(05-01-2023, 05:52 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/JDunlap1974/status/1...opGlA&s=19
lololol
https://twitter.com/PaulMitchell_AB/stat...22948?s=20
I wonder if his Messiah Obama will bail him out.. Ya know, since he helped so much with his campaign lolol
We need more independent prosecution. Low's efforts to launder money for political influence required him to recruit many people, many of whom must have tipped off the FEC and the FBI right away. But of course Obama's prosecutors sat on that info. Then four years later, the records were that much harder for Trump's people to delve into.
But if you think there wasn't any crooked person like Low or Pras helping raise money for Trump, you're deluding yourself. At least Trump's DoJ had some willingness to go after such people while Trump was still in office.
The solution is there needs to be permanently appointed prosecutors that investigate the executive branch officials and who only answer to Congress.
(05-01-2023, 09:58 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2023, 05:52 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/JDunlap1974/status/1...opGlA&s=19
lololol
https://twitter.com/PaulMitchell_AB/stat...22948?s=20
I wonder if his Messiah Obama will bail him out.. Ya know, since he helped so much with his campaign lolol
We need more independent prosecution. Low's efforts to launder money for political influence required him to recruit many people, many of whom must have tipped off the FEC and the FBI right away. But of course Obama's prosecutors sat on that info. Then four years later, the records were that much harder for Trump to delve into.
But if you think there wasn't any crooked person like Low or Pras helping raise money for Trump, you're deluding yourself. At least Trump's DoJ had some willingness to go after such people while Trump was still in office.
The solution is there needs to be permanently appointed prosecutors that investigate the executive branch officials and who only answer to Congress.
But but but but Trump!!!
lolololololol
You libs are so entertaining lololol
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(05-01-2023, 09:58 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2023, 05:52 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/JDunlap1974/status/1...opGlA&s=19
lololol
https://twitter.com/PaulMitchell_AB/stat...22948?s=20
I wonder if his Messiah Obama will bail him out.. Ya know, since he helped so much with his campaign lolol
We need more independent prosecution. Low's efforts to launder money for political influence required him to recruit many people, many of whom must have tipped off the FEC and the FBI right away. But of course Obama's prosecutors sat on that info. Then four years later, the records were that much harder for Trump to delve into.
But if you think there wasn't any crooked person like Low or Pras helping raise money for Trump, you're deluding yourself. At least Trump's DoJ had some willingness to go after such people while Trump was still in office.
The solution is there needs to be permanently appointed prosecutors that investigate the executive branch officials and who only answer to Congress.
Fascinating. Your eagerness to rub some of Obama's stank off on Trump is based purely off your own speculation. You just simply made up a story to deflect blame onto Trump.
(05-01-2023, 10:13 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2023, 09:58 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]We need more independent prosecution. Low's efforts to launder money for political influence required him to recruit many people, many of whom must have tipped off the FEC and the FBI right away. But of course Obama's prosecutors sat on that info. Then four years later, the records were that much harder for Trump to delve into.
But if you think there wasn't any crooked person like Low or Pras helping raise money for Trump, you're deluding yourself. At least Trump's DoJ had some willingness to go after such people while Trump was still in office.
The solution is there needs to be permanently appointed prosecutors that investigate the executive branch officials and who only answer to Congress.
Fascinating. Your eagerness to rub some of Obama's stank off on Trump is based purely off your own speculation. You just simply made up a story to deflect blame onto Trump.
Right?!?
Just wait. He'll come back with an NPR article lololol
(05-01-2023, 10:13 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2023, 09:58 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]We need more independent prosecution. Low's efforts to launder money for political influence required him to recruit many people, many of whom must have tipped off the FEC and the FBI right away. But of course Obama's prosecutors sat on that info. Then four years later, the records were that much harder for Trump to delve into.
But if you think there wasn't any crooked person like Low or Pras helping raise money for Trump, you're deluding yourself. At least Trump's DoJ had some willingness to go after such people while Trump was still in office.
The solution is there needs to be permanently appointed prosecutors that investigate the executive branch officials and who only answer to Congress.
Fascinating. Your eagerness to rub some of Obama's stank off on Trump is based purely off your own speculation. You just simply made up a story to deflect blame onto Trump.
Ever heard of Brian Kolfage? There will be more names. Give it another four years to come to light. Apparently that's how long these things take now.
Paul Manafort ran the Trump campaign. If you think we won't uncover more dirty tricks that campaign did in the years to come, you're very naive. Manafort obviously was already under federal investigation at the time and offered his service to Trump for free, hoping Trump would win and make the investigations go away. To his credit, Trump did not do this. But that's my point. Crooked people hunting for favors worked for both campaigns. If you're going to blame Obama for accepting that kind of help, you have to blame Trump too. The difference is, so far as we can tell, Trump didn't return those favors. He didn't shield his friends from prosecution, though he did pardon some of them. But is that because Trump has this superior moral compass, or just that he never understood how these kinds of games are played? Or does he just not care about anyone other than himself? With Obama, it's clear, he was smart and played the game of corruption as well as anyone, and played it cool to divert all attention away from it. Trump's motives are more opaque.
Sure. It's not like we didn't have a massive investigation that cost millions, only to find out Democrats colluded with Russia. You don't care about the truth. Just admit it.
(05-01-2023, 10:52 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2023, 10:13 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Fascinating. Your eagerness to rub some of Obama's stank off on Trump is based purely off your own speculation. You just simply made up a story to deflect blame onto Trump.
Ever heard of Brian Kolfage? There will be more names. Give it another four years to come to light. Apparently that's how long these things take now.
Paul Manafort ran the Trump campaign. If you think we won't uncover more dirty tricks that campaign did in the years to come, you're very naive. Manafort obviously was already under federal investigation at the time and offered his service to Trump for free, hoping Trump would win and make the investigations go away. To his credit, Trump did not do this. But that's my point. Crooked people hunting for favors worked for both campaigns. If you're going to blame Obama for accepting that kind of help, you have to blame Trump too. The difference is, so far as we can tell, Trump didn't return those favors. He didn't shield his friends from prosecution, though he did pardon some of them. But is that because Trump has this superior moral compass, or just that he never understood how these kinds of games are played? Or does he just not care about anyone other than himself? With Obama, it's clear, he was smart and played the game of corruption as well as anyone, and played it cool to divert all attention away from it. Trump's motives are more opaque.
Speculation supported with conjecture. Now we’re cooking with oil.
(05-02-2023, 06:24 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2023, 10:52 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Ever heard of Brian Kolfage? There will be more names. Give it another four years to come to light. Apparently that's how long these things take now.
Paul Manafort ran the Trump campaign. If you think we won't uncover more dirty tricks that campaign did in the years to come, you're very naive. Manafort obviously was already under federal investigation at the time and offered his service to Trump for free, hoping Trump would win and make the investigations go away. To his credit, Trump did not do this. But that's my point. Crooked people hunting for favors worked for both campaigns. If you're going to blame Obama for accepting that kind of help, you have to blame Trump too. The difference is, so far as we can tell, Trump didn't return those favors. He didn't shield his friends from prosecution, though he did pardon some of them. But is that because Trump has this superior moral compass, or just that he never understood how these kinds of games are played? Or does he just not care about anyone other than himself? With Obama, it's clear, he was smart and played the game of corruption as well as anyone, and played it cool to divert all attention away from it. Trump's motives are more opaque.
Speculation supported with conjecture. Now we’re cooking with oil.
Manafort's involvement and motives are just conjecture now?
The We Build The Wall guys are serving time over speculation?
(05-02-2023, 07:24 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (05-02-2023, 06:24 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Speculation supported with conjecture. Now we’re cooking with oil.
Manafort's involvement and motives are just conjecture now?
The We Build The Wall guys are serving time over speculation?
Manafort’s misdeeds are different than Obama’s lackey, but I understand now you’re saying that all presidents have dirty laundry. This is true. You evoked Trump’s name out of habit. Is that a fair statement?
https://twitter.com/brandootr/status/165...a1Izg&s=19
If they choose to do this to themselves,
#1, their doctor should be behind bars, but since we're living in Bizzaro World where only the innocent get punished, we can assume nothing will happen to their doctor..
#2 They better not be given Handicapped Benefits, such as government payments all the way down to Parking Placards..
Someone will end up getting shot over that stuff. There's some handicapped out there that just don't give a [BLEEP] anymore. They'll take em out for good and then they can identify as a corpse lolol
(05-02-2023, 09:56 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (05-02-2023, 07:24 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Manafort's involvement and motives are just conjecture now?
The We Build The Wall guys are serving time over speculation?
Manafort’s misdeeds are different than Obama’s lackey, but I understand now you’re saying that all presidents have dirty laundry. This is true. You evoked Trump’s name out of habit. Is that a fair statement?
I provided context to the news Winger shared in a fair, factual, and even-handed way. I did not excuse the misdeeds of Democrats, in fact I joined you in condemning them. But I sensed Winger's motive was to vindicate Republicans, so I thought context was needed. But neither you nor Winger nor L2L could bear to hear it. Is that a fair statement?
You ever read 2 Timothy 4:3?
You don't care about truth, Mikey. You can't even put in basic work to prove your claims. I can assure you that I can bear to hear anything. I'm not weak.
(05-02-2023, 11:32 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (05-02-2023, 09:56 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Manafort’s misdeeds are different than Obama’s lackey, but I understand now you’re saying that all presidents have dirty laundry. This is true. You evoked Trump’s name out of habit. Is that a fair statement?
I provided context to the news Winger shared in a fair, factual, and even-handed way. I did not excuse the misdeeds of Democrats, in fact I joined you in condemning them. But I sensed Winger's motive was to vindicate Republicans, so I thought context was needed. But neither you nor Winger nor L2L could bear to hear it. Is that a fair statement?
You ever read 2 Timothy 4:3?
I get it, but just so we don’t get distracted from the origin of this debate, Obama took millions from the CCP and Trump did not. Fair enough?
Also, how do you "sense" Winger's motives? He is posting about potential corruption that won't get ANY play in the MSM. That's it. That's the whole of it. Where is he attempting to vindicate Republicans?
(05-02-2023, 11:53 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (05-02-2023, 11:32 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I provided context to the news Winger shared in a fair, factual, and even-handed way. I did not excuse the misdeeds of Democrats, in fact I joined you in condemning them. But I sensed Winger's motive was to vindicate Republicans, so I thought context was needed. But neither you nor Winger nor L2L could bear to hear it. Is that a fair statement?
You ever read 2 Timothy 4:3?
I get it, but just so we don’t get distracted from the origin of this debate, Obama took millions from the CCP and Trump did not. Fair enough?
Obama can plausibly deny that he knew the money was from the CCP when he took it.
Just like Trump can plausibly deny he knew Manafort was on Russia's payroll during their time together.
(05-02-2023, 12:01 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Also, how do you "sense" Winger's motives? He is posting about potential corruption that won't get ANY play in the MSM. That's it. That's the whole of it. Where is he attempting to vindicate Republicans?
He loves me lol
He probably thinks I'm some sort of staunch Republican who only backs Republicans.. And it used to really be that way. But I just can't in good conscience anymore. These Republicans can be just as awful as the Democrats.
That's why I'm strictly policy driven now.
Believe it or not, if a Democrat ran on Trump's policies, they would most likely receive my vote.
But that's not happening any time soon..
Any calls to investigate Obama? Where are those in the msm?
(05-02-2023, 03:22 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Any calls to investigate Obama? Where are those in the msm?
He's not in office nor is he running for office. The MSM called for Hillary to be investigated in 2016 and they agree Hunter should be investigated now.