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(04-20-2023, 08:51 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I have no problem with paying small subsidies to help other folks afford a house. As it states in this article, it equates to about $40 a month for a $400k mortgage. It’s not much. But the very premise of forwarding loans to people with less than ideal credit seems like a recipe for 2008 all over again. 

https://nypost.com/2023/04/16/how-the-us...od-credit/

It would seem to benefit someone to somehow lower their credit score or just not build it so high for this to work in their favor. 

Folks with not excellent credit probably don't need to be buying a $400K house in the first place. 

It's like the industry never learns from the past.
(04-20-2023, 02:03 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2023, 08:51 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I have no problem with paying small subsidies to help other folks afford a house. As it states in this article, it equates to about $40 a month for a $400k mortgage. It’s not much. But the very premise of forwarding loans to people with less than ideal credit seems like a recipe for 2008 all over again. 

https://nypost.com/2023/04/16/how-the-us...od-credit/

It would seem to benefit someone to somehow lower their credit score or just not build it so high for this to work in their favor. 

Folks with not excellent credit probably don't need to be buying a $400K house in the first place. 

It's like the industry never learns from the past.

Lol, right now in Jax $400k gets you a 60 year old 2 bedroom with no windows or indoor plumbing.
We can thank Black Rock and Vangard for that, even though Mikey has no idea why they would be relevant.
(04-20-2023, 02:17 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2023, 02:03 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]It would seem to benefit someone to somehow lower their credit score or just not build it so high for this to work in their favor. 

Folks with not excellent credit probably don't need to be buying a $400K house in the first place. 

It's like the industry never learns from the past.

Lol, right now in Jax $400k gets you a 60 year old 2 bedroom with no windows or indoor plumbing.

Really? A lot has changed since I left in 2010. 
That's jacked up.

I should look at the prices of houses in my county. I'd probably be unpleasantly surprised.
(04-20-2023, 05:04 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2023, 02:17 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Lol, right now in Jax $400k gets you a 60 year old 2 bedroom with no windows or indoor plumbing.

Really? A lot has changed since I left in 2010. 
That's jacked up.

I should look at the prices of houses in my county. I'd probably be unpleasantly surprised.

He is heavily exaggerating; having said that, things are quite a bit more expensive now.
(04-20-2023, 04:57 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]We can thank Black Rock and Vangard for that, even though Mikey has no idea why they would be relevant.

They're both large private investment firms controlling lots of assets.  But what did they do specifically?
I'm starting to believe that there are absolutely ZERO Biden supporters in this country. It's like, we have Trump supporters and we have Never Trumpers who would vote for anyone but Trump. And with RFK Jr. taking away another 14% in the polls from Biden..

Kinda mind blowing if ya think about it.. This guy is such a failure lolol
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1649...MyLGw&s=19

Twitter Community Notes fact checking The President haha

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(04-20-2023, 06:48 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2023, 03:55 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]If the rabbit hole is true, Ukraine has been very important to them. The biolabs have basically already been proven. Trafficking info is coming out now. Baby mills are supposedly part of that and you don't want to go further into the rabbit hole.

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What are you suggesting here? I haven't heard this so I'd like to know what you're talking about.

There is info pre war that Ukraine had a surrogate baby business. Some legal and lots of not legal ones. Reports of children going missing from hospitals and young mothers giving birth and being told the baby died.

That is documented with a few independent journalists and women's rights groups reporting on it.

For the trafficking stuff, there are lots of tunnels throughout Ukraine. This has been shown to be true with Soviet Era maps, current fighting in tunnels, and even some of the salt mines storing tanks and other equipment. Trafficking is everywhere but it supposedly is very high there. Ports access could allow travel all underground and you would never see anything but a ship coming in.

This is where it starts getting bad and is not backed up with verifiable info, it's just bits and pieces of info from random places.

The babies are going somewhere and people aren't adopting them in country. I remember something about women losing at least 1 child during birth and a lot of the women not trusting the hospitals anymore. There were enough rumors that the locals believed the kids were reported as died during or shortly after birth and then sold off. Speculation was that they were not being sold alive. There is enough factual info that a believable story can be told.



Russia PR has reported on the baby mills and then jumping to them destroying shipments and processing centers for some stuff. This cannot be viewed as truthful and hopefully it isn't. The stuff was exposed in the pizza gate story. Whether or not that story is true, the pictures and info came directly from those people and leaks from their communications. I hope it's just crazy conspiracy stuff but it was so messed up that I've never been able to read through the full info that is out there. The pictures of the artwork in their homes is bad enough that they need to be put down. To keep it the as clean as possible, the body releases some chemicals in the bloodstream when you are afraid and others claim it can benefit someone else. Russia says they are putting a stop to the exports.

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(04-20-2023, 02:03 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2023, 08:51 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I have no problem with paying small subsidies to help other folks afford a house. As it states in this article, it equates to about $40 a month for a $400k mortgage. It’s not much. But the very premise of forwarding loans to people with less than ideal credit seems like a recipe for 2008 all over again. 

https://nypost.com/2023/04/16/how-the-us...od-credit/

It would seem to benefit someone to somehow lower their credit score or just not build it so high for this to work in their favor. 

Folks with not excellent credit probably don't need to be buying a $400K house in the first place. 

It's like the industry never learns from the past.

The $400k was an example of what someone would be paying in subsidies, not the subsidy received. I would think the people who are qualifying for a subsidy would be buying houses in the $100-200k range. Regardless, lowering the credit score bar for mortgage applicants is courting trouble. We’ve already seen the results of that practice.
https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/chin...-michigan/

The Chinese won go ahead to build a huge EV battery plant in rural Michigan with land sellers signing NDAs.
(04-21-2023, 11:38 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/chin...-michigan/

The Chinese won go ahead to build a huge EV battery plant in rural Michigan with land sellers signing NDAs.

It's pretty amazing how many American companies have factories or contract with factories in China. And this isn't even a complete list.

https://www.esdaw.eu/american--internati...china.html
American made, baby!
https://news.yahoo.com/pillow-boss-mike-...00951.html

The founder of US bedding company My Pillow has been ordered to pay $5m (£4m) to an expert who proved his 2020 presidential election data was wrong.
Election denier Mike Lindell was so sure he had data showing Chinese interference in the 2020 vote that he threw down the gauntlet to others.
In 2021 he launched "Prove Mike Wrong" with $5m as a winning prize.
On Wednesday, a private arbitration panel ruled that a software expert did exactly that and was due the money.

It's important to note in the interest of accuracy, the challenge wasn't to prove there was no election fraud.  The challenge was to prove Lindell's particular claim was wrong.

Mr Zeidman, a Las Vegas resident who voted twice for Mr Trump, added that some of Mr Lindell's data amounted to "a simple Word document and a table" that was made "to look sophisticated, and it wasn't".
(04-21-2023, 12:41 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-21-2023, 11:38 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/chin...-michigan/

The Chinese won go ahead to build a huge EV battery plant in rural Michigan with land sellers signing NDAs.

It's pretty amazing how many American companies have factories or contract with factories in China.  And this isn't even a complete list.

https://www.esdaw.eu/american--internati...china.html

Are NDAs a practice used by American companies that buy land in the U.S.? That's not intended as a leading question, I genuinely don't know.

(04-22-2023, 06:49 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]https://news.yahoo.com/pillow-boss-mike-...00951.html

The founder of US bedding company My Pillow has been ordered to pay $5m (£4m) to an expert who proved his 2020 presidential election data was wrong.
Election denier Mike Lindell was so sure he had data showing Chinese interference in the 2020 vote that he threw down the gauntlet to others.
In 2021 he launched "Prove Mike Wrong" with $5m as a winning prize.
On Wednesday, a private arbitration panel ruled that a software expert did exactly that and was due the money.

It's important to note in the interest of accuracy, the challenge wasn't to prove there was no election fraud.  The challenge was to prove Lindell's particular claim was wrong.

Mr Zeidman, a Las Vegas resident who voted twice for Mr Trump, added that some of Mr Lindell's data amounted to "a simple Word document and a table" that was made "to look sophisticated, and it wasn't".

I've said it before, Mike Lindell is an idiot. He built up a nice little business empire and is now squandering it over politics.
Women in the military need uniforms and boots made specifically for them and I'd say that's a higher priority than women in a soccer team. But the government cares less than sports brands.

The thing that definitely pissed me off was men had their underwear issued to them but us women had to pay for our sport bras and granny underwear. We had one choice/brand of each in the size closest to what fit us. The socks and boots issued to us were so ill-fitted it was almost comical. I got lucky in that I am 5'10", weighed about 130lbs and wore a size 10 in women's shoes so I fared better than the shorter girls with smaller feet, but it was still just so bad.

I guess the good thing was our underwear weren't poop brown like the men's. Man those things were nasty looking and probably for a reason. Lol.
(04-24-2023, 02:58 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Women in the military need uniforms and boots made specifically for them and I'd say that's a higher priority than women in a soccer team. But the government cares less than sports brands.

The thing that definitely pissed me off was men had their underwear issued to them but us women had to pay for our sport bras and granny underwear. We had one choice/brand of each in the size closest to what fit us. The socks and boots issued to us were so ill-fitted it was almost comical. I got lucky in that I am 5'10", weighed about 130lbs and wore a size 10 in women's shoes so I fared better than the shorter girls with smaller feet, but it was still just so bad.

I guess the good thing was our underwear weren't poop brown like the men's. Man those things were nasty looking and probably for a reason. Lol.

I don't know about uniform issue in basic, but I do know the Navy has had women's uniform items since when I was in.
(04-24-2023, 03:06 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2023, 02:58 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Women in the military need uniforms and boots made specifically for them and I'd say that's a higher priority than women in a soccer team. But the government cares less than sports brands.

The thing that definitely pissed me off was men had their underwear issued to them but us women had to pay for our sport bras and granny underwear. We had one choice/brand of each in the size closest to what fit us. The socks and boots issued to us were so ill-fitted it was almost comical. I got lucky in that I am 5'10", weighed about 130lbs and wore a size 10 in women's shoes so I fared better than the shorter girls with smaller feet, but it was still just so bad.

I guess the good thing was our underwear weren't poop brown like the men's. Man those things were nasty looking and probably for a reason. Lol.

I don't know about uniform issue in basic, but I do know the Navy has had women's uniform items since when I was in.

Only our Class A dress uniform was specific to us. Probably because they were more form fitted and tailored and we had a skirt as well as trousers. Our BDUs and combat boots were unisex.