10-07-2023, 06:43 AM
(10-06-2023, 02:59 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ](10-06-2023, 10:25 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]First of all, let's start by agreeing that this wacko woman does not speak for the LGBTQ community, if there actually is one.
Secondly, is everyone supposed to scour the internet every day looking for things that are said by people who share some characteristic with us, and denounce those things, or else they will be accepted as our opinions? I'm a white male. No one speaks for me. I don't want anyone speaking for me. I'm an individual, with my own views on things. Just because I don't denounce some other white male's published views doesn't mean I agree with them. We should give LGBTQ people the same allowance.
To take the words of this one woman, and say "it tells us there's something wrong in the LGBTQ community," perfectly meets the definition of prejudice. Just as if some white guy said something on the internet, and some black guy said, wow, "this means there's something wrong in the white community."
And besides, when you start casting people into "communities" because they share some common characteristic, aren't you doing what we routinely denounce around here- identity politics? All gays think alike, all black people think alike, all white people think alike?
Seriously, which "prominent black" needs to come forward and condemn looting? You really think that that guy who justified looting represents some "black community?"
People are so gullible. Someone finds something stupid someone said, posts it to the internet, and says, "See? That's what were fighting against!" And so many people eat that stuff up, like sheep. Because it's so easy to play on people's fears. And they do it for money.
If I champion a cause and some nut job misrepresents said cause then damn straight skippy I am separating myself and my cause from them.
I find it telling that you don’t feel the same way when it comes to anything Trump.
So you are saying, "If you don't publicly disagree then you agree." Who has time for such a thing? Should everyone spend all day scouring the internet to find people who have misrepresented their cause? And then publish a rebuttal for every single one of them, in such a way that everyone will see that rebuttal? It's impossible, because there's a huge industry devoted to finding idiots to misrepresent things and publishing them. And it's unfair unless you apply that same standard to everyone else. If you see some black person saying something stupid, does that make you think all black people agree with that person? If some white male says something, anything, should everyone else think all white males think that?
I would say, "If you want my opinion as the so-called leader of this so-called movement, then ask me. No one else speaks for me."
If someone says, "Implementing the death penalty for child molesting is going to cause a lot of problems for LGBTQ people..." you should already know that is total bull [BLEEP]. Why do you need clarification from some self-appointed leader of some so-called "LGBTQ movement?"
I don't understand your point about Trump. But speaking of Trump, if we apply your standard of "If you don't publicly disagree then you agree," then when he says United States soldiers who died in wars are suckers, and losers, I guess you and all his other fans agree with him, since I haven't seen any Trump supporter disavow that view.