(07-24-2024, 12:30 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]In pat Summerall, voice, the momentum is shifting……
Temporarily because the left is having a relief orgasm since they ditched Meat Puppet and have a paragon of DEI as their candidate.
Now, if Democrats do the smart thing and keep Kamala from talking, they stand a decent chance of winning.
(07-24-2024, 12:45 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 12:30 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]In pat Summerall, voice, the momentum is shifting……
Temporarily because the left is having a relief orgasm since they ditched Meat Puppet and have a paragon of DEI as their candidate.
Now, if Democrats do the smart thing and keep Kamala from talking, they stand a decent chance of winning.
That and try to get people to forget that the border czar who is responsible for our extremely secure border is now at the top of the ticket. You can't make this stuff up. This was one very public responsibility she was tasked with during the past 4 years. How did she do?
https://twitter.com/MarinelaPavleti/stat...0374024198
Let me add that if you predicted and posed the timeline of events that we've currently witnessed since the debate to Democrats in advance six months ago, they would have [BLEEP] their pants at the prospect of it playing out this way. That leads me to believe that the jubilation we're being told is happening on the left is either faux or manufactured by their allies in the press or likely a combination of both. That said, I am aware that 35 to possibly 45% of all voters are voting Dem no matter what just as there is probably a similar range on the right for Republicans. It's the 10 to 20% in the middle that will decide things. If they have a functioning brain, no way they pull the lever for Harris on election day, though my confidence in the electorate isn't what it used to be I'll grant you that. It would be restored to some extent with a landslide victory in Trump's favor which should happen when you look at the totality of the situation. I guess we'll see.
(07-24-2024, 10:52 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 10:42 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Dude neither Biden or Kamela decided not to even meet him while he was here. That is until it became public Trump was going to meet him. One of the first duties of the executive branch in the constitution is to receive all heads of state from other countries. (minus 1)
I am an independent and deciding how to vote. I believe in the political color coding arena that makes me green. Dems are blue and Rep red. I get to keep score that way I want. Not you.
Deciding not to meet with him at all, when you are the President, is a slight. Biden should meet with a visiting head of government. Choosing not to indicates disrespect on some level.
We know Biden wants Netanyahu to step down and hold new elections. He hasn't been shy about it. Doesn't make him anti-Semitic any more than refusing to meet with Gaddafi made Obama anti-Arab.
What the heck, it was a good attempt at misdirection there. LOL ? I am talking about the job of the executive branch define by the constitution. Biden has covid so he gets a pass. It then falls to the VP. Now, can Harris do the job, is it she can't, is she refusing?
And yes Obama gets a minus one for that, just like Kamela gets one for this.
(07-24-2024, 02:21 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 10:52 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Deciding not to meet with him at all, when you are the President, is a slight. Biden should meet with a visiting head of government. Choosing not to indicates disrespect on some level.
We know Biden wants Netanyahu to step down and hold new elections. He hasn't been shy about it. Doesn't make him anti-Semitic any more than refusing to meet with Gaddafi made Obama anti-Arab.
What the heck, it was a good attempt at misdirection there. LOL ? I am talking about the job of the executive branch define by the constitution. Biden has covid so he gets a pass. It then falls to the VP. Now, can Harris do the job, is it she can't, is she refusing?
And yes Obama gets a minus one for that, just like Kamela gets one for this.
Sorry, I have my history backwards. Obama did meet with Gaddafi and shook his hand in 2009 but they were in Italy . He was the only President to ever meet with Gaddafi in the 40 years that Gaddafi was President. Gaddafi came to the US to speak at the UN general Assembly the same year, and I believe that was the only time Gaddafi ever set foot in the US.
The point I'm trying to make is that world leaders come to the US all the time without meeting the President. I thought Gaddafi was an example but I was mistaken. I'm sure there are many other examples but I'm not going to research them.
(07-24-2024, 02:35 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 02:21 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]What the heck, it was a good attempt at misdirection there. LOL ? I am talking about the job of the executive branch define by the constitution. Biden has covid so he gets a pass. It then falls to the VP. Now, can Harris do the job, is it she can't, is she refusing?
And yes Obama gets a minus one for that, just like Kamela gets one for this.
Sorry, I have my history backwards. Obama did meet with Gaddafi and shook his hand in 2009 but they were in Italy . He was the only President to ever meet with Gaddafi in the 40 years that Gaddafi was President. Gaddafi came to the US to speak at the UN general Assembly the same year, and I believe that was the only time Gaddafi ever set foot in the US.
The point I'm trying to make is that world leaders come to the US all the time without meeting the President. I thought Gaddafi was an example but I was mistaken. I'm sure there are many other examples but I'm not going to research them.
I think normally, if a foreign leader wants to meet with the President in the White House, there's some lower level diplomatic conversation, and, if the President wants to do it, an invitation is extended.
This one with Netanyahu is kind of awkward because he wasn't invited by the President. He was invited by the Congress. I think most Presidents would not want Congress to send out White House invitations. And it seems kind of insulting to the President to demand that he clear his schedule for an uninvited guest.
(07-24-2024, 02:35 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 02:21 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]What the heck, it was a good attempt at misdirection there. LOL ? I am talking about the job of the executive branch define by the constitution. Biden has covid so he gets a pass. It then falls to the VP. Now, can Harris do the job, is it she can't, is she refusing?
And yes Obama gets a minus one for that, just like Kamela gets one for this.
Sorry, I have my history backwards. Obama did meet with Gaddafi and shook his hand in 2009 but they were in Italy . He was the only President to ever meet with Gaddafi in the 40 years that Gaddafi was President. Gaddafi came to the US to speak at the UN general Assembly the same year, and I believe that was the only time Gaddafi ever set foot in the US.
The point I'm trying to make is that world leaders come to the US all the time without meeting the President. I thought Gaddafi was an example but I was mistaken. I'm sure there are many other examples but I'm not going to research them.
I knew that, but it wasn't worth worrying about.
As for Libya, take this as a read. Probably Obama's biggest mistake. Remember that was the time Hillary left our diplomats out to dry in Benghazi.
https://moguldom.com/300173/10-things-to...-in-libya/
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/20...fused-sec/
Amazing this is almost the same as the Secret Service and Trump's security...
(07-24-2024, 03:02 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 02:35 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry, I have my history backwards. Obama did meet with Gaddafi and shook his hand in 2009 but they were in Italy . He was the only President to ever meet with Gaddafi in the 40 years that Gaddafi was President. Gaddafi came to the US to speak at the UN general Assembly the same year, and I believe that was the only time Gaddafi ever set foot in the US.
The point I'm trying to make is that world leaders come to the US all the time without meeting the President. I thought Gaddafi was an example but I was mistaken. I'm sure there are many other examples but I'm not going to research them.
I knew that, but it wasn't worth worrying about.
As for Libya, take this as a read. Probably Obama's biggest mistake. Remember that was the time Hillary left our diplomats out to dry in Benghazi.
https://moguldom.com/300173/10-things-to...-in-libya/
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/20...fused-sec/
Amazing this is almost the same as the Secret Service and Trump's security...
It's besides the point. But since you mentioned it, I think Obama (and the leaders of Britain and France) were right to use air power to spare Benghazi from destruction by Gaddafi's mercenaries. I think Obama was right to regret how poorly prepared they were for the aftermath. No one ever mentions what better options were ever on the table. There probably weren't any.
(07-24-2024, 04:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 03:02 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]I knew that, but it wasn't worth worrying about.
As for Libya, take this as a read. Probably Obama's biggest mistake. Remember that was the time Hillary left our diplomats out to dry in Benghazi.
https://moguldom.com/300173/10-things-to...-in-libya/
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/20...fused-sec/
Amazing this is almost the same as the Secret Service and Trump's security...
It's besides the point. But since you mentioned it, I think Obama (and the leaders of Britain and France) were right to use air power to spare Benghazi from destruction by Gaddafi's mercenaries. I think Obama was right to regret how poorly prepared they were for the aftermath. No one ever mentions what better options were ever on the table. There probably weren't any.
Actually you are the one who brought it up, not me.
(07-24-2024, 01:29 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 12:51 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.instagram.com/p/C9z1rZLiNt7/...OW5sY28ycQ==
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Did "mindsetoftherich" just make that up, or is there some source for confirmation of such a wild claim?
Did you "swipe"? It's straight from the horse's mouth.
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(07-24-2024, 05:51 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 01:29 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Did "mindsetoftherich" just make that up, or is there some source for confirmation of such a wild claim?
Did you "swipe"? It's straight from the horse's mouth.
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What the video says is that the equipment sent to Ukraine was overvalued because they used replacement cost instead of net book value.
So, it is not the case that they "paid Zelensky an extra $6.2 billion." They actually sent him less equipment than they were authorized to send. Which is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what "mindsetoftherich" said.
Apparently, "minsetoftherich" is a total [BLEEP] idiot.
(07-24-2024, 06:09 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2024, 05:51 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Did you "swipe"? It's straight from the horse's mouth.
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What the video says is that the equipment sent to Ukraine was overvalued because they used replacement cost instead of net book value.
So, it is not the case that they "paid Zelensky an extra $6.2 billion." They actually sent him less equipment than they were authorized to send. Which is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what "mindsetoftherich" said.
Apparently, "minsetoftherich" is a total [BLEEP] idiot.
It's over a year old. There's plenty of articles, videos on this.
https://youtu.be/_J2SUKAz8sU?si=GYKI_12ylgWKbCdk
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pentago...023-06-20/
https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russi...b1973a44ef
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(07-24-2024, 05:21 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.instagram.com/reel/C90Y9fISh...TVhNWYzZmE=
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Noticed it late last night. They say these things because that is how THEY think. Everything about them is viewed through race and sex first. Content of the individual is way down the line.