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(04-12-2023, 11:46 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-12-2023, 10:43 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone watch Trump's speech on Tucker last night?

Great speech and I agree with him 100%.. Our greatest enemy isn't China or Russia, it's from within our own country. I've thought the same for the last few years.

Who are the enemies in our own country?

Might I recommend this excellent book that will answer your question with copious notes.

https://www.amazon.com/Hoodwinked-Intell...1595552863



Just one tiny little preview for you:

"The white race is the cancer of human history. It is the white race, and it alone - its ideologies and inventions - which eradicates autonomous civilizations wherever it spreads, which has upset the ecological balance of the planet, which now threatens the very existence of life itself." - Sontag, 1967 (Chap 3, page 1).

Enjoy!

I would like to hear real reasons why Mr. Cleetwood and Mr. Marty dislike Trump so much.. Is it his policies? His love for his country? Because he says what the majority of The Republican Party is thinking? I mean, after all of these false allegations pertaining to Russia Gate, The Steele Dossier, His taxes.. I mean, you don't have much left to blame him for. Racism? Was it his mean Tweets?

Need examples according to policy, not because he's 'Orange Man Bad'.. I have no problem admitting that if Biden ran on Trump's policies, he would have gotten my vote. Which policies did Biden run on that made you align with him?

Just curious, no agenda. Just dialog.

The enemies are powerful elites who have achieved massive amounts of wealth via global trade. They have no interest in nationalism or individual rights, but rather wish to further increase their influence by controlling the narrative we consume and buying our politicians. As long as you consume their narrative and believe you're making a difference with your vote, this won't change.

(04-12-2023, 01:05 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]I would like to hear real reasons why Mr. Cleetwood and Mr. Marty dislike Trump so much.. Is it his policies? His love for his country? Because he says what the majority of The Republican Party is thinking? I mean, after all of these false allegations pertaining to Russia Gate, The Steele Dossier, His taxes.. I mean, you don't have much left to blame him for. Racism? Was it his mean Tweets?

Need examples according to policy, not because he's 'Orange Man Bad'.. I have no problem admitting that if Biden ran on Trump's policies, he would have gotten my vote. Which policies did Biden run on that made you align with him?

Just curious, no agenda. Just dialog.

My main dislike for Trump has more to do with his cult like following than anything I think.

He makes people crazy. On both sides of the aisle.

People lose their minds because they hate him so much and the other side loses their mind while treating him like a god. Taking Trumps face and throwing it on the American flag to prove that you love America more than other people? He makes people lose all sense of reality (again. on both sides). I don't think Trump actually loves this country but instead, loves the attention that he gets (not unlike many celebrities). He tried to pretend to be a religious man when the majority can see he's not. I also don't think Trump speaks for the majority of the Republican party as you eluded to. 

I don't trust ANY POLITICIAN and that includes Biden/Trump/Obama etc.

(04-12-2023, 01:37 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-12-2023, 01:05 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]I would like to hear real reasons why Mr. Cleetwood and Mr. Marty dislike Trump so much.. Is it his policies? His love for his country? Because he says what the majority of The Republican Party is thinking? I mean, after all of these false allegations pertaining to Russia Gate, The Steele Dossier, His taxes.. I mean, you don't have much left to blame him for. Racism? Was it his mean Tweets?

Need examples according to policy, not because he's 'Orange Man Bad'.. I have no problem admitting that if Biden ran on Trump's policies, he would have gotten my vote. Which policies did Biden run on that made you align with him?

Just curious, no agenda. Just dialog.

My main dislike for Trump has more to do with his cult like following than anything I think.

He makes people crazy. On both sides of the aisle.

People lose their minds because they hate him so much and the other side loses their mind while treating him like a god. Taking Trumps face and throwing it on the American flag to prove that you love America more than other people? He makes people lose all sense of reality (again. on both sides). I don't think Trump actually loves this country but instead, loves the attention that he gets (not unlike many celebrities). He tried to pretend to be a religious man when the majority can see he's not. I also don't think Trump speaks for the majority of the Republican party as you eluded to. 

I don't trust ANY POLITICIAN and that includes Biden/Trump/Obama etc.

This is it? This is the reason why you dislike Trump so much? Because of his 'cult like' following?

Did you ever stop and think he's well liked by people who are tired of the establishment? Where the American People have no transparency with our Government? Where checks and balances are hidden from the public eye? Where accountability only pertains to one political party? 

You have to do much better than that.. And I do think he represents the majority of The Republican Party. His poll numbers confirm it. 

Sure, he's an attention hog, he can be over the top and shoots from the hip. He's not an orator, but he does deliver great speeches and outlines his plans for this country. 

And what if he has religion? That should be a good thing! So what if he has sinned or strayed from his faith? Who hasn't? The religious have acknowledged this and it's why they continue to vote for him. Only one person on the face of this Earth was perfect, but we won't open that can of worms.

But one of reasons why I believe he has such a following is because he tried to fulfill every promise made in his 4 years as President. Very much against the party who wanted to put him in prison for phantom charges.

You have to do much better than that, Cleet..

(04-12-2023, 12:20 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/16461...oEhrA&s=19

Oh look!! Another example why our greatest enemy is from within.. This animal was let go on bail, after attempted murder on a police officer.. But no, we don't have a problem in this country, says Mr. and Mrs CNN.. Let's get Trump instead, maybe if Trump is behind bars, it might help with night time incontinence, right Marty?

The incredulous question that needs to be asked here is why this waste of skin was out on bail after being arrested for two separate murders, one of which was caught on video. No surprise either that this took place in Alvin Bragg country. I'm going to reiterate something I stated in a post long ago: if you are caught performing a murder on video, as this was, then there should be no due process, no trial. Please don't waste the government's time or money on it; they have other things to waste time and money on. End the perps life immediately, preferably the way they ended the life of the victim. Make it public if necessary, and do it after showing the video of the murder committed on the big screen. We've already descended so far into the depravity of the mid to late Roman Empire that we might as well go the rest of the way.

(04-12-2023, 02:06 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-12-2023, 12:20 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/16461...oEhrA&s=19

Oh look!! Another example why our greatest enemy is from within.. This animal was let go on bail, after attempted murder on a police officer.. But no, we don't have a problem in this country, says Mr. and Mrs CNN.. Let's get Trump instead, maybe if Trump is behind bars, it might help with night time incontinence, right Marty?

The incredulous question that needs to be asked here is why this waste of skin was out on bail after being arrested for two separate murders, one of which was caught on video.  No surprise either that this took place in Alvin Bragg country.  I'm going to reiterate something I stated in a post long ago:  if you are caught performing a murder on video, as this was, then there should be no due process, no trial.  Please don't waste the government's time or money on it; they have other things to waste time and money on.  End the perps life, preferably the way they ended the life of the victim.  Make it public if necessary, and do it after showing the video of the murder committed on the big screen.  We've already descended so far into the depravity of the mid to late Roman Empire that we might as well go the rest of the way.

Yeah I don't understand this either.. He'll sit in prison for 20 years on our dime until his execution, if he even receives it. This kind of wonky judicial system won't course correct until it directly affects or impacts the ones handing out the punishment. 

If that perp murdered a judges wife, daughter or son, that animal would be dealt with accordingly.

(04-12-2023, 02:16 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-12-2023, 02:06 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]The incredulous question that needs to be asked here is why this waste of skin was out on bail after being arrested for two separate murders, one of which was caught on video.  No surprise either that this took place in Alvin Bragg country.  I'm going to reiterate something I stated in a post long ago:  if you are caught performing a murder on video, as this was, then there should be no due process, no trial.  Please don't waste the government's time or money on it; they have other things to waste time and money on.  End the perps life, preferably the way they ended the life of the victim.  Make it public if necessary, and do it after showing the video of the murder committed on the big screen.  We've already descended so far into the depravity of the mid to late Roman Empire that we might as well go the rest of the way.

Yeah I don't understand this either.. He'll sit in prison for 20 years on our dime until his execution, if he even receives it. This kind of wonky judicial system won't course correct until it directly affects or impacts the ones handing out the punishment. 

If that perp murdered a judges wife, daughter or son, that animal would be dealt with accordingly.

As a gun rights supporter I want swift and permanent justice for any person who commits a crime with a firearm. Rape or Murder? Death. Armed Robbery or Battery? Life. Make is so those who abuse their 2A right pay the highest of prices and we'll see stuff like that murder go away because the murderer will already be gone from society.

(04-12-2023, 02:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-12-2023, 02:16 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I don't understand this either.. He'll sit in prison for 20 years on our dime until his execution, if he even receives it. This kind of wonky judicial system won't course correct until it directly affects or impacts the ones handing out the punishment. 

If that perp murdered a judges wife, daughter or son, that animal would be dealt with accordingly.

As a gun rights supporter I want swift and permanent justice for any person who commits a crime with a firearm. Rape or Murder? Death. Armed Robbery or Battery? Life. Make is so those who abuse their 2A right pay the highest of prices and we'll see stuff like that murder go away because the murderer will already be gone from society.

Dude, I'm loving this new bill they're trying to push..

https://narsol.org/2023/03/bills-filed-i...ld-rapist/

I would vote for that sucker in a heartbeat.

https://www.firstcoastnews.com/amp/artic...6b8d531df1

This is what a biased reporter with an agenda looks like at work. Then shot down in flames.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/...34210?s=20

(04-12-2023, 02:47 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]This is what a biased reporter with an agenda looks like at work. Then shot down in flames.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/...34210?s=20

Noice! Didn't know there was a video lol

(04-12-2023, 02:39 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-12-2023, 02:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]As a gun rights supporter I want swift and permanent justice for any person who commits a crime with a firearm. Rape or Murder? Death. Armed Robbery or Battery? Life. Make is so those who abuse their 2A right pay the highest of prices and we'll see stuff like that murder go away because the murderer will already be gone from society.

Dude, I'm loving this new bill they're trying to push..

https://narsol.org/2023/03/bills-filed-i...ld-rapist/

I would vote for that sucker in a heartbeat.

https://www.firstcoastnews.com/amp/artic...6b8d531df1

I love this too!  Anyone voting against it should be impeached.

(04-12-2023, 01:56 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-12-2023, 01:37 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]My main dislike for Trump has more to do with his cult like following than anything I think.

He makes people crazy. On both sides of the aisle.

People lose their minds because they hate him so much and the other side loses their mind while treating him like a god. Taking Trumps face and throwing it on the American flag to prove that you love America more than other people? He makes people lose all sense of reality (again. on both sides). I don't think Trump actually loves this country but instead, loves the attention that he gets (not unlike many celebrities). He tried to pretend to be a religious man when the majority can see he's not. I also don't think Trump speaks for the majority of the Republican party as you eluded to. 

I don't trust ANY POLITICIAN and that includes Biden/Trump/Obama etc.

This is it? This is the reason why you dislike Trump so much? Because of his 'cult like' following?

Did you ever stop and think he's well liked by people who are tired of the establishment? Where the American People have no transparency with our Government? Where checks and balances are hidden from the public eye? Where accountability only pertains to one political party? 

You have to do much better than that.. And I do think he represents the majority of The Republican Party. His poll numbers confirm it. 

Sure, he's an attention hog, he can be over the top and shoots from the hip. He's not an orator, but he does deliver great speeches and outlines his plans for this country. 

And what if he has religion? That should be a good thing! So what if he has sinned or strayed from his faith? Who hasn't? The religious have acknowledged this and it's why they continue to vote for him. Only one person on the face of this Earth was perfect, but we won't open that can of worms.

But one of reasons why I believe he has such a following is because he tried to fulfill every promise made in his 4 years as President. Very much against the party who wanted to put him in prison for phantom charges.

You have to do much better than that, Cleet..

Lol I don't have to do anything.

You asked a question and I answered it. Sorry if it wasn't the answer you were looking for. Better luck next time I guess.

(04-12-2023, 03:04 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-12-2023, 01:56 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]This is it? This is the reason why you dislike Trump so much? Because of his 'cult like' following?

Did you ever stop and think he's well liked by people who are tired of the establishment? Where the American People have no transparency with our Government? Where checks and balances are hidden from the public eye? Where accountability only pertains to one political party? 

You have to do much better than that.. And I do think he represents the majority of The Republican Party. His poll numbers confirm it. 

Sure, he's an attention hog, he can be over the top and shoots from the hip. He's not an orator, but he does deliver great speeches and outlines his plans for this country. 

And what if he has religion? That should be a good thing! So what if he has sinned or strayed from his faith? Who hasn't? The religious have acknowledged this and it's why they continue to vote for him. Only one person on the face of this Earth was perfect, but we won't open that can of worms.

But one of reasons why I believe he has such a following is because he tried to fulfill every promise made in his 4 years as President. Very much against the party who wanted to put him in prison for phantom charges.

You have to do much better than that, Cleet..

Lol I don't have to do anything.

You asked a question and I answered it. Sorry if it wasn't the answer you were looking for. Better luck next time I guess.

So basically, 'Orange Man Bad'.. Got it..

Marty? Orange Man Bad, for you too? Or do you actually have a real reason?

(04-12-2023, 03:06 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-12-2023, 03:04 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Lol I don't have to do anything.

You asked a question and I answered it. Sorry if it wasn't the answer you were looking for. Better luck next time I guess.

So basically, 'Orange Man Bad'.. Got it..

Marty? Orange Man Bad, for you too? Or do you actually have a real reason?

If that's what you took from it, go for it.

Also, why do you care why some people dislike Trump? Hasn't this topic been discussed enough on this message board?

(04-12-2023, 03:11 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-12-2023, 03:06 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]So basically, 'Orange Man Bad'.. Got it..

Marty? Orange Man Bad, for you too? Or do you actually have a real reason?

If that's what you took from it, go for it.

Also, why do you care why some people dislike Trump? Hasn't this topic been discussed enough on this message board?

And if you actually had an answer, you would have given it..

You gave Ronster so much of the same exact [BLEEP] that you yourself are projecting, only on the opposite side of the spectrum. You're no better than he is.

Just sayin'..

Ronster 2.0

(04-12-2023, 03:19 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-12-2023, 03:11 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]If that's what you took from it, go for it.

Also, why do you care why some people dislike Trump? Hasn't this topic been discussed enough on this message board?

And if you actually had an answer, you would have given it..

You gave Ronster so much of the same exact [BLEEP] that you yourself are projecting, only on the opposite side of the spectrum. You're no better than he is.

Just sayin'..

Ronster 2.0

Wrong again.

I gave Ronster [BLEEP] because he said half the country should die because of their political beliefs. That's absolutely nothing like what I'm saying at all. Not even close actually.

Just sayin.....

(04-12-2023, 03:22 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-12-2023, 03:19 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]And if you actually had an answer, you would have given it..

You gave Ronster so much of the same exact [BLEEP] that you yourself are projecting, only on the opposite side of the spectrum. You're no better than he is.

Just sayin'..

Ronster 2.0

Wrong again.

I gave Ronster [BLEEP] because he said half the country should die because of their political beliefs. That's absolutely nothing like what I'm saying at all. Not even close actually.

Just sayin.....

(04-12-2023, 03:23 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-12-2023, 03:22 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Wrong again.

I gave Ronster [BLEEP] because he said half the country should die because of their political beliefs. That's absolutely nothing like what I'm saying at all. Not even close actually.

Just sayin.....

No. It's not "It is what it is".

He's a horrible person for saying half the country should die and for you to say that I'm like that is pretty [BLEEP] dude. Even for you.

(04-12-2023, 03:25 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-12-2023, 03:23 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]

No. It's not "It is what it is".

He's a horrible person for saying half the country should die and for you to say that I'm like that is pretty [BLEEP] dude. Even for you.

Or.. Could it be that he couldn't back up any of his claims either?

Not everyone is out to get you, regardless what you think..

So yeah, it is what it is..

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And personally, I think someone who votes on blind faith is just as careless as yourself and Ronster, no matter what party affiliation.