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Today's Mallard Fillmore comic (4/6/2022) Just pointing out the obvious and why we should have listened to Trump way back when.......Those of you that suffered from TDS and voted for Biden..... I hope you're satisfied now.... Just look at waht you're putting the country through.....

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(03-23-2022, 02:11 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-23-2022, 01:29 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]*cough* *cough* monopoly *cough* *cough* *cooouuuggghhhhh*

I agree that if Twitter was a monopoly, the government should break them up. (Twitter is not a monopoly.  Facebook might be one).
I agree that if there was proven collusion or coordination between Twitter and its competitors, giving the same result as a monopoly, all involved should be punished.
Neither of these things has anything to do with Twitter's moderation or censorship.

Please Elon Musk, buy it and make it free for free speech again.
I've said it before but it's worth repeating. If you have Netflix you need to watch The Social Dilema. I rewatched it. I don't care who you are, if that [BLEEP] doesn't scare you there's something wrong with you. My friend is in the industry as well and it is a constant source of diuscussion and in no way overblown.

I can see it daily in this forum.
Give some examples, please.
(04-12-2022, 04:49 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]I've said it before but it's worth repeating.  If you have Netflix you need to watch The Social Dilema.  I rewatched it.  I don't care who you are, if that [BLEEP] doesn't scare you there's something wrong with you.  My friend is in the industry as well and it is a constant source of diuscussion and in no way overblown.

I can see it daily in this forum.

Freaked me out when I watched it.
Elon Musk has offered to buy Twitter.

He says if he can’t buy it then he will sell his stock. I would venture to guess he will create another platform if he does sell. 

Leftist heads must be exploding at the prospect of unfettered free speech.
Florida Rejects Publishers’ Attempts to Indoctrinate Students

I'm curious to see some examples of what was rejected. How is math politicized? I'm not saying it isn't possible but would love to see how it's done.


Tallahassee, Fla., April 15, 2022 – Today, Commissioner of Education Richard Corcoran approved Florida’s initial adoption list for mathematics instructional materials properly aligned to Florida’s Benchmarks for Excellent Student Thinking (B.E.S.T.) Standards. The approved list followed a thorough review of submissions at the Department, which found 41 percent of the submitted textbooks were impermissible with either Florida’s new standards or contained prohibited topics – the most in Florida’s history. Reasons for rejecting textbooks included references to Critical Race Theory (CRT), inclusions of Common Core, and the unsolicited addition of Social Emotional Learning (SEL) in mathematics. The highest number of books rejected were for grade levels K-5, where an alarming 71 percent were not appropriately aligned with Florida standards or included prohibited topics and unsolicited strategies. Despite rejecting 41 percent of materials submitted, every core mathematics course and grade is covered with at least one textbook.

Overall, Florida is initially not including 54 of the 132 (41 percent) submitted textbooks on the state’s adopted list. The full breakdown is below:

78 of 132 total submitted textbooks are being included on the state’s adopted list.
28 (21 percent) are not included on the adopted list because they incorporate prohibited topics or unsolicited strategies, including CRT.
12 (9 percent) are not included on the adopted list because they do not properly align to B.E.S.T. Standards.
14 (11 percent) are not included on the adopted list because they do not properly align to B.E.S.T. Standards and incorporate prohibited topics or unsolicited strategies, including CRT.
Grades K-5: 71 percent of materials were rejected.
Grades 6-8: 20 percent of materials were rejected.
Grades 9-12: 35 percent of materials were rejected.
“It seems that some publishers attempted to slap a coat of paint on an old house built on the foundation of Common Core, and indoctrinating concepts like race essentialism, especially, bizarrely, for elementary school students,” said Governor Ron DeSantis. “I’m grateful that Commissioner Corcoran and his team at the Department have conducted such a thorough vetting of these textbooks to ensure they comply with the law.”

“We’re going to ensure that Florida has the highest-quality instructional materials aligned to our nationally-recognized standards,” said Commissioner of Education Richard Corcoran. “Florida has become a national leader in education under the vision and leadership of Governor DeSantis. When it comes to education, other states continue to follow Florida’s lead as we continue to reinforce parents’ rights by focusing on providing their children with a world-class education without the fear of indoctrination or exposure to dangerous and divisive concepts in our classrooms.”

Florida’s transparent instructional materials review process ensures the public has the opportunity to review and comment on submitted textbooks. The instructional materials process allows Florida to prevent publishers from incorporating inappropriate, ineffective, or unsolicited concepts and strategies into instructional materials that will dilute the quality of Florida’s nationally-recognized education system.

In 2019, Governor DeSantis issued Executive Order 19-32 to set Florida on the path to eliminate Common Core, develop world-class education standards, and increase the quality of instructional materials, and this textbook adoption is another important step in affirming Florida’s commitment to high-quality, lawful and world class instruction.

In 2021, the Florida Department of Education (FDOE) called for bids from publishers to submit proposed mathematics instructional materials to be included on the state’s adopted list. Florida has been clear that instructional materials must first and foremost be aligned to Florida’s new B.E.S.T. Standards. In fact, FDOE proactively informed publishers in June 2021 that textbooks must align to the B.E.S.T. Standards, state laws regarding required instruction, and that they should not incorporate unsolicited strategies such as SEL in their instructional materials.

It is unfortunate that several publishers, especially at the elementary school grade levels, have ignored this clear communication and have attempted to slip rebranded instructional materials based on Common Core Standards into Florida’s classrooms, while others have included prohibited and divisive concepts such as the tenants of CRT or other unsolicited strategies of indoctrination – despite FDOE’s prior notification.

Although not included on the state’s initial adopted list, publishers have the ability to appeal any non-adoption decision. Publishers also have the ability to substitute or revise their submitted bids to be included on the state’s adopted list if the substitution or revision of submitted instructional materials ultimately meets Florida’s bid specifications.
(04-17-2022, 01:51 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Florida Rejects Publishers’ Attempts to Indoctrinate Students

I'm curious to see some examples of what was rejected. How is math politicized? I'm not saying it isn't possible but would love to see how it's done.


Tallahassee, Fla., April 15, 2022 – Today, Commissioner of Education Richard Corcoran approved Florida’s initial adoption list for mathematics instructional materials properly aligned to Florida’s Benchmarks for Excellent Student Thinking (B.E.S.T.) Standards. The approved list followed a thorough review of submissions at the Department, which found 41 percent of the submitted textbooks were impermissible with either Florida’s new standards or contained prohibited topics – the most in Florida’s history. Reasons for rejecting textbooks included references to Critical Race Theory (CRT), inclusions of Common Core, and the unsolicited addition of Social Emotional Learning (SEL) in mathematics. The highest number of books rejected were for grade levels K-5, where an alarming 71 percent were not appropriately aligned with Florida standards or included prohibited topics and unsolicited strategies. Despite rejecting 41 percent of materials submitted, every core mathematics course and grade is covered with at least one textbook.

Overall, Florida is initially not including 54 of the 132 (41 percent) submitted textbooks on the state’s adopted list. The full breakdown is below:

78 of 132 total submitted textbooks are being included on the state’s adopted list.
28 (21 percent) are not included on the adopted list because they incorporate prohibited topics or unsolicited strategies, including CRT.
12 (9 percent) are not included on the adopted list because they do not properly align to B.E.S.T. Standards.
14 (11 percent) are not included on the adopted list because they do not properly align to B.E.S.T. Standards and incorporate prohibited topics or unsolicited strategies, including CRT.
Grades K-5: 71 percent of materials were rejected.
Grades 6-8: 20 percent of materials were rejected.
Grades 9-12: 35 percent of materials were rejected.
“It seems that some publishers attempted to slap a coat of paint on an old house built on the foundation of Common Core, and indoctrinating concepts like race essentialism, especially, bizarrely, for elementary school students,” said Governor Ron DeSantis. “I’m grateful that Commissioner Corcoran and his team at the Department have conducted such a thorough vetting of these textbooks to ensure they comply with the law.”

“We’re going to ensure that Florida has the highest-quality instructional materials aligned to our nationally-recognized standards,” said Commissioner of Education Richard Corcoran. “Florida has become a national leader in education under the vision and leadership of Governor DeSantis. When it comes to education, other states continue to follow Florida’s lead as we continue to reinforce parents’ rights by focusing on providing their children with a world-class education without the fear of indoctrination or exposure to dangerous and divisive concepts in our classrooms.”

Florida’s transparent instructional materials review process ensures the public has the opportunity to review and comment on submitted textbooks. The instructional materials process allows Florida to prevent publishers from incorporating inappropriate, ineffective, or unsolicited concepts and strategies into instructional materials that will dilute the quality of Florida’s nationally-recognized education system.

In 2019, Governor DeSantis issued Executive Order 19-32 to set Florida on the path to eliminate Common Core, develop world-class education standards, and increase the quality of instructional materials, and this textbook adoption is another important step in affirming Florida’s commitment to high-quality, lawful and world class instruction.

In 2021, the Florida Department of Education (FDOE) called for bids from publishers to submit proposed mathematics instructional materials to be included on the state’s adopted list. Florida has been clear that instructional materials must first and foremost be aligned to Florida’s new B.E.S.T. Standards. In fact, FDOE proactively informed publishers in June 2021 that textbooks must align to the B.E.S.T. Standards, state laws regarding required instruction, and that they should not incorporate unsolicited strategies such as SEL in their instructional materials.

It is unfortunate that several publishers, especially at the elementary school grade levels, have ignored this clear communication and have attempted to slip rebranded instructional materials based on Common Core Standards into Florida’s classrooms, while others have included prohibited and divisive concepts such as the tenants of CRT or other unsolicited strategies of indoctrination – despite FDOE’s prior notification.

Although not included on the state’s initial adopted list, publishers have the ability to appeal any non-adoption decision. Publishers also have the ability to substitute or revise their submitted bids to be included on the state’s adopted list if the substitution or revision of submitted instructional materials ultimately meets Florida’s bid specifications.

This story has been out for a little while.  All the liberal websites don't seem to want any examples.  They're satisfied enough to outrage the folks who already think like them.  And the conservative websites are not doing any better. 
The textbook publishers will want examples, but it might not be in their interest to publish their correspondence with the government. 
You want examples.  I want examples.  
But I don't think any will be forthcoming.  
We don't have journalists anymore.
This is an old Bloom County Strip.... I think they captured the way that the liberal MSM works....... Stretching the truth to the extreme and damn the facts........

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Has anyone else watched the NewsNation channel? It bills itself as biased free news that's presented 'like it used to be'. I've been watching for three days, and I have to say they do a good job of avoiding partiality. They don't even do a 24-hour news cycle. From 10:00 AM to 5:00 PM reruns of Blue Bloods and some other show is aired.
(04-19-2022, 08:47 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Has anyone else watched the NewsNation channel? It bills itself as biased free news that's presented 'like it used to be'. I've been watching for three days, and I have to say they do a good job of avoiding partiality. They don't even do a 24-hour news cycle. From 10:00 AM to 5:00 PM reruns of Blue Bloods and some other show is aired.

They are pretty good at being even handed with coverage/opinion.
No Snowflakes here..... They help found a Country........

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(04-21-2022, 03:19 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]No Snowflakes here..... They help found a Country........

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Many of them also went on to wear really cool wigs.
Some of them got shot by others of them.
Maybe this is a solution to Biden's High Energy Prices..... His policies cause them so..........

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(04-21-2022, 05:46 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe this is a solution to Biden's High Energy Prices..... His policies cause them so..........

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Goats are awesome.   Whenever a prospect accepts a bid, I tell them thank you! And that their goat will be delivered the following week.
(04-21-2022, 03:19 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]No Snowflakes here..... They help found a Country........

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Monroe never had a job besides politician.  He was born rich.  The Marquis was also born rich. Maybe some of the others were. 
Anyhow there's a lot to praise the group for.  Most of them fought in the war.  But it doesn't make much sense to praise them as financially independent.
(04-21-2022, 07:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-21-2022, 03:19 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]No Snowflakes here..... They help found a Country........

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Monroe never had a job besides politician.  He was born rich.  The Marquis was also born rich. Maybe some of the others were. 
Anyhow there's a lot to praise the group for.  Most of them fought in the war.  But it doesn't make much sense to praise them as financially independent.

Trying to figure out what is wrong with you is like trying to figure out who shot JR.  sure, in the end, we all know the answer.  But the ride throughout is pretty nerve wracking and suspenseful. 

Dvr would have been helpful then, too.
(04-21-2022, 09:06 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-21-2022, 07:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Monroe never had a job besides politician.  He was born rich.  The Marquis was also born rich. Maybe some of the others were. 
Anyhow there's a lot to praise the group for.  Most of them fought in the war.  But it doesn't make much sense to praise them as financially independent.

Trying to figure out what is wrong with you is like trying to figure out who shot JR.  sure, in the end, we all know the answer.  But the ride throughout is pretty nerve wracking and suspenseful. 

Dvr would have been helpful then, too.

Laughing
(04-21-2022, 07:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-21-2022, 03:19 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]No Snowflakes here..... They help found a Country........

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Monroe never had a job besides politician.  He was born rich.  The Marquis was also born rich. Maybe some of the others were. 
Anyhow there's a lot to praise the group for.  Most of them fought in the war.  But it doesn't make much sense to praise them as financially independent.

Says they never had a job.

Goes on to say they all fought in the War.

Can't make this [BLEEP] up no matter how hard I hit it.