(12-05-2023, 10:07 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0fHc0bBT...ODBiNWFlZA==
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Unfortunately, true. And I’m for DeSantis. I will not vote for Trump in a primary. But if he’s the nominee, I have no other viable choice. No third-party candidate can win. And I’ll never vote for a communist = Democrat.
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(12-05-2023, 10:35 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ] (12-05-2023, 10:07 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0fHc0bBT...ODBiNWFlZA==
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Unfortunately, true. And I’m for DeSantis. I will not vote for Trump in a primary. But if he’s the nominee, I have no other viable choice. No third-party candidate can win. And I’ll never vote for a communist = Democrat.
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What do you mean viable? Lots of people write in, vote minor parties, or abstain. There's no rule that says you have to vote and no rule that says you have to vote for someone who has a chance of winning.
(12-01-2023, 09:23 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]This is weird.
Twice in the last month John Fetterman had said and done things I agree with. The first one was waving an Israeli flag at idiot robot protesters for Palestine. The second was this:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...r-AA1kRCBb
(12-04-2023, 07:16 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2023, 09:23 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]This is weird.
Twice in the last month John Fetterman had said and done things I agree with. The first one was waving an Israeli flag at idiot robot protesters for Palestine. The second was this:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...r-AA1kRCBb
Here's one for you. Fetterman is on a roll. Lol.
https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status...s-cameo%2F
Was the guy replaced? He definitely was all in liberal but then goes away and now is saying this stuff?
So were all the crazy memes with 5 or 6 different versions of pictures of him real?
Did his stay in the mental health facility cure his liberal mental illness?
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(12-05-2023, 11:43 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (12-05-2023, 10:35 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]Unfortunately, true. And I’m for DeSantis. I will not vote for Trump in a primary. But if he’s the nominee, I have no other viable choice. No third-party candidate can win. And I’ll never vote for a communist = Democrat.
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What do you mean viable? Lots of people write in, vote minor parties, or abstain. There's no rule that says you have to vote and no rule that says you have to vote for someone who has a chance of winning.
The point of voting is to elect the person least different from your views/values. It serves no purpose to virtue signal with a third party candidate because the only vote that counts in presidential elections is the electoral vote. And only a D or an R can amass enough votes to win those.
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(12-06-2023, 04:08 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ] (12-05-2023, 11:43 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]What do you mean viable? Lots of people write in, vote minor parties, or abstain. There's no rule that says you have to vote and no rule that says you have to vote for someone who has a chance of winning.
The point of voting is to elect the person least different from your views/values. It serves no purpose to virtue signal with a third party candidate because the only vote that counts in presidential elections is the electoral vote. And only a D or an R can amass enough votes to win those.
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That's one possible motive. People have other motives though. A lot of people feel like there isn't much meaningful difference between the two candidates, depending on the year.
But more to the point, how can a guy who *literally doesn't believe in counting votes* be "least different" from your views about how government should work? Do you believe in counting votes? He doesn't. It's like signing a contract with a guy who doesn't believe in contracts. How does that compute?
I thought I wanted to watch the Republican debate on News Nation. After the first volley I quickly changed my mind. Ain't got no time for dat.
I’m about to make some popcorn. This fight between Vivek and Christie is some good stuff.
This debate is a good one. Wow lol
Chris Christie with his closing statement..
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(12-06-2023, 07:15 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (12-06-2023, 04:08 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]The point of voting is to elect the person least different from your views/values. It serves no purpose to virtue signal with a third party candidate because the only vote that counts in presidential elections is the electoral vote. And only a D or an R can amass enough votes to win those.
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That's one possible motive. People have other motives though. A lot of people feel like there isn't much meaningful difference between the two candidates, depending on the year.
But more to the point, how can a guy who *literally doesn't believe in counting votes* be "least different" from your views about how government should work? Do you believe in counting votes? He doesn't. It's like signing a contract with a guy who doesn't believe in contracts. How does that compute?
He does literally believe in counting the votes, but only ones actually and legally cast.
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(12-06-2023, 09:31 PM)Jagger Wrote: [ -> ]I’m about to make some popcorn. This fight between Vivek and Christie is some good stuff.
But they are both irrelevant. To me, it serves no good purpose to allow them to waste airtime.
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I watched the back half of the debate. I agreed with a lot of what was said. All of them but maybe Christie promised to do things Presidents can't actually unilaterally do. And I was disturbed at the end how all of them went after vaccines. Both of these ideas are cancerous to our country. The more Presidential candidates promise to do things unilaterally that they don't have the power to do, the more primed we will be to accept a real dictator when he comes. And the more we indulge in vaccine skepticism and other forms of reality denial, the more damage that dictator will be able to do to our way of life once he has power. It's bad enough if we flatten the government out to "what he says goes" but what if we let the guy say completely illogical stuff while he's up there? Big Brother says the chocolate ration was increased to 20 grams. I have in my hand last week's chocolate wrapper and it's marked 30 grams. But I have been trained to deny evidence of my eyes and ears when Big Brother, whom I love, tells me otherwise. We have so many studies showing the vaccines work and cause much less harm than they prevent, but that doesn't matter. The GOP needs us to doubt that. It's not enough for the Party to just say "the mandates were wrong" (most of them were, only health care workers should have been mandated, not police and not military) but they feel a need to go after the whole thing and say vaccine manufacturers should be sued. They know better. But they reject their own logic and and their own ability to see facts and say things that the Party needs them to say.
Maybe I shouldn't be concerned about that. But I am.