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(02-18-2024, 02:37 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-17-2024, 05:11 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]People are broken, dude. I don't know anybody that is 100% "normal." There is a huge difference between wanting to act like a woman or dress like a woman, knowing it's abnormal behavior, compared to believing you are literally a woman when you aren't. One of those is a mental disorder, the other is just typical human brokenness that has taken a peculiar form. I'm not here to judge. However, I do value truth, and I'm 100% against enabling fantasies that aren't rooted in reality.

Please give me a definitive definition of the word "normal"...... There is none........ What may seem "abnormal" to one, is perfectly normal behavior to another. One mans trash is another mans treasure, or so it has been said. Since I have never liked, nor have a followed the so called "Unwritten Rules" of society and what society considers the "norm", well........ I won't go into the psychology of things right now but...... if you ever have legitimate questions about this, please DM me and I'll be happy to answer things the best I can........

Gotta go with Drift on this one.. Normal is a frame of mind and can vary from person to person.

Mikesez thinks he's normal..

Case closed..
(02-18-2024, 02:41 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-18-2024, 02:37 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Please give me a definitive definition of the word "normal"...... There is none........ What may seem "abnormal" to one, is perfectly normal behavior to another. One mans trash is another mans treasure, or so it has been said. Since I have never liked, nor have a followed the so called "Unwritten Rules" of society and what society considers the "norm", well........ I won't go into the psychology of things right now but...... if you ever have legitimate questions about this, please DM me and I'll be happy to answer things the best I can........

Gotta go with Drift on this one.. Normal is a frame of mind and can vary from person to person.

Mikesez thinks he's normal..

Case closed..

Bruh, Mikesez thinks he's exceptional.
(02-18-2024, 02:37 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-17-2024, 05:11 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]People are broken, dude. I don't know anybody that is 100% "normal." There is a huge difference between wanting to act like a woman or dress like a woman, knowing it's abnormal behavior, compared to believing you are literally a woman when you aren't. One of those is a mental disorder, the other is just typical human brokenness that has taken a peculiar form. I'm not here to judge. However, I do value truth, and I'm 100% against enabling fantasies that aren't rooted in reality.

Please give me a definitive definition of the word "normal"...... There is none........ What may seem "abnormal" to one, is perfectly normal behavior to another. One mans trash is another mans treasure, or so it has been said. Since I have never liked, nor have a followed the so called "Unwritten Rules" of society and what society considers the "norm", well........ I won't go into the psychology of things right now but...... if you ever have legitimate questions about this, please DM me and I'll be happy to answer things the best I can........

Normal is easy to see, just look around at who does what in what numbers. Normal is the usual, customary, or expected. Men who dress like women are abnormal. Men who actually believe they are women are exceedingly abnormal to the point of mental illness.
(02-18-2024, 04:05 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-18-2024, 02:37 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Please give me a definitive definition of the word "normal"...... There is none........ What may seem "abnormal" to one, is perfectly normal behavior to another. One mans trash is another mans treasure, or so it has been said. Since I have never liked, nor have a followed the so called "Unwritten Rules" of society and what society considers the "norm", well........ I won't go into the psychology of things right now but...... if you ever have legitimate questions about this, please DM me and I'll be happy to answer things the best I can........

Normal is easy to see, just look around at who does what in what numbers. Normal is the usual, customary, or expected. Men who dress like women are abnormal. Men who actually believe they are women are exceedingly abnormal to the point of mental illness.

Sure, be a sheeple and follow the crowd, go ahead and live up to the crowds standards and expectation they have for everyone else (but not for themselves in a lot of cases). I did exactly that for too many years of my life. What did it get me? A lot of grief. I lost who I was inside.......... I lost who I was as an individual........ When I quit caring about what others thought.... that is true freedom...... This says it best.......I Am Not A Number, I Am A Free Man!
(02-18-2024, 04:17 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-18-2024, 04:05 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Normal is easy to see, just look around at who does what in what numbers. Normal is the usual, customary, or expected. Men who dress like women are abnormal. Men who actually believe they are women are exceedingly abnormal to the point of mental illness.

Sure, be a sheeple and follow the crowd, go ahead and live up to the crowds standards and expectation they have for everyone else (but not for themselves in a lot of cases). I did exactly that for too many years of my life. What did it get me? A lot of grief. I lost who I was inside.......... I lost who I was as an individual........ When I quit caring about what others thought.... that is true freedom...... This says it best.......I Am Not A Number, I Am A Free Man!

Nah bruh, you can do what you like but that doesn't make it normal or reason for self-righteousness. You've clearly had some trauma in your life that's led you to express yourself the way you do. Not just in your dress, but also in how you interact with others (assuming your IRL persona matches what's here). I don't judge, but to be judged for being normal isn't something I'm prepared to accept. You've never shown those tendencies and I don't expect such from you now. You're a deviation from the norm, I think you should be ok with it rather than castigate those who don't care about your deviation one way or the other.
Exploring the Statistics of Cross Dressing

Research suggests that the prevalence of cross dressing varies depending on the population studied and the definition of cross dressing applied. Some studies estimate that around 2-10% of the population engages in cross dressing to some extent. However, it is important to note that these figures may not capture the full diversity of cross dressers, as the secretive nature of the practice can make it difficult to obtain comprehensive data. Cross dressing is not limited to a specific gender or sexual orientation. Both men and women engage in cross dressing, and individuals of various sexual orientations can identify as cross dressers. This diversity highlights the importance of recognizing cross dressing as a multifaceted phenomenon that transcends traditional categories.

Furthermore, cross dressing can occur in different contexts. Some individuals may cross dress privately in the comfort of their own homes, while others may embrace their identity in public spaces by going out crossdressed. The extent to which cross dressers integrate their practice into their daily lives can vary, highlighting the individualized nature of their experiences.

https://www.glamourboutique.com/male-to-...ess-133973
(02-18-2024, 04:36 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Exploring the Statistics of Cross Dressing

Research suggests that the prevalence of cross dressing varies depending on the population studied and the definition of cross dressing applied. Some studies estimate that around 2-10% of the population engages in cross dressing to some extent. However, it is important to note that these figures may not capture the full diversity of cross dressers, as the secretive nature of the practice can make it difficult to obtain comprehensive data. Cross dressing is not limited to a specific gender or sexual orientation. Both men and women engage in cross dressing, and individuals of various sexual orientations can identify as cross dressers. This diversity highlights the importance of recognizing cross dressing as a multifaceted phenomenon that transcends traditional categories.

Furthermore, cross dressing can occur in different contexts. Some individuals may cross dress privately in the comfort of their own homes, while others may embrace their identity in public spaces by going out crossdressed. The extent to which cross dressers integrate their practice into their daily lives can vary, highlighting the individualized nature of their experiences.

https://www.glamourboutique.com/male-to-...ess-133973

I'm glad to see that we agree!
You don't need to take this personally, Drifter. Normal already has a definition: characterized by that which is considered usual, typical, or routine. I'm not making up new words. Normal is not synonymous with perfect, so you shouldn't be offended because I said you're not normal.

Nobody is 100% normal, just like I said. Everybody has some tendencies that deviate from the routine. Everyone. Left-handed people aren't "normal." It is more accepted than cross-dressing publicly. There's no shame involved, but we're now moving into a different argument. I'm sure we could destigmatize cross-dressing a little bit, but that's different than the trans movement, where men literally believe they are women (and vice versa) and expect other people to join them in that fantasy. That's not ok, imo. That's where it goes from a kink to a mental disorder.
Oh... and I'm happy to have the debate about what should and shouldn't be normalized, which is the intentional creation of norms. It's not like I'm a fan of cross dressing. However, the fundamental difference is that your preference is rooted in reality, which I can at least understand, even if I don't think it's ideal. That last part is subjective, and I'm open to debate that.
(02-18-2024, 03:58 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-18-2024, 02:41 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Gotta go with Drift on this one.. Normal is a frame of mind and can vary from person to person.

Mikesez thinks he's normal..

Case closed..

Bruh, Mikesez thinks he's exceptional.

Only because every paper they sent me home with in elementary school and middle school had that word on it...

Nowadays they just call it neurodivergent.

For what it's worth, the same therapists that tell me I'm "divergent" or "atypical" also insist that there's no such thing as "normal". The atypical traits are all common enough that any of us will meet many people who have them, so even if they're not traits most people have, they're still "normal." Only those once in a lifetime sociopathic or savant like traits are considered abnormal anymore.
(02-18-2024, 06:05 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Oh... and I'm happy to have the debate about what should and shouldn't be normalized, which is the intentional creation of norms. It's not like I'm a fan of cross dressing. However, the fundamental difference is that your preference is rooted in reality, which I can at least understand, even if I don't think it's ideal. That last part is subjective, and I'm open to debate that.

Don't worry Lucky, I take very few things personal anymore, you'd really would need to be attacking my family or real close friends of mine before I lose it. Yes I have triggers that I will take personal if someone it attacking me but, there are only 2 of them and only a few close friends know what they are and respect them.

Now, you say my preference is rooted in reality, which it is. I'm not trying to act like a woman nor am I identifying as one. I believe that biological men should not be permitted to take part in women's sport's. If they can't cut it in the men's division because they lack the skills to do, I say tough excrement!!!!! I do not involve kids in my lifestyle but, if someone is at an age, say like 16 and up, and has some questions or is unsure of who they really are inside and would like to talk, fine with me. I think people from the age of 16 should have the information they need on subject matter such as this so they can decide what it right for them. I mean, even if they decide later that it's not right for them, they can always turn back and take another fork in the road. (unless they already had the surgery then it's way to late.) I'd rather that someone has access to the information and be able to talk about it so they don't go off half cocked and then regret it later in life. That's just the way I feel about things.

Now as for myself, like I've said before, I'm just more comfortable in the attire that is usually found being worn by the female of the species. I am not ashamed, nor am I embarrassed by it. I'm comfortable and confident in my own skin to be who I am from the very depths of my soul. And if anyone has any legitimate questions for me, fine, let's talk. But on the flip side of the coin, if anyone has a personal problem with me being me, well,that's their problem and I'm sure as hell not going to make it mine.

Let me close this rant with one of my favorite quote that I've more or less been living by my entire life......

“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”

Hunter S Thompson, The ultimate gonzo journalist!!!!!!
Nice little read..

https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/17...XdKRA&s=19

"Nearly 13,000 people who commented on just one of my posts said they were not bothered by Judge Arthur Engoron's ruling against Trump in New York last week. Trump is also raising more money, and his rallies are getting bigger. It's becoming crystal clear that he will likely become the Republican nominee in 2024.

Many of the court cases are also falling apart. The one in DC is delayed indefinitely. The only one in Georgia has been rocked by scandals and will likely be delayed. The one in Florida is being delayed, and the Democrats want the judge to be removed. The one in New York lacks substance; it's about a sex worker and money paid by Trump's lawyer years ago, and most people are wondering what it's all about. None of these cases will likely stop Trump or even be decided before the election, and Trump can always appeal.

With the court cases falling apart and Trump's primary opponent losing ground, DC is playing the Putin card. In a speech in South Carolina, Trump reemphasized that Europe must invest more in NATO and not let only the US foot the bill to protect Europe. That was his core message; anything else was a distraction.

However, that speech has been used by Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, President Biden, and many other Democrats to paint Trump as a Putin stooge, someone who hates the United States, someone too dangerous to return to power. The Russia narrative is being revived, and you will hear more about Russia in the coming days.

But the Democrats have a problem. Trump was in power for four years, he started no new wars, Russia did not invade any nation, and America was respected again abroad. Trying to paint Trump as a Putin stooge may not resonate with the voters. Yet, you will hear more and more about Russia, Russia, Russia in the coming days and weeks as it becomes clear that Trump is the nominee."
(02-19-2024, 11:43 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-18-2024, 06:05 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Oh... and I'm happy to have the debate about what should and shouldn't be normalized, which is the intentional creation of norms. It's not like I'm a fan of cross dressing. However, the fundamental difference is that your preference is rooted in reality, which I can at least understand, even if I don't think it's ideal. That last part is subjective, and I'm open to debate that.

Don't worry Lucky, I take very few things personal anymore, you'd really would need to be attacking my family or real close friends of mine before I lose it. Yes I have triggers that I will take personal if someone it attacking me but, there are only 2 of them and only a few close friends know what they are and respect them.

Now, you say my preference is rooted in reality, which it is. I'm not trying to act like a woman nor am I identifying as one. I believe that biological men should not be permitted to take part in women's sport's. If they can't cut it in the men's division because they lack the skills to do, I say tough excrement!!!!! I do not involve kids in my lifestyle but, if someone is at an age, say like 16 and up, and has some questions or is unsure of who they really are inside and would like to talk, fine with me. I think people from the age of 16 should have the information they need on subject matter such as this so they can decide what it right for them. I mean, even if they decide later that it's not right for them, they can always turn back and take another fork in the road. (unless they already had the surgery then it's way to late.) I'd rather that someone has access to the information and be able to talk about it so they don't go off half cocked and then regret it later in life. That's just the way I feel about things.

Now as for myself, like I've said before, I'm just more comfortable in the attire that is usually found being worn by the female of the species. I am not ashamed, nor am I embarrassed by it. I'm comfortable and confident in my own skin to be who I am from the very depths of my soul. And if anyone has any legitimate questions for me, fine, let's talk. But on the flip side of the coin, if anyone has a personal problem with me being me, well,that's their problem and I'm sure as hell not going to make it mine.

Let me close this rant with one of my favorite quote that I've more or less been living by my entire life......

“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”

Hunter S Thompson, The ultimate gonzo journalist!!!!!!

I said the same things both time... cross dressing is an abnormal behavior, but it's rooted in reality. You know you're a man that prefers dressing as a woman. Someone might disagree with your preference, but we are at least having a conversation about the same things. 

The trans movement is not rooted in reality. When you start denying observable, probable phenomenon and start demanding society career to your fantasies, that's where I draw the line. 

The older I get, the less I judge. We're all weird and broken in one way or another. You do you, man. Cross dressing is as old as time. I personally don't think it's ideal, but I'm not a person that says another person can't do something. 

The whole point of my original post was to draw a line between personal preference in choosing to take on certain characteristics (like cross dressing) and genuinely believing something that isn't true (the trans movement). I'm not really sure you and I are arguing different points here.
(02-19-2024, 05:43 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/LeadingReport/status...lJjoQ&s=19
All you have to do is get rid of the communist and any country could do it.

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Is she dropping out and re-entering as a Democrat or dropping out completely?

Place your bets!!

https://twitter.com/TheCalvinCooli1/stat...sRW4w&s=19
(02-20-2024, 10:30 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1...amfgA&s=19

I guess if it doesn't fit an agenda then they follow the 'rules'.