(08-29-2023, 01:47 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-29-2023, 01:30 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]No [BLEEP].
So my opinion is that isn't very useful for determining if man made climate change (which you agree is happening) is alarming or not.
The point is that neither is that stupid [BLEEP] meme you posted.
(08-29-2023, 02:35 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (08-29-2023, 01:47 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]So my opinion is that isn't very useful for determining if man made climate change (which you agree is happening) is alarming or not.
The point is that neither is that stupid [BLEEP] meme you posted.
What would be useful? What is a piece of data I could present to you that would cause you to say, "OK, I changed my mind, climate change is a problem worth preparing for and spending government money on."
It won't be long before some of these dumb [BLEEP] get hurt doing this stuff. I support their right to protest but not their efforts to disrupt the lives of working people. Shouldn't they be doing this on the runway of Al Gore's private jet?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/a...60be&ei=13
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(08-29-2023, 05:00 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]It won't be long before some of these dumb [BLEEP] get hurt doing this stuff. I support their right to protest but not their efforts to disrupt the lives of working people. Shouldn't they be doing this on the runway of Al Gore's private jet?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/a...60be&ei=13
I'm sure a swift kick to the face would help clear the way..
(08-29-2023, 02:59 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-29-2023, 02:35 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]The point is that neither is that stupid [BLEEP] meme you posted.
What would be useful? What is a piece of data I could present to you that would cause you to say, "OK, I changed my mind, climate change is a problem worth preparing for and spending government money on."
Bump.
Anyone who doubts we should do anything about climate change and CO2 emissions can answer this one. Should answer this one.
What new piece of data would, if it was proven true, cause you to change your mind? Cause you to be alarmed about climate change? Can you imagine one?
(08-30-2023, 08:43 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-29-2023, 02:59 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]What would be useful? What is a piece of data I could present to you that would cause you to say, "OK, I changed my mind, climate change is a problem worth preparing for and spending government money on."
Bump.
Anyone who doubts we should do anything about climate change and CO2 emissions can answer this one. Should answer this one.
What new piece of data would, if it was proven true, cause you to change your mind? Cause you to be alarmed about climate change? Can you imagine one?
Nope, I really can't. Mainly because "doing something about climate change" is just babble speak for "tax Americans and redistribute their wealth to other countries." But also because for my entire lifetime we've been told that the Earth is dying because of us and every single time the doomsayers have been wrong. Eventually we need to start stoning these False Profits so that others will think twice before they speak.
Serves the idiots right..........
Driver drags radical climate protesters through highway after they refuse to get out of way
Climate activists from the Letzte Generation have been an increasing public nuisance in Germany
Radical climate protesters in Munich, Germany, who were blocking a street in a staged protest, were then dragged forward by a vehicle after they refused to move from incoming traffic, according to a video the environmental group posted on X.
A video posted on Monday showed a car refusing to pause amid the protesters blocking the road. As the protesters approached to block the car, it slowly lurched forward. The climate protesters were dragged hundreds of feet into the roadway by the car.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/driver-dra...se-out-way
(08-29-2023, 02:59 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-29-2023, 02:35 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]The point is that neither is that stupid [BLEEP] meme you posted.
What would be useful? What is a piece of data I could present to you that would cause you to say, "OK, I changed my mind, climate change is a problem worth preparing for and spending government money on."
It may not be the data much as it is the presentation. Drop the lecturing-to-children tone and STOP TRYING TO CONVINCE EVERYONE THAT YOU'RE CORRECT AND THEY AREN'T! Offer no conclusions of your own and don't attempt to build a case. Present UNBIASED AND FACTUALLY ACCURATE data, then let others form their own opinions. Every time you make a claim such as "the hottest ever", and it's disproven, you erode your own credibility and build skepticism.
(08-30-2023, 10:56 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (08-30-2023, 08:43 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Bump.
Anyone who doubts we should do anything about climate change and CO2 emissions can answer this one. Should answer this one.
What new piece of data would, if it was proven true, cause you to change your mind? Cause you to be alarmed about climate change? Can you imagine one?
Nope, I really can't. Mainly because "doing something about climate change" is just babble speak for "tax Americans and redistribute their wealth to other countries." But also because for my entire lifetime we've been told that the Earth is dying because of us and every single time the doomsayers have been wrong. Eventually we need to start stoning these False Profits so that others will think twice before they speak.
Exactly my point. It's religion to you. Your beliefs in this area are not falsifiable, and you now use religious language to discuss it.
Which is fine, I guess, because knowing the facts on this isn't your job.
But do you see how if you brought this attitude to your day job, you wouldn't last long there?
(08-30-2023, 12:40 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ] (08-29-2023, 02:59 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]What would be useful? What is a piece of data I could present to you that would cause you to say, "OK, I changed my mind, climate change is a problem worth preparing for and spending government money on."
It may not be the data much as it is the presentation. Drop the lecturing-to-children tone and STOP TRYING TO CONVINCE EVERYONE THAT YOU'RE CORRECT AND THEY AREN'T! Offer no conclusions of your own and don't attempt to build a case. Present UNBIASED AND FACTUALLY ACCURATE data, then let others form their own opinions. Every time you make a claim such as "the hottest ever", and it's disproven, you erode your own credibility and build skepticism.
Ah, blame the messenger. As long as you avoid responsibility in your own mind.
This forum has no audio and no video from me. Yet you are sure you know what my tone is. Odd.
Can you give me an example of "unbiased data" on this subject, data that is also relevant to the question of if man should be alarmed about man-made climate change?
(08-30-2023, 11:44 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Serves the idiots right..........
Driver drags radical climate protesters through highway after they refuse to get out of way
Climate activists from the Letzte Generation have been an increasing public nuisance in Germany
Radical climate protesters in Munich, Germany, who were blocking a street in a staged protest, were then dragged forward by a vehicle after they refused to move from incoming traffic, according to a video the environmental group posted on X.
A video posted on Monday showed a car refusing to pause amid the protesters blocking the road. As the protesters approached to block the car, it slowly lurched forward. The climate protesters were dragged hundreds of feet into the roadway by the car.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/driver-dra...se-out-way
If there was no one behind them they should have reversed real quick and let those idiots hit the deck face first then calmly drove around them.
(08-30-2023, 12:53 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-30-2023, 10:56 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Nope, I really can't. Mainly because "doing something about climate change" is just babble speak for "tax Americans and redistribute their wealth to other countries." But also because for my entire lifetime we've been told that the Earth is dying because of us and every single time the doomsayers have been wrong. Eventually we need to start stoning these False Profits so that others will think twice before they speak.
Exactly my point. It's religion to you. Your beliefs in this area are not falsifiable, and you now use religious language to discuss it.
Which is fine, I guess, because knowing the facts on this isn't your job.
But do you see how if you brought this attitude to your day job, you wouldn't last long there?
(08-30-2023, 12:40 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]It may not be the data much as it is the presentation. Drop the lecturing-to-children tone and STOP TRYING TO CONVINCE EVERYONE THAT YOU'RE CORRECT AND THEY AREN'T! Offer no conclusions of your own and don't attempt to build a case. Present UNBIASED AND FACTUALLY ACCURATE data, then let others form their own opinions. Every time you make a claim such as "the hottest ever", and it's disproven, you erode your own credibility and build skepticism.
Ah, blame the messenger. As long as you avoid responsibility in your own mind.
This forum has no audio and no video from me. Yet you are sure you know what my tone is. Odd.
Can you give me an example of "unbiased data" on this subject, data that is also relevant to the question of if man should be alarmed about man-made climate change?
The zealotry in this discussion is not on my side, it's on those who believe the prophets of doom and their continually wrong predictions. The question you should ask is why you still believe people who are demonstrably wrong with their alarmist nonsense? If only you brought your Trump skepticism to the Climate Hoax! But you can't, earning your way into the inner circle of progressivism seems to be your only focus these days.
(08-30-2023, 03:01 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (08-30-2023, 12:53 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly my point. It's religion to you. Your beliefs in this area are not falsifiable, and you now use religious language to discuss it.
Which is fine, I guess, because knowing the facts on this isn't your job.
But do you see how if you brought this attitude to your day job, you wouldn't last long there?
The zealotry in this discussion is not on my side, it's on those who believe the prophets of doom and their continually wrong predictions. The question you should ask is why you still believe people who are demonstrably wrong with their alarmist nonsense? If only you brought your Trump skepticism to the Climate Hoax! But you can't, earning your way into the inner circle of progressivism seems to be your only focus these days.
I am not calling anyone a prophet. You are. I am making a prediction about the future, yes. But so are you. Everyone is. The difference is, I would be willing to change my prediction about the future if we saw new trends emerged. If for some reason the planet started cooling while CO2 emissions remained the same or increased, that would definitely make me revise my prediction. But there is nothing that would make you revise yours. That's why my prediction is scientific and yours is religious.
Also, it's true that liberals historically have tried to punish wealthy countries and subsidize poor ones as their solution to this problem. That won't work, though, and it's not what I'm calling for.
(08-30-2023, 12:53 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-30-2023, 12:40 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]It may not be the data much as it is the presentation. Drop the lecturing-to-children tone and STOP TRYING TO CONVINCE EVERYONE THAT YOU'RE CORRECT AND THEY AREN'T! Offer no conclusions of your own and don't attempt to build a case. Present UNBIASED AND FACTUALLY ACCURATE data, then let others form their own opinions. Every time you make a claim such as "the hottest ever", and it's disproven, you erode your own credibility and build skepticism.
Ah, blame the messenger. As long as you avoid responsibility in your own mind.
This forum has no audio and no video from me. Yet you are sure you know what my tone is. Odd.
Can you give me an example of "unbiased data" on this subject, data that is also relevant to the question of if man should be alarmed about man-made climate change?
When the messenger's attitude is restricting the delivery of the message, then yes, I do blame the messenger. Believe it or not, I'm trying to help you here. By the way, what do you perceive me to be avoiding? I've never expressed any position on the climate change theory/argument in this forum.
Not odd at all. Tone in writing reflects the author's attitude towards the subject matter or audience. I believe most professional writers would tell you it's of huge significance.
First of all, drop the "alarmed" language (It expresses your tone) and the "man-made" premise (That's your conclusion).
(08-30-2023, 12:53 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-30-2023, 12:40 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]It may not be the data much as it is the presentation. Drop the lecturing-to-children tone and STOP TRYING TO CONVINCE EVERYONE THAT YOU'RE CORRECT AND THEY AREN'T! Offer no conclusions of your own and don't attempt to build a case. Present UNBIASED AND FACTUALLY ACCURATE data, then let others form their own opinions. Every time you make a claim such as "the hottest ever", and it's disproven, you erode your own credibility and build skepticism.
Ah, blame the messenger. As long as you avoid responsibility in your own mind.
This forum has no audio and no video from me. Yet you are sure you know what my tone is. Odd.
Can you give me an example of "unbiased data" on this subject, data that is also relevant to the question of if man should be alarmed about man-made climate change?
(08-30-2023, 08:43 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-29-2023, 02:59 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]What would be useful? What is a piece of data I could present to you that would cause you to say, "OK, I changed my mind, climate change is a problem worth preparing for and spending government money on."
Bump.
Anyone who doubts we should do anything about climate change and CO2 emissions can answer this one. Should answer this one.
What new piece of data would, if it was proven true, cause you to change your mind? Cause you to be alarmed about climate change? Can you imagine one?
I think you like to boink pigs. I am going to need money from everyone on this board to protect pigs, unless you can provide data that proves you don't like to boink pigs. I'm sure I could get others to testify to your pig boinking tendencies.