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(03-03-2025, 04:45 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-03-2025, 04:32 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]These hayseeds think America can function without trade

There's lots of things and people we can function without.. Addition by subtraction.

So when are you registering for The Ukranian Army?

He's not going to sign up for anything that requires him to leave his keyboard. He's more of a "supporter" in the jock strap sense than anything actually useful to the country he wants us to send billions of dollars.

(03-03-2025, 01:07 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-02-2025, 11:16 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]OK, does Putin want our number with Ukraine to be higher, or lower?

Irrelevant. The U.S. and Europe want the war ended. It's the goal at this point to stop the hostilities in order to hold further talks and it shouldn't be difficult because both sides are exhausted in every sense, although Russia remains the stronger one. It's a matter of changing the demanding bellicose rhetoric on both sides towards the direction of peace. This is why Zelinsky got jumped. He believes he has the heft to question future U.S. diplomatic relations with Russia. He doesn't. Ukraine is the little guy who held his own for a while against a bigger and stronger opponent, but predictably, he's destined to eventually lose the fight and thus is bidding from a position of weakness - despite a combined $400B in aid from the U.S. and Europe.

Additionally, with the long term in mind, Russia will be assuaged. For good or bad, they are an international mover and shaker. They're in a position of power because they are a major player in the global arena. In the following decades, Russia is who the world will continue to deal with. Not Ukraine. 

Like the U.S., Russia is big and powerful and can throw its weight around too. Love it or hate it, that's the rules of the road for international relations. 

There really are more dimensions to this situation than simply trying to manufacture another Russia collusion lie.

What's stopping Putin for calling for a cease-fire during negotiations? Do you think that Zelensky would refuse? Of course he wouldnt.

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(03-03-2025, 05:10 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-03-2025, 04:45 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]There's lots of things and people we can function without.. Addition by subtraction.

So when are you registering for The Ukranian Army?

He's not going to sign up for anything that requires him to leave his keyboard. He's more of a "supporter" in the jock strap sense than anything actually useful to the country he wants us to send billions of dollars.

That was a lot of text just to avoid saying Trump doesn't have his ceasefire or his mineral deal.

You have been exposed of being dishonest.

(03-03-2025, 05:10 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-03-2025, 01:07 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Irrelevant. The U.S. and Europe want the war ended. It's the goal at this point to stop the hostilities in order to hold further talks and it shouldn't be difficult because both sides are exhausted in every sense, although Russia remains the stronger one. It's a matter of changing the demanding bellicose rhetoric on both sides towards the direction of peace. This is why Zelinsky got jumped. He believes he has the heft to question future U.S. diplomatic relations with Russia. He doesn't. Ukraine is the little guy who held his own for a while against a bigger and stronger opponent, but predictably, he's destined to eventually lose the fight and thus is bidding from a position of weakness - despite a combined $400B in aid from the U.S. and Europe.

Additionally, with the long term in mind, Russia will be assuaged. For good or bad, they are an international mover and shaker. They're in a position of power because they are a major player in the global arena. In the following decades, Russia is who the world will continue to deal with. Not Ukraine. 

Like the U.S., Russia is big and powerful and can throw its weight around too. Love it or hate it, that's the rules of the road for international relations. 

There really are more dimensions to this situation than simply trying to manufacture another Russia collusion lie.

What's stopping Putin for calling for a cease-fire during negotiations? Do you think that Zelensky would refuse? Of course he wouldnt.

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(03-03-2025, 05:10 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]He's not going to sign up for anything that requires him to leave his keyboard. He's more of a "supporter" in the jock strap sense than anything actually useful to the country he wants us to send billions of dollars.

That was a lot of text just to avoid saying Trump doesn't have his ceasefire or his mineral deal.

You have been exposed of being dishonest.

Oh, so you've signed up? Let's see your plane ticket little man. In fact, I'm feeling charitable and a pang of sympathy for the Ukrainians who could probably use a good bullet stopper like you. I'll pay for your plane ticket and I'll meet you at JIA to send you off. Let me know when you're ready, I'll meet you at the ticket counter.

(03-03-2025, 05:14 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-03-2025, 05:10 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]What's stopping Putin for calling for a cease-fire during negotiations? Do you think that Zelensky would refuse? Of course he wouldnt.

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That was a lot of text just to avoid saying Trump doesn't have his ceasefire or his mineral deal.

You have been exposed of being dishonest.

Oh, so you've signed up? Let's see your plane ticket little man. In fact, I'm feeling charitable and a pang of sympathy for the Ukrainians who could probably use a good bullet stopper like you. I'll pay for your plane ticket and I'll meet you at JIA to send you off. Let me know when you're ready, I'll meet you at the ticket counter.

Hold up. Don't tell me Vlad approved this post.



Dime a dozen, or a trillion. Putin says so Trump says so MAGA and "MAGA" says.

Elon found about 20 million dead people mark as alive on the SSI database. Now one poster was dismissive of a 50 year old database not being kept up. Elon said "some" of these people were getting money. The larger issue is they found these same dead people's numbers were being used as a gateway to get money from other government agencies. This is not a partisan issue. They also have found fake numbers.... but feel free to rant and rave about dumb poop as that is all a couple of you are here for.

(03-03-2025, 05:20 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-03-2025, 05:14 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Oh, so you've signed up? Let's see your plane ticket little man. In fact, I'm feeling charitable and a pang of sympathy for the Ukrainians who could probably use a good bullet stopper like you. I'll pay for your plane ticket and I'll meet you at JIA to send you off. Let me know when you're ready, I'll meet you at the ticket counter.

Hold up. Don't tell me Vlad approved this post.



Dime a dozen, or a trillion. Putin says so Trump says so MAGA and "MAGA" says.

That's a lot of words to say "I'm a coward without the fortitude to put my [BLEEP] where my loud whiny mouth is."

And if you ever decide to man up let me know and I'll meet you at the ticket counter so you can go serve your country.

I got you squared away, the flight leaves JIA on Friday at 1910, arrives in Warsaw on the 8th at 2130. From there it's a 12 hour train ride to Kyiv, but the good news is it's only about $50. I'll buy that one too if you need the sponsorship so you can see to your duty. Slava Ukrani and such and so, anything for our boys in uniform!

So...are you going or are you just a bull [BLEEP] artist with no balls?

(03-03-2025, 07:54 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-03-2025, 05:20 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]Hold up. Don't tell me Vlad approved this post.



Dime a dozen, or a trillion. Putin says so Trump says so MAGA and "MAGA" says.

That's a lot of words to say "I'm a coward without the fortitude to put my [BLEEP] where my loud whiny mouth is."

And if you ever decide to man up let me know and I'll meet you at the ticket counter so you can go serve your country.

I got you squared away, the flight leaves JIA on Friday at 1910, arrives in Warsaw on the 8th at 2130. From there it's a 12 hour train ride to Kyiv, but the good news is it's only about $50. I'll buy that one too if you need the sponsorship so you can see to your duty. Slava Ukrani and such and so, anything for our boys in uniform!

So...are you going or are you just a bull [BLEEP] artist with no balls?

You're being ridiculous.
TDoss is just telling you that the US doesn't get to dictate the terms or the timing of a ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia. 
He would like the US to continue with the aid to Ukraine, but is that such a bad thing? After all, Trump gave them aid during his first term.

(03-03-2025, 09:07 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-03-2025, 07:54 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]That's a lot of words to say "I'm a coward without the fortitude to put my [BLEEP] where my loud whiny mouth is."

And if you ever decide to man up let me know and I'll meet you at the ticket counter so you can go serve your country.

I got you squared away, the flight leaves JIA on Friday at 1910, arrives in Warsaw on the 8th at 2130. From there it's a 12 hour train ride to Kyiv, but the good news is it's only about $50. I'll buy that one too if you need the sponsorship so you can see to your duty. Slava Ukrani and such and so, anything for our boys in uniform!

So...are you going or are you just a bull [BLEEP] artist with no balls?

You're being ridiculous.
TDoss is just telling you that the US doesn't get to dictate the terms or the timing of a ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia. 
He would like the US to continue with the aid to Ukraine, but is that such a bad thing? After all, Trump gave them aid during his first term.

Quiet you, we're discussing TDoof's enlistment expenses. He insists that I'm a Russian bot because I think we shouldn't be giving any more money to one of the most corrupt countries on Earth so they can keep grinding up their children in a war they can't win. I insist that Doof is a coward for so willingly offering other people's children to the meat grinder of a war he has absolutely no intention of getting anywhere near himself. And yes, it is a bad thing because the only way this doesn't end in a Russian victory is if we send our kids to be ground up instead. Maybe that doesn't matter to you, but I have a son who will be conscription age in a few years and there's no way in hell I'm willing to sacrifice him on the altar of you people's warmongering exuberance. Ukraine is a bad country and not our problem. Russia is also a bad country and also not our problem. We need to butt right the hell out and let Europe take care of themselves. But I'm certainly willing to pay for Doof to get to the front lines so he can put his [BLEEP] where his mouth is. And you called me a Confederate, you can step off the nearest cliff for all I care about what you think.

P.S. - And if Ukraine can't fight without our money and support then America absolutely can dictate a ceasefire simply by forcing Ukraine to capitulate. And I'm ok with that, not because I like Russia, but simply because I do not care about Ukraine. Trump gave him a way out and he spit in his face. So he can [BLEEP] right off.

(03-03-2025, 09:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-03-2025, 09:07 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]You're being ridiculous.
TDoss is just telling you that the US doesn't get to dictate the terms or the timing of a ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia. 
He would like the US to continue with the aid to Ukraine, but is that such a bad thing? After all, Trump gave them aid during his first term.

Quiet you, we're discussing TDoof's enlistment expenses. He insists that I'm a Russian bot because I think we shouldn't be giving any more money to one of the most corrupt countries on Earth so they can keep grinding up their children in a war they can't win. I insist that Doof is a coward for so willingly offering other people's children to the meat grinder of a war he has absolutely no intention of getting anywhere near himself. And yes, it is a bad thing because the only way this doesn't end in a Russian victory is if we send our kids to be ground up instead. Maybe that doesn't matter to you, but I have a son who will be conscription age in a few years and there's no way in hell I'm willing to sacrifice him on the altar of you people's warmongering exuberance. Ukraine is a bad country and not our problem. Russia is also a bad country and also not our problem. We need to butt right the hell out and let Europe take care of themselves. But I'm certainly willing to pay for Doof to get to the front lines so he can put his [BLEEP] where his mouth is. And you called me a Confederate, you can step off the nearest cliff for all I care about what you think.

P.S. - And if Ukraine can't fight without our money and support then America absolutely can dictate a ceasefire simply by forcing Ukraine to capitulate. And I'm ok with that, not because I like Russia, but simply because I do not care about Ukraine. Trump gave him a way out and he spit in his face. So he can [BLEEP] right off.

My brother in fandom, you yourself call it the War of Northern Aggression.  The word for that is Confederate.
My son is still about a decade away from adulthood. But eligibility doesn't end until age 35 so our boys will be eligible at the same time.  We both know that a lot of things would have to change before the US goes back to conscription. There would have to be full out wars in multiple countries, or on the homeland. It's unlikely. I would chill out with those thoughts.

(03-03-2025, 10:07 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-03-2025, 09:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Quiet you, we're discussing TDoof's enlistment expenses. He insists that I'm a Russian bot because I think we shouldn't be giving any more money to one of the most corrupt countries on Earth so they can keep grinding up their children in a war they can't win. I insist that Doof is a coward for so willingly offering other people's children to the meat grinder of a war he has absolutely no intention of getting anywhere near himself. And yes, it is a bad thing because the only way this doesn't end in a Russian victory is if we send our kids to be ground up instead. Maybe that doesn't matter to you, but I have a son who will be conscription age in a few years and there's no way in hell I'm willing to sacrifice him on the altar of you people's warmongering exuberance. Ukraine is a bad country and not our problem. Russia is also a bad country and also not our problem. We need to butt right the hell out and let Europe take care of themselves. But I'm certainly willing to pay for Doof to get to the front lines so he can put his [BLEEP] where his mouth is. And you called me a Confederate, you can step off the nearest cliff for all I care about what you think.

P.S. - And if Ukraine can't fight without our money and support then America absolutely can dictate a ceasefire simply by forcing Ukraine to capitulate. And I'm ok with that, not because I like Russia, but simply because I do not care about Ukraine. Trump gave him a way out and he spit in his face. So he can [BLEEP] right off.

My brother in fandom, you yourself call it the War of Northern Aggression.  The word for that is Confederate.
My son is still about a decade away from adulthood. But eligibility doesn't end until age 35 so our boys will be eligible at the same time.  We both know that a lot of things would have to change before the US goes back to conscription. There would have to be Fall out wars and multiple countries, or on the homeland. It's unlikely. I would chill out with those thoughts.

interesting discussions. I propose we do this in steps, first ask Mr Z to account for the money we already have bestowed on him before donating any more. By donating this time I mean a secured loan like the other EU countries did. The only person that actually gave Ukraine money was Biden. I believe to be accurate as I can a lend lease thing with no repayment schedule. Just tell us what you did with that first. We can report out on TV in front of the American taxpayers whose money it was. He can show how good a manager he is !

(03-03-2025, 10:07 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-03-2025, 09:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Quiet you, we're discussing TDoof's enlistment expenses. He insists that I'm a Russian bot because I think we shouldn't be giving any more money to one of the most corrupt countries on Earth so they can keep grinding up their children in a war they can't win. I insist that Doof is a coward for so willingly offering other people's children to the meat grinder of a war he has absolutely no intention of getting anywhere near himself. And yes, it is a bad thing because the only way this doesn't end in a Russian victory is if we send our kids to be ground up instead. Maybe that doesn't matter to you, but I have a son who will be conscription age in a few years and there's no way in hell I'm willing to sacrifice him on the altar of you people's warmongering exuberance. Ukraine is a bad country and not our problem. Russia is also a bad country and also not our problem. We need to butt right the hell out and let Europe take care of themselves. But I'm certainly willing to pay for Doof to get to the front lines so he can put his [BLEEP] where his mouth is. And you called me a Confederate, you can step off the nearest cliff for all I care about what you think.

P.S. - And if Ukraine can't fight without our money and support then America absolutely can dictate a ceasefire simply by forcing Ukraine to capitulate. And I'm ok with that, not because I like Russia, but simply because I do not care about Ukraine. Trump gave him a way out and he spit in his face. So he can [BLEEP] right off.

My brother in fandom, you yourself call it the War of Northern Aggression.  The word for that is Confederate.
My son is still about a decade away from adulthood. But eligibility doesn't end until age 35 so our boys will be eligible at the same time.  We both know that a lot of things would have to change before the US goes back to conscription. There would have to be full out wars in multiple countries, or on the homeland. It's unlikely. I would chill out with those thoughts.

No, the word for that is "accurate", now quit trying to change the subject.

Trump is being a [BLEEP] pursuing his tariff strategy. The only winner is government revenue. Consumers lose.

(03-03-2025, 02:45 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]

He keeps ranting about tariffs but never puts them in place. First it was January, then February, then March. Now they’re coming in April.

C’mon Donald, talk is cheap. I dare you to put tariffs in place this week.

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(03-04-2025, 03:55 AM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ]Trump is being a [BLEEP] pursuing his tariff strategy.  The only winner is government revenue.  Consumers lose.

Right now he as the concept of a tariff on food and agricultural products.

He'll have a real plan in two weeks, the biggest bestest plan.

WW

(03-03-2025, 09:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-03-2025, 09:07 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]You're being ridiculous.
TDoss is just telling you that the US doesn't get to dictate the terms or the timing of a ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia. 
He would like the US to continue with the aid to Ukraine, but is that such a bad thing? After all, Trump gave them aid during his first term.

Quiet you, we're discussing TDoof's enlistment expenses. He insists that I'm a Russian bot because I think we shouldn't be giving any more money to one of the most corrupt countries on Earth so they can keep grinding up their children in a war they can't win. I insist that Doof is a coward for so willingly offering other people's children to the meat grinder of a war he has absolutely no intention of getting anywhere near himself. And yes, it is a bad thing because the only way this doesn't end in a Russian victory is if we send our kids to be ground up instead. Maybe that doesn't matter to you, but I have a son who will be conscription age in a few years and there's no way in hell I'm willing to sacrifice him on the altar of you people's warmongering exuberance. Ukraine is a bad country and not our problem. Russia is also a bad country and also not our problem. We need to butt right the hell out and let Europe take care of themselves. But I'm certainly willing to pay for Doof to get to the front lines so he can put his [BLEEP] where his mouth is. And you called me a Confederate, you can step off the nearest cliff for all I care about what you think.

P.S. - And if Ukraine can't fight without our money and support then America absolutely can dictate a ceasefire simply by forcing Ukraine to capitulate. And I'm ok with that, not because I like Russia, but simply because I do not care about Ukraine. Trump gave him a way out and he spit in his face. So he can [BLEEP] right off.

Why do you not answer questions? Are you not capable?

Do you back dictators (that can quickly destabilize the world as Neville Chamberlain learned) or do you support democracies and the free world protecting each other? I have yet to read anything remotely close to reality in your takes

(03-04-2025, 09:06 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]

The fact that he wants to stop aid to Ukraine is not putting "America First" it's putting Putin first. 

I know, MAGAs are hayseeds and you think you could survive without a trade partner.

Step outside your  trailer and smell the roses. World doesn't work like that.

Looks like today's script was released hahaha

Word for [BLEEP] word lololol

These "people" are so disingenuous and dishonest lololol

https://x.com/ThePatriotOasis/status/189...n59Ow&s=19

(03-04-2025, 11:04 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-04-2025, 09:06 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]

The fact that he wants to stop aid to Ukraine is not putting "America First" it's putting Putin first. 

I know, MAGAs are hayseeds and you think you could survive without a trade partner.

Step outside your  trailer and smell the roses. World doesn't work like that.

Lol, "hayseed", lol. Damn you're funny. Lol.

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(03-04-2025, 08:59 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-03-2025, 09:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Quiet you, we're discussing TDoof's enlistment expenses. He insists that I'm a Russian bot because I think we shouldn't be giving any more money to one of the most corrupt countries on Earth so they can keep grinding up their children in a war they can't win. I insist that Doof is a coward for so willingly offering other people's children to the meat grinder of a war he has absolutely no intention of getting anywhere near himself. And yes, it is a bad thing because the only way this doesn't end in a Russian victory is if we send our kids to be ground up instead. Maybe that doesn't matter to you, but I have a son who will be conscription age in a few years and there's no way in hell I'm willing to sacrifice him on the altar of you people's warmongering exuberance. Ukraine is a bad country and not our problem. Russia is also a bad country and also not our problem. We need to butt right the hell out and let Europe take care of themselves. But I'm certainly willing to pay for Doof to get to the front lines so he can put his [BLEEP] where his mouth is. And you called me a Confederate, you can step off the nearest cliff for all I care about what you think.

P.S. - And if Ukraine can't fight without our money and support then America absolutely can dictate a ceasefire simply by forcing Ukraine to capitulate. And I'm ok with that, not because I like Russia, but simply because I do not care about Ukraine. Trump gave him a way out and he spit in his face. So he can [BLEEP] right off.

Why do you not answer questions? Are you not capable?

Do you back dictators (that can quickly destabilize the world as Neville Chamberlain learned) or do you support democracies and the free world protecting each other? I have yet to read anything remotely close to reality in your takes

That's because your "reality" is an imaginary framework of leftist tripe that you keep under lock and key between your ears. I've explained the actual world to you repeatedly, but against the backdrop of your mental delusion it has no chance. Perhaps you should see a doctor, I'm not sure Ukraine will accept you into their foreign legion while demonstrating such a severe cognitive break with the rational world.

(03-04-2025, 11:04 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]I know, MAGAs are hayseeds and you think you could survive without a trade partner.

Step outside your  trailer and smell the roses. World doesn't work like that.

Hayseed????? Well.... Yes, I'm very proficient with a firearm as I hunt on a regular basis, I fish everything from ponds, to streams, rivers, and deep sea, I also know how to grow my own food and make my own booze so I have that going for me. Oh yeah, I was operating a John Deere well before I got my DL's also. I know how to build engines and do mechanical repairs among other "Hayseed" things....... But here's the kicker...... I also have a degree in Computer and information technology  so I also have that going for me. Now tell me, after reading the first part of my reply, which one of us will be better equipped to survive when (it's no longer a matter of "If" but when) the defecation contacts the rotary oscillator in this country?????? Certainly not some whiney [BLEEP] liberal city slicker like you.........