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McConaughey does okay with a prepared stage and statement. Let’s see how he does in a free for all debate. I’m thinking not so well.
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If they weren't hard core leftist, I have to wonder if this would have happened........

Disgraceful: Leftist Fire Bombers Get Almost 97% Sentence Cut Under Biden Admin

New York City attorneys Colinford Mattis and Urooj Rahman were arrested for tossing a Molotov cocktail into a parked police car in Brooklyn on May 30, 2020, during the riots that swept the country following the death of George Floyd, which had occurred five days earlier.

https://www.westernjournal.com/disgracef...bomUM_VyeM
(06-09-2022, 04:10 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]If they weren't hard core leftist, I have to wonder if this would have happened........

Disgraceful: Leftist Fire Bombers Get Almost 97% Sentence Cut Under Biden Admin

New York City attorneys Colinford Mattis and Urooj Rahman were arrested for tossing a Molotov cocktail into a parked police car in Brooklyn on May 30, 2020, during the riots that swept the country following the death of George Floyd, which had occurred five days earlier.

https://www.westernjournal.com/disgracef...bomUM_VyeM

What do you think professor?
(06-09-2022, 04:57 PM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-09-2022, 04:10 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]If they weren't hard core leftist, I have to wonder if this would have happened........

Disgraceful: Leftist Fire Bombers Get Almost 97% Sentence Cut Under Biden Admin

New York City attorneys Colinford Mattis and Urooj Rahman were arrested for tossing a Molotov cocktail into a parked police car in Brooklyn on May 30, 2020, during the riots that swept the country following the death of George Floyd, which had occurred five days earlier.

https://www.westernjournal.com/disgracef...bomUM_VyeM

What do you think professor?

More importantly, shouldntn't we ban assault 750s?
(06-09-2022, 03:30 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-09-2022, 02:52 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know who those other people are but Matthew McConaughey actually had a solid reason for being there and spoke very well.

LOL..... NO, Screw that guy, he is a freaking ACTOR. I don't give a flip what he thinks.

Watch his speech and then come back and talk [BLEEP]. He's an actor-  it doesn't make him stupid.
Regan was an actor..
Jack Der Rio under attack for speaking the truth. Now he'll learn that bowing the knee only makes it worse.
(06-10-2022, 06:52 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Jack Der Rio under attack for speaking the truth. Now he'll learn that bowing the knee only makes it worse.

Links matter.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/3406...ion-dustup
(06-10-2022, 07:22 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2022, 06:52 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Jack Der Rio under attack for speaking the truth. Now he'll learn that bowing the knee only makes it worse.

Links matter.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/3406...ion-dustup

Such a tired argument.
Even if you grant the point that the summer 2020 protests were just as serious as the 2021 insurrection, they're both wrong.  That would just mean there should be more prosecution of the leaders of the 2020 protests, not that there should be less prosecution of the insurrection.
(06-10-2022, 07:38 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2022, 07:22 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Links matter.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/3406...ion-dustup

Such a tired argument.
Even if you grant the point that the summer 2020 protests were just as serious as the 2021 insurrection, they're both wrong.  That would just mean there should be more prosecution of the leaders of the 2020 protests, not that there should be less prosecution of the insurrection.

His point is that the scope of the BLM riots was far greater and more damaging than the Federal Agent-initiated violence at the Capital yet most of the BLM "activists" were let off scot-free and Congress couldn't be bothered to stage a Witch Hunt hearing to address those actual riots but can find time to persecute the overwhelmingly peaceful demonstrators from the D.C. event. And he's right to point out the disparity in treatment between the left's prized criminals and the American Patriots of January 6th. But you know that already Capt. Contrarian.
Jack Del Rio has always been a piece of crap. When things weren't going well during his stint in Jacksonville, he placed the blame on everyone but himself. His political views are not at all surprising. He only apologized for his "dust up" comment to save his job, even though Daniel Snyder must have loved what Del Rio said.
(06-10-2022, 10:37 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2022, 07:38 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Such a tired argument.
Even if you grant the point that the summer 2020 protests were just as serious as the 2021 insurrection, they're both wrong.  That would just mean there should be more prosecution of the leaders of the 2020 protests, not that there should be less prosecution of the insurrection.

His point is that the scope of the BLM riots was far greater and more damaging than the Federal Agent-initiated violence at the Capital yet most of the BLM "activists" were let off scot-free and Congress couldn't be bothered to stage a Witch Hunt hearing to address those actual riots but can find time to persecute the overwhelmingly peaceful demonstrators from the D.C. event. And he's right to point out the disparity in treatment between the left's prized criminals and the American Patriots of January 6th. But you know that already Capt. Contrarian.

A breach by a mob determined to attack the Vice President and the Speaker of the House was, in your mind, less serious than earlier riots in other cities? Were any judges or other local officials harmed or threatened with harm by any of those riots?
You say the US congress should hold hearings on these other protests, but not on the one where Congress itself was attacked?
And I'm the contrarian?
(06-10-2022, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2022, 10:37 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]His point is that the scope of the BLM riots was far greater and more damaging than the Federal Agent-initiated violence at the Capital yet most of the BLM "activists" were let off scot-free and Congress couldn't be bothered to stage a Witch Hunt hearing to address those actual riots but can find time to persecute the overwhelmingly peaceful demonstrators from the D.C. event. And he's right to point out the disparity in treatment between the left's prized criminals and the American Patriots of January 6th. But you know that already Capt. Contrarian.

A breach by a mob determined to attack the Vice President and the Speaker of the House was, in your mind, less serious than earlier riots in other cities? Were any judges or other local officials harmed or threatened with harm by any of those riots?
You say the US congress should hold hearings on these other protests, but not on the one where Congress itself was attacked?
And I'm the contrarian?
The mob that "breached" was let in and did not breach anything. The "mob" was also full of feds and antifa to setup the rest of the people that were peaceful.

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(06-10-2022, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2022, 10:37 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]His point is that the scope of the BLM riots was far greater and more damaging than the Federal Agent-initiated violence at the Capital yet most of the BLM "activists" were let off scot-free and Congress couldn't be bothered to stage a Witch Hunt hearing to address those actual riots but can find time to persecute the overwhelmingly peaceful demonstrators from the D.C. event. And he's right to point out the disparity in treatment between the left's prized criminals and the American Patriots of January 6th. But you know that already Capt. Contrarian.

A breach by a mob determined to attack the Vice President and the Speaker of the House was, in your mind, less serious than earlier riots in other cities? Were any judges or other local officials harmed or threatened with harm by any of those riots?
You say the US congress should hold hearings on these other protests, but not on the one where Congress itself was attacked?
And I'm the contrarian?

For a self proclaimed Republican who always sides with the kept you're either gullible, ignorant, lying, or an intentional contrarian. Likely all four I guess.

(06-10-2022, 05:38 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2022, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]A breach by a mob determined to attack the Vice President and the Speaker of the House was, in your mind, less serious than earlier riots in other cities? Were any judges or other local officials harmed or threatened with harm by any of those riots?
You say the US congress should hold hearings on these other protests, but not on the one where Congress itself was attacked?
And I'm the contrarian?
The mob that "breached" was let in and did not breach anything. The "mob" was also full of feds and antifa to setup the rest of the people that were peaceful.

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How dare you believe an unauthorized narrative!
^^^^ You haven't figured that out yet?
(06-10-2022, 07:38 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2022, 07:22 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Links matter.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/3406...ion-dustup

Such a tired argument.
Even if you grant the point that the summer 2020 protests were just as serious as the 2021 insurrection, they're both wrong.  That would just mean there should be more prosecution of the leaders of the 2020 protests, not that there should be less prosecution of the insurrection.

Let me explain this to you for the nth time.  An insurrection is the overthrow (or attempt to overthrow) a government and seizure of power with a new government.  What new form of government were the insurrectionists seeking to install?  Socialist?  Communist?  Dictatorship?  Was there to be a Senate or a House of Representatives in the new regime?  Were state boundaries to be eliminated? 
 
You've repeatedly insisted the "insurrectionists" were attempting to prevent a process of government from occurring, which defeats your own argument.  A true insurrection doesn't recognize the validity of the existing government, it denies it.  It says, "That's not your government anymore, this is your government now."  

The most you can say about Jan. 6th is that some individuals attempted to obstruct the operation of government.  That's a serious charge, but not remotely as serious as insurrection.  It's quite possible some went there with the intention of obstruction.  I think the vast majority just got caught up in the excitement and acted stupidly.
(06-10-2022, 05:38 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2022, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]A breach by a mob determined to attack the Vice President and the Speaker of the House was, in your mind, less serious than earlier riots in other cities? Were any judges or other local officials harmed or threatened with harm by any of those riots?
You say the US congress should hold hearings on these other protests, but not on the one where Congress itself was attacked?
And I'm the contrarian?
The mob that "breached" was let in and did not breach anything. The "mob" was also full of feds and antifa to setup the rest of the people that were peaceful.

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They literally showed, last night, the timestamped sequenced videos of people pushing through barricades and breaking windows.
People weren't "let in" until a lot of violence had already taken place. 
The committee says they've identified the people who pushed through and broke windows.
(06-10-2022, 08:37 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2022, 05:38 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]The mob that "breached" was let in and did not breach anything. The "mob" was also full of feds and antifa to setup the rest of the people that were peaceful.

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They literally showed, last night, the timestamped sequenced videos of people pushing through barricades and breaking windows.
People weren't "let in" until a lot of violence had already taken place. 
The committee says they've identified the people who pushed through and broke windows.

I'm sure our government can't possibly create fake timestamps. That's almost like sorcery to them.
(06-10-2022, 08:37 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2022, 05:38 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]The mob that "breached" was let in and did not breach anything. The "mob" was also full of feds and antifa to setup the rest of the people that were peaceful.

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They literally showed, last night, the timestamped sequenced videos of people pushing through barricades and breaking windows.
People weren't "let in" until a lot of violence had already taken place. 
The committee says they've identified the people who pushed through and broke windows.
There are documented timelines that show what happened and when. You need to go read them, they show the feds and antifa leading the efforts to get people inside. The barriers were removed that blocked the perimeter by fed, then he tries to get people to comes inside. Police could have stopped it but didn't. Then people start filling in, Police move backwards some. Goes on like this for a while. Then the cops remove other barriers to get more people to come up close.

The doors didn't even need to be opened. Nothing was going to happen, just look at all the other rallies for Trump. People weren't violent and didn't attack police. Nothing was destroyed in the building, everything was relatively calm. You saw the violence either coming from the cops and some people responding. The instigators also got involved and tried to create he reaction so it would blow up.




I'll find the timing funny if on Monday the SC releases their ruling and the left starts a real insurrection while the fake committee is having another hearing.

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