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(09-18-2024, 12:42 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2024, 12:37 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed that was the final straw. The first one was the states rights issue. They began slinging mud as each party had a different opinion on these matters. Also, on morals which came next. That made it personal. A lot has actually been written on this and like all academics opinions differ. It began the snowball, Burr was vice president at the time too.

No, I really don't think it had anything to do with states' rights.  After all, Hamilton worked to get Jefferson elected, even though Jefferson was the ultimate states' rights guy and Hamilton was the strong-central-government guy.  It was purely personal between Burr and Hamilton.  Hamilton was extremely brilliant, but very abrasive, which is the reason that out of all the founding fathers, he never became President.  He had strong support and strong enemies, and it was not because of his political philosophy, it was because of his personality.  And the way he went after Burr personally is what led Burr to challenge him to the duel.

Yep.
And the "states rights" the Jeffersonians wanted had little to do with what we think of as state powers today.
And the "central banking" that Hamilton wanted was nothing like central banking as we understand it today.
(09-18-2024, 02:06 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2024, 12:42 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]No, I really don't think it had anything to do with states' rights.  After all, Hamilton worked to get Jefferson elected, even though Jefferson was the ultimate states' rights guy and Hamilton was the strong-central-government guy.  It was purely personal between Burr and Hamilton.  Hamilton was extremely brilliant, but very abrasive, which is the reason that out of all the founding fathers, he never became President.  He had strong support and strong enemies, and it was not because of his political philosophy, it was because of his personality.  And the way he went after Burr personally is what led Burr to challenge him to the duel.

Yep.
And the "states rights" the Jeffersonians wanted had little to do with what we think of as state powers today.
And the "central banking" that Hamilton wanted was nothing like central banking as we understand it today.

By the way a big day for the Fed. Currently listening to J. Powell explain the .5% rate cut they just enacted.
(09-18-2024, 02:52 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2024, 02:06 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Yep.
And the "states rights" the Jeffersonians wanted had little to do with what we think of as state powers today.
And the "central banking" that Hamilton wanted was nothing like central banking as we understand it today.

By the way a big day for the Fed. Currently listening to J. Powell explain the .5% rate cut they just enacted.

And here is the cult bemoaning a .5% rate cut:

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1836490587006210471

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1836490587006210471
(09-18-2024, 04:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2024, 02:52 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]By the way a big day for the Fed. Currently listening to J. Powell explain the .5% rate cut they just enacted.

And here is the cult bemoaning a .5% rate cut:

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1836490587006210471

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1836490587006210471
https://youtu.be/_ecuAisJr-A?si=uynhUjTK2Q0TPh6j

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(09-18-2024, 04:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2024, 02:52 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]By the way a big day for the Fed. Currently listening to J. Powell explain the .5% rate cut they just enacted.

And here is the cult bemoaning a .5% rate cut:

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1836490587006210471

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1836490587006210471

Funny thing about Powell's speech he stated the Fed had to discount the Government's employment numbers. Basically they do not believe them as they are overstated. He actually said they have to discount them, I don't blame them as they had to recently "adjust" them a historical record of between 818.000 to 1.2 million.  The job growth being crowed about was fudge. This could have been the reason they went .5% instead of .25% as if the number were accurate they might have cut .25% in July.
(09-18-2024, 04:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2024, 02:52 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]By the way a big day for the Fed. Currently listening to J. Powell explain the .5% rate cut they just enacted.

And here is the cult bemoaning a .5% rate cut:

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1836490587006210471

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1836490587006210471

A .5% cut was too much.  It should have been more like a .25% cut.  The larger cut certainly appears to be political.
https://youtu.be/HWXmfrXNwqw?si=sNX1m-JKPXLBHumn

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(09-18-2024, 04:22 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2024, 04:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]And here is the cult bemoaning a .5% rate cut:

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1836490587006210471

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1836490587006210471

A .5% cut was too much.  It should have been more like a .25% cut.  The larger cut certainly appears to be political.

And that's why they boo'd.. They know it's political and if we were into year 1, 2 or even 3, we would have NEVER seen a cut.. It's the exact same as The Hoe flip flopping in all of her policies..

It's doesn't take a libtard.
Whine like babies about inflation incessantly and then complain about a half percent rate cut. Brilliant.
Mean Tweets..
(09-18-2024, 05:52 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Whine like babies about inflation incessantly and then complain about a half percent rate cut. Brilliant.

Who's whining about the rate cut? They are whining about the smoke and mirrors. You can come back and gloat if Kamala wins and the rates are still dropping a year from now.
(09-17-2024, 10:22 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-17-2024, 09:40 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't agree with reporting names and addresses to the Sheriff's office. This is literally voter intimidation which illegal and it's not right. You want to ship illegals to a blue city or to a politician's office building, fine. What this sheriff says to do? Absolutely not. 

Doxxing and all that BS is just that. BS. Voter intimidation is worse.
Meh. [BLEEP] em". The left didn't mind posting their love or contempt (he missed, omg, why?!?) for the shooter that damn near took Trump's head off on national television. They didn't mind protesting and burning down communities during the summer of love, during CHAZ and now this Pro Palestine nonsense.

Voter intimidation? Spare me. The only thing intimidating in this country now is grocery prices, social media working with Big Brother to censor your political views and the west censoring your freedom of speech.

Hitting on a chick at the bar that might be packin' a hammer in between her legs, and I ain't talkin' about the cold steel variety.  That's also intimidating. I don't envy today's generation out there trying to find their she or he in a sea filled with a bunch of they/them/Zi/Zay/Sim-Sim-Sala-Bin.

Still. I am standing on business. If the bleeding heart blue bloods from the Democratic party want this woman in office? They should be the first ones in line to offer up room and board for the influx of illegals coming on in.

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I don't disagree with this but an elected official shouldn't be encouraging people to bully each other. All he needs is some kid in his town to end up dead because of bullying from classmates and this guy has to stand in front of tv cameras and say something about how 'this behavior is against what we stand for and we will investigate this matter and make sure the bad guys are punished'. 

Yeah, that will go over well when the dead kid's parents say in front of those same cameras the offenders were following the example of local law and order. 

That will turn into a [BLEEP] storm real quick. 

There are no easy answers to all the crazy we're seeing.
(09-18-2024, 10:15 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-17-2024, 10:22 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Meh. [BLEEP] em". The left didn't mind posting their love or contempt (he missed, omg, why?!?) for the shooter that damn near took Trump's head off on national television. They didn't mind protesting and burning down communities during the summer of love, during CHAZ and now this Pro Palestine nonsense.

Voter intimidation? Spare me. The only thing intimidating in this country now is grocery prices, social media working with Big Brother to censor your political views and the west censoring your freedom of speech.

Hitting on a chick at the bar that might be packin' a hammer in between her legs, and I ain't talkin' about the cold steel variety.  That's also intimidating. I don't envy today's generation out there trying to find their she or he in a sea filled with a bunch of they/them/Zi/Zay/Sim-Sim-Sala-Bin.

Still. I am standing on business. If the bleeding heart blue bloods from the Democratic party want this woman in office? They should be the first ones in line to offer up room and board for the influx of illegals coming on in.

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I don't disagree with this but an elected official shouldn't be encouraging people to bully each other. All he needs is some kid in his town to end up dead because of bullying from classmates and this guy has to stand in front of tv cameras and say something about how 'this behavior is against what we stand for and we will investigate this matter and make sure the bad guys are punished'. 

Yeah, that will go over well when the dead kid's parents say in front of those same cameras the offenders were following the example of local law and order. 

That will turn into a [BLEEP] storm real quick. 

There are no easy answers to all the crazy we're seeing.

There's always an easy answer to crazy. Two in fact. (1) Ignore it, (2) if you must engage it, be nice.

It really never gets more complicated than that. We (myself included) just want it to be more complicated because ignoring it or being nice usually doesn't feel good and isn't very fun.
(09-18-2024, 04:22 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2024, 04:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]And here is the cult bemoaning a .5% rate cut:

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1836490587006210471

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1836490587006210471

A .5% cut was too much.  It should have been more like a .25% cut.  The larger cut certainly appears to be political.

So you think Powell wants Harris to be President and not Trump?

I suppose that's possible.  A lot of people have seen Trump up close from when he was President, and they don't think he should be President again.  Powell may be one of them.  

The rate cut might push the stock market higher, but as you know, any real effect on the economy would take many months, way beyond the election.
(09-18-2024, 10:25 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2024, 10:15 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't disagree with this but an elected official shouldn't be encouraging people to bully each other. All he needs is some kid in his town to end up dead because of bullying from classmates and this guy has to stand in front of tv cameras and say something about how 'this behavior is against what we stand for and we will investigate this matter and make sure the bad guys are punished'. 

Yeah, that will go over well when the dead kid's parents say in front of those same cameras the offenders were following the example of local law and order. 

That will turn into a [BLEEP] storm real quick. 

There are no easy answers to all the crazy we're seeing.

There's always an easy answer to crazy. Two in fact. (1) Ignore it, (2) if you must engage it, be nice.

It really never gets more complicated than that. We (myself included) just want it to be more complicated because ignoring it or being nice usually doesn't feel good and isn't very fun.

When you take a look at our political climate? At least since 9/11? Today's temperature was inevitable. From both sides of the argument and aisle, in reality, isle. Because it does feel like we're on our own individual islands here and slinging rocks, spears and arrows with vicious rhetoric, and, in some extreme cases, actual objects to cause harm. 

I just find it ironic, where, I see the usual suspects from both sides on here talking a really big game, and [BLEEP] this and [BLEEP] that, and she's a this and he's a that, etc. Yet, when people start calling for actual actions to support and back said claims? It's:

[Image: joe-17-whoa-biden.gif]

You can't be a pimp and a prostitute too. Censorship is getting worse. The laws are getting worse. The lunacy, from both sides, is getting worse. A lot of free speech for the dumb out there. It's a two way street. Like I said earlier, I try to be fair. I try to remain fair in how I view things situation by situation. 

Again, for me, it goes back to not just one, but now, two, TWO attempts on taking out a strong political candidate here in our country. It obviously goes back further than actual attempts on his life, through the weaponization of the legal system, the media portrayal, etc. 

It's demoralizing. Have we forgotten already just how ugly the media and the people were towards law enforcement a few years ago? During covid? Calling for their defunding, their lives to be taken, for it to be open season on "pigs", and now, when we see stories like that disaster in Colorado with Venezuelan gangs taking over apartment complexes, Haitians eating pets, children being raped and murdered or struck by illegals driving vehicles they shouldn't be driving to begin with, we're going to act stunned or surprised or call for "common sense" with these guys when they've been beaten into the ground and demoralized by the very people they were told to protect?

Do I fully agree with what he said? No. Do I understand his frustrations and why he said it along with his intent? Absolutely. You reap what you sow here. At least, you SHOULD. Again, a lot of us are potentially fixing to get royally [BLEEP] over if this woman wins and gets into office. And, a lot of her supporters, they won't have to deal with the repercussions of their voting decisions directly. They won't see these illegal immigrants that cannot assimilate to our society from their backyard, they won't have to care. Out of sight, out of mind. 

People should be forced to see the consequences of their ignorance. Front and [BLEEP] center. They should be made, just like a puppy, to have their noses shoved in the [BLEEP] that they've plopped down in our living room floors, our kid's school's, our local communities that are trying to hold on by a thread out here while the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. 

So, once again, spare me, and [BLEEP] em'. 

"Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius". "Vae Victis". 

Better them than me and my family.
People are pissed and rightfully so..

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/18...3zevw&s=19
Love it!!

https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/183656...JoFOg&s=19

BREAKING: Trump announces that as president, he will immediately implement a temporary 10% cap on credit card interest rates

"We can't let them make it 25% and 30%."

Credit card interest rates are at a historic high under the Kamala-Biden regime. His simple plan will alleviate a lot of pressure from hundreds of millions of Americans.

I'm running out of words to describe how good his policy proposals will be.
(09-19-2024, 10:05 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Love it!!

https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/183656...JoFOg&s=19

BREAKING: Trump announces that as president, he will immediately implement a temporary 10% cap on credit card interest rates

"We can't let them make it 25% and 30%."

Credit card interest rates are at a historic high under the Kamala-Biden regime. His simple plan will alleviate a lot of pressure from hundreds of millions of Americans.

I'm running out of words to describe how good his policy proposals will be.

I don't think the President has that power unless there is an emergency or new legislation.
(09-19-2024, 10:12 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-19-2024, 10:05 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Love it!!

https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/183656...JoFOg&s=19

BREAKING: Trump announces that as president, he will immediately implement a temporary 10% cap on credit card interest rates

"We can't let them make it 25% and 30%."

Credit card interest rates are at a historic high under the Kamala-Biden regime. His simple plan will alleviate a lot of pressure from hundreds of millions of Americans.

I'm running out of words to describe how good his policy proposals will be.

I don't think the President has that power unless there is an emergency or new legislation.

Like Biden doesn't have the power to close the Border?
Opinion  Trump disavowed Project 2025. But Harris still owns her Project 2019.

“…Unlike Project 2025, which Trump has never embraced, Harris is on record as having supported the following Project 2019 policies:
Banning the sale of gas-powered cars. In April 2019, Harris co-sponsored the Zero-Emission Vehicles Act in the Senate, which would have banned the sale of gas-powered vehicles by 2040. Then, during her 2019 campaign, Harris promised to implement an “accelerated model” of the act that would move the target ahead to 2035.

A federal ban on fracking. At CNN’s September 2019 town hall on the climate crisis, Harris declared, “There’s no question I’m in favor of banning fracking.” She pledged to end fossil fuel leases on public lands as well as all offshore drilling, and to weaponize her Justice Department to go after oil and gas companies that have directly impacted global warming, telling the audience she will “take them to court and sue them.”

Ending private health insurance. In 2017, she was the first Democrat to co-sponsor Sen. Bernie Sanders’s Medicare for All Act, which would have abolished private health insurance and replaced it with a government-run single-payer system. In 2019, she reaffirmed that position. Asked by CNN’s Jake Tapper at a January 2019 town hall whether she would “totally eliminate private insurance,” Harris said yes. “The idea is that everyone gets access to medical care, and you don’t have to go through the process of going through an insurance company, having them give you approval,” she told Tapper, adding: “Let’s eliminate all of that. Let’s move on.”

The Green New Deal. In 2019, Harris co-sponsored the radical Green New Deal. As a candidate, she unveiled her own plan to spend $10 trillion to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, with a goal of getting to a carbon-neutral economy by 2045. And she vowed to ram it through the Senate with a simple majority, declaring on CNN, “If they fail to act, as president of the United States, I am prepared to get rid of the filibuster to pass a Green New Deal.”
Decriminalizing illegal border crossings. In 2019, Harris raised her hand during a Democratic debate when asked if she supported decriminalizing border crossings. In an interview that same year, she declared, “I am in favor of saying that we’re not going to treat people who are undocumented and cross the border as criminals.”

Defunding Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Asked in 2019 if she supported abolishing ICE, Harris replied: “We’ve got to critically reexamine ICE and its role and the way that it is being administered and the work it is doing, and we need to probably think about starting from scratch.” In an ACLU questionnaire, Harris boasted that she “was one of the first Senators after President Trump was elected to advocate for a decrease in funding to ICE” and promised that, as president, she would slash ICE detentions by at least 50 percent.

Health care for illegal migrants. During her 2019 campaign, Harris came out in favor of providing taxpayer-funded health care for illegal migrants, telling CNN: “Let me just be very clear about this. I am opposed to any policy that would deny in our country any human being from access to public safety, public education or public health, period.” And in the ACLU questionnaire, she promised that this coverage would include gender transition surgery for migrants held in federal immigration detention.

Decriminalizing drug possession. Asked by the ACLU, “Will you support the decriminalization at the federal level of all drug possession for personal use?,” Harris answered yes.

Bailing out violent criminals, defunding the police and letting felons vote. Harris raised money for a bail fund that helped put violent criminals back on the streets. Asked by CNN’s Don Lemon whether “people who are convicted, in prison like the Boston Marathon bomber, on death row, people who are convicted of sexual assault,” should be able to vote, Harris replied, “I think we should have that conversation.” She has also praised the “defund the police” movement.
Mandatory gun buybacks. While running for president in 2019, Harris said at a gun safety forum in Las Vegas that she supported forcing owners of millions of so-called assault weapons to give them up, telling MSNBC, “We have to have a buyback program, and I support a mandatory buyback program.”

Court-packing. In 2019, Harris was asked about the possibility of adding up to four seats to the Supreme Court. She said she was “open to this conversation.” Two months earlier, she had told Politico that “everything is on the table” when it comes to the court.

Proposing $46 trillion in new spending. Manhattan Institute budget expert Brian Riedl went through all of Harris’s 2019 campaign pledges to see how much they cost. He found that she had proposed a mind-boggling $46 trillion in new government spending over a decade…”
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