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(05-16-2023, 01:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-16-2023, 12:45 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]You're done..

And I have grandkids.. And I bet even they know you're full of [BLEEP] too..

How do you feel about them possibly seeing America experience a Civil War or a dictatorship in their lifetimes?

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(05-16-2023, 01:11 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]You're so gaslit. 

How about you just acknowledge that you were lied to by our intelligence agencies, the DNC, our entire media establishment in an attempt to maintain political power. Start by owning your own [BLEEP] for once. Just own it.

Someone lied to me, and it's my fault?
Why do you think everything is my fault?
The other day you wanted me to accept blame for TV shows that other people watch.

He didn’t say it was your fault. He only wants you to acknowledge the lies.

(05-16-2023, 01:37 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-16-2023, 01:33 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Out the door with ya!

Can someone help grampa find the "ignore" button?

You bought the lie and you helped facilitate it. You now own it with no returns.. You knew these MSM outlets were full of [BLEEP]. You understood it, you've acknowledged it, and you tried fertilizing people's minds with it..

Caveat Emptor..

(05-16-2023, 08:25 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...39652.html

A former aide to former Trump attorney Rudolph Giuliani says he told her the ex-New York City mayor and then-president Donald Trump were offering to sell presidential pardons for $2 million apiece, according to court documents.

$2 million for a pardon?  That's crazy.  I bought one on ebay for 50k.

This is the type of [BLEEP] that happens when you believe the news outlets over your own eyes..

(05-16-2023, 01:47 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-16-2023, 01:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]How do you feel about them possibly seeing America experience a Civil War or a dictatorship in their lifetimes?

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Someone lied to me, and it's my fault?
Why do you think everything is my fault?
The other day you wanted me to accept blame for TV shows that other people watch.

He didn’t say it was your fault. He only wants you to acknowledge the lies.

All sorts of people said all sorts of things about Trump and Russia that turned out to not be true.  But did any of them knowingly lie? All I ever said was there needed to be an independent investigation, and there was one. And now there have been 2.  What's the problem?

(05-16-2023, 02:13 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-16-2023, 01:47 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]He didn’t say it was your fault. He only wants you to acknowledge the lies.

All sorts of people said all sorts of things about Trump and Russia that turned out to not be true.  But did any of them knowingly lie? All I ever said was there needed to be an independent investigation, and there was one. And now there have been 2.  What's the problem?

The problem is the FBI, the CIA, the Executive Branch, and the MSM facilitated a lie created by a presidential candidate.

(05-16-2023, 02:13 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-16-2023, 01:47 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]He didn’t say it was your fault. He only wants you to acknowledge the lies.

All sorts of people said all sorts of things about Trump and Russia that turned out to not be true.  But did any of them knowingly lie? All I ever said was there needed to be an independent investigation, and there was one. And now there have been 2.  What's the problem?

Yes, [BLEEP]. Yes, they did knowingly lie. They fabricated the pee story. They fabricated the entire Russian collusion narrative. There was an investigation. The Mueller report concluded that Trump did not collude with Russia, and the Durham report one said Hillary's campaign, with the help of the FBI, CIA, DOJ, and knowingly pushed a false narrative with the help of the MSM. You want to pretend the MSM didn't know they were lying, go ahead, but own it. Own your willful naivety. You are useful for one thing: being used. At least you have the decency to double down on your ignorance. Marty's trying to play it off like he's a troll. Sure thing, Marty... we believe you.

Useful idiots. Until you acknowledge you are lied to consistently by an entire establishment, you will continue to be of use in facilitating disinformation. You will continue to prop up a corrupt system. The sad part is you can't acknowledge black and white evidence, because then you have to actually question other ways you have been manipulated, and you're all to full of ego to admit that you're just gullible. Own it.

(05-16-2023, 02:51 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-16-2023, 02:13 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]All sorts of people said all sorts of things about Trump and Russia that turned out to not be true.  But did any of them knowingly lie? All I ever said was there needed to be an independent investigation, and there was one. And now there have been 2.  What's the problem?

The problem is the FBI, the CIA, the Executive Branch, and the MSM facilitated a lie created by a presidential candidate.

Trump really did receive help from Russia.
There really was a Trump Tower meeting where the Trumps thought they were going to recieve "dirt" on Hillary from Russians.   These things turned out to be over-reported and exagerrated but that doesn't mean they didn't happen.   The FBI investigates based on probable cause.  They investigated Hillary too.

(05-16-2023, 01:31 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus, I throw a little red meat on the table, and you guys go nuts.  That was too easy.

Own it, Marty.

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(05-16-2023, 03:03 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-16-2023, 02:51 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]The problem is the FBI, the CIA, the Executive Branch, and the MSM facilitated a lie created by a presidential candidate.

Trump really did receive help from Russia.
There really was a Trump Tower meeting where the Trumps thought they were going to recieve "dirt" on Hillary from Russians.   These things turned out to be over-reported and exagerrated but that doesn't mean they didn't happen.   The FBI investigates based on probable cause.  They investigated Hillary too.

Lol. Get out of here with that [BLEEP]. Own it.

(05-16-2023, 03:02 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-16-2023, 02:13 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]All sorts of people said all sorts of things about Trump and Russia that turned out to not be true.  But did any of them knowingly lie? All I ever said was there needed to be an independent investigation, and there was one. And now there have been 2.  What's the problem?

Yes, [BLEEP]. Yes, they did knowingly lie. They fabricated the pee story. They fabricated the entire Russian collusion narrative. There was an investigation. The Mueller report concluded that Trump did not collude with Russia, and the Durham report one said Hillary's campaign, with the help of the FBI, CIA, DOJ, and knowingly pushed a false narrative with the help of the MSM. You want to pretend the MSM didn't know they were lying, go ahead, but own it. Own your willful naivety. You are useful for one thing: being used. At least you have the decency to double down on your ignorance. Marty's trying to play it off like he's a troll. Sure thing, Marty... we believe you.

Useful idiots. Until you acknowledge you are lied to consistently by an entire establishment, you will continue to be of use in facilitating disinformation. You will continue to prop up a corrupt system. The sad part is you can't acknowledge black and white evidence, because then you have to actually question other ways you have been manipulated, and you're all to full of ego to admit that you're just gullible. Own it.

Yes, I give people the benefit of the doubt when they present information that fits in with what I already know.  That's not the same thing as belief or gullibility, but, yes, bad people can exploit me this way.
And you do the same thing.  And you have been lied to and exploited also.
Where are Trump's tax returns?
Where's the wall?
Where's the great alternative to Obamacare?
Just a few more weeks, just wait a little longer...

Your cognitive dissonance won't allow you to accept any new information without creating red herrings. Own it in its full simplicity. You have been lied to by the establishment. You thought these institutions were credible, and they are not.

What other lies have you been told?

(05-16-2023, 03:03 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-16-2023, 02:51 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]The problem is the FBI, the CIA, the Executive Branch, and the MSM facilitated a lie created by a presidential candidate.

Trump really did receive help from Russia.
There really was a Trump Tower meeting where the Trumps thought they were going to recieve "dirt" on Hillary from Russians.   These things turned out to be over-reported and exagerrated but that doesn't mean they didn't happen.   The FBI investigates based on probable cause.  They investigated Hillary too.

Come on Mike, you have roasted Tucker Carlson for knowingly supporting the election fraud dispute.  Yet we have the FBI, the CIA, the DOJ, a sitting president, and nearly the entire MSM supporting a lie that they knew to be a lie that was fabricated by a presidential candidate and your response is “but Trump”. Stop being daft, you know they are not the same.

(05-16-2023, 05:03 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-16-2023, 03:03 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Trump really did receive help from Russia.
There really was a Trump Tower meeting where the Trumps thought they were going to recieve "dirt" on Hillary from Russians.   These things turned out to be over-reported and exagerrated but that doesn't mean they didn't happen.   The FBI investigates based on probable cause.  They investigated Hillary too.

Come on Mike, you have roasted Tucker Carlson for knowingly supporting the election fraud dispute.  Yet we have the FBI, the CIA, the DOJ, a sitting president, and nearly the entire MSM supporting a lie that they knew to be a lie that was fabricated by a presidential candidate and your response is “but Trump”. Stop being daft, you know they are not the same.

None of those people knew the information was false at the time.

Give it up, guys. As long as you see it for what it is, you don’t need an admission from either because you’ll never, ever get it. Move on and save your sanity.

Ha! Not a chance HB. They need to own this.

A man was just convicted a man in NY for a conspiracy against rights for making a meme about the election. The Mikey's and Marty's of the world allow this nonsense and instead prop up governmental corruption because they won't use their eyeballs. Every single person on this board should be calling out the people who continue to support our broken and corrupt government and the institutions that cover for it.

(05-16-2023, 05:16 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-16-2023, 05:03 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]Come on Mike, you have roasted Tucker Carlson for knowingly supporting the election fraud dispute.  Yet we have the FBI, the CIA, the DOJ, a sitting president, and nearly the entire MSM supporting a lie that they knew to be a lie that was fabricated by a presidential candidate and your response is “but Trump”. Stop being daft, you know they are not the same.

None of those people knew the information was false at the time.

Prove it. Prove they didn’t know.

(05-16-2023, 06:54 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-16-2023, 05:16 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]None of those people knew the information was false at the time.

Prove it. Prove they didn’t know.

So they are guilty until I prove them innocent?

Dominion (a private organization) sued Fox and subpoenaed Tucker Carlson's texts, and proved he knew he was telling lies.  We assumed Tucker was innocent, until we had evidence that he wasn't.  

We should assume all newscasters believe what they say, until we have evidence to the contrary.  

If all these folks are lying, and hurting Republicans and hurting Trump, why are none of them getting sued? 

Have you forgotten how many judges Trump appointed?

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(05-16-2023, 05:49 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Ha! Not a chance HB. They need to own this.

A man was just convicted a man in NY for a conspiracy against rights for making a meme about the election. The Mikey's and Marty's of the world allow this nonsense and instead prop up governmental corruption because they won't use their eyeballs. Every single person on this board should be calling out the people who continue to support our broken and corrupt government and the institutions that cover for it.

A prosecutor prosecuted a man, the judge held a trial, the man had defense counsel, and a jury agreed with the prosecutor that the man broke the law. 

But you're not mad at the prosecutor, the judge, or the jury.  You're mad at me because I "allow this nonsense."

I don't see you going up there and getting his record expunged.  Did you contribute to his legal expenses? Sounds like you "allow this nonsense" too.

Jacksonville unfortunately joins the list of Dem run cities with the election of the leather face, AKA Magda, Donna Deegan. I'm sure the Jags are not fans of that outcome.

(05-16-2023, 08:03 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]Jacksonville unfortunately joins the list of Dem run cities with the election of the leather face, AKA Magda, Donna Deegan. I'm sure the Jags are not fans of that outcome.

I moved out of Jax about 5 years ago.. I don't miss it.