel flag, the Pride flag, one of the 1,000,000 gender identifying flags or flags where American citizens may have recently immigrated from. For example, my wife, we have an American flag and a Bosnian flag in our household. 

Burning our flag or any flag really is just an odd practice. And, again, the fact that our laws and Government allows any of it, regardless of color or what the flag stands for, should bother all of us.

Bingo.. Their local government wants to keep painting that flag on the road using tax dollars to push an agenda while giving a free pass to the people that hate this country and burn our Nation's Flag. Why? Because the people they elected ALSO hate this country..

Keep voting Democrat..

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(05-30-2024, 09:47 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]I don't endorse flag-burning.  For one thing, it's incredibly counter-productive.  But what I do endorse is the Constitution, which allows people to burn an American flag.  When it comes to the conflict between free speech and offending people, I side with free speech.

If you value free speech then you should be alright with someone desecrating a painted flag on a public road, especially of a non-country that doesn't represent everyone.

I already explained this.  What the driver did was vandalism.  He didn't own that painted flag.  If he had owned that painted flag, he could do doughnuts on it.  But it's not his.

(05-30-2024, 09:55 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2024, 09:47 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]I don't endorse flag-burning.  For one thing, it's incredibly counter-productive.  But what I do endorse is the Constitution, which allows people to burn an American flag.  When it comes to the conflict between free speech and offending people, I side with free speech.

Not minding it is endorsing it when it comes to this topic, commie.

I didn't say I didn't mind burning an American flag.  I said he has a Constitutional right to burn a flag, as long as it's one that he owns.  No one has a right to damage property they don't own, which is what the guy in the truck was doing. 

In the United States, you have a Constitutional right to burn a flag, or a Koran, or a Bible, or whatever, as long as you're not polluting the air we all breathe and as long as you own the thing you are burning.  Some countries don't allow things like that.  In some countries, you can be executed for desecrating a Koran.  I'm glad I live in the United States.

(05-30-2024, 10:08 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2024, 09:50 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Bingo.. Their local government wants to keep painting that flag on the road using tax dollars to push an agenda while giving a free pass to the people that hate this country and burn our Nation's Flag. Why? Because the people they elected ALSO hate this country..

Keep voting Democrat..

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If you value free speech then you should be alright with someone desecrating a painted flag on a public road, especially of a non-country that doesn't represent everyone.

I already explained this.  What the driver did was vandalism.  He didn't own that painted flag.  If he had owned that painted flag, he could do doughnuts on it.  But it's not his.

His tax dollars helped pay for it, he's part owner.

(05-30-2024, 10:13 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2024, 10:08 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]I already explained this.  What the driver did was vandalism.  He didn't own that painted flag.  If he had owned that painted flag, he could do doughnuts on it.  But it's not his.

His tax dollars helped pay for it, he's part owner.

Nice try.   He might own one millionth of it, but he doesn't own the whole thing.  He's vandalizing someone else's property.

(05-30-2024, 10:08 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2024, 09:50 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Bingo.. Their local government wants to keep painting that flag on the road using tax dollars to push an agenda while giving a free pass to the people that hate this country and burn our Nation's Flag. Why? Because the people they elected ALSO hate this country..

Keep voting Democrat..

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If you value free speech then you should be alright with someone desecrating a painted flag on a public road, especially of a non-country that doesn't represent everyone.

I already explained this.  What the driver did was vandalism.  He didn't own that painted flag.  If he had owned that painted flag, he could do doughnuts on it.  But it's not his.

Conversely the flag shouldn’t even be there.  It’s not the government’s job to endorse social issues.

(05-30-2024, 10:16 AM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2024, 10:08 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]I already explained this.  What the driver did was vandalism.  He didn't own that painted flag.  If he had owned that painted flag, he could do doughnuts on it.  But it's not his.

Conversely the flag shouldn’t even be there.  It’s not the government’s job to endorse social issues.

That's a valid point.   The government does a lot of things that they shouldn't be doing.

(05-30-2024, 10:15 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2024, 10:13 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]His tax dollars helped pay for it, he's part owner.

Nice try.   He might own one millionth of it, but he doesn't own the whole thing.  He's vandalizing someone else's property.

Who's property is it then? Maybe their local government should only charge the gay community for keeping that flag painted on a public street and not everyone in that local community. If his tax dollars helped pay for it, then he's just expressing his opinion for his purchase. 

I hope someone donuts the hell out of the next one too. Because they'll repaint again, using tax dollars which The People will soon get tired of and force these people out of office that are frivolously spending a budget meant for other more important line items. 

Not to mention the tax dollars being wasted on a man hunt for this Patriot.

The only way people learn is through pain. Physical, mental or financial.

It's the same reason why the democrats will lose this upcoming election. Pain..

(05-30-2024, 10:28 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2024, 10:15 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Nice try.   He might own one millionth of it, but he doesn't own the whole thing.  He's vandalizing someone else's property.

Who's property is it then? Maybe their local government should only charge the gay community for keeping that flag painted on a public street and not everyone in that local community. If his tax dollars helped pay for it, then he's just expressing his opinion for his purchase. 

I hope someone donuts the hell out of the next one too. Because they'll repaint again, using tax dollars which The People will soon get tired of and force these people out of office that are frivolously spending a budget meant for other more important line items. 

Not to mention the tax dollars being wasted on a man hunt for this Patriot.

The only way people learn is through pain. Physical, mental or financial.

It's the same reason why the democrats will lose this upcoming election. Pain..

Suppose someone applies to the local government for a permit to paint a temporary picture on the sidewalk.  Maybe the guy is an artist and he wants to paint a picture of the city, or a mountain, or anything.  He receives the permit and proceeds to do his painting on the sidewalk.  Now you come along, and you say, "I don't like this painting.  It offends me."  And you proceed to take out a can of spray paint and vandalize the sidewalk painting.  

Do you think you have a right to do that?