(04-25-2024, 08:17 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ] (04-25-2024, 08:04 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Nonsense, political protests are protected speech. If you choose the path you're on eventually it will be your speech that's censored. The best disinfectant for heinous thoughts is sunlight in the Public Square.
Harvard is a private institution. I'm fine with taking away their tax dollars but you can't just destroy an institution you don't like. instead why don't you get out there and fight their ideas with your superior ones?
That's the caveat of the first amendment.
Say what you want, insult who you want; you just can't threaten people. Which is what these morons do, but hey if it's against those rotten Jews who cares?
Sure you can, don't you do it against those rotten liberal American citizens you guys were talking about deporting just a bit ago? Sure you do, you're just ok when you do it. Sounds pretty familiar actually, like the other side of a coin. There is no caveat to political speech. You can even say completely un-American things like clamor for censorship of 1st Amendment rights and not be arrested for it. Because that's how and why America works.
(04-25-2024, 08:31 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (04-25-2024, 08:17 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ]That's the caveat of the first amendment.
Say what you want, insult who you want; you just can't threaten people. Which is what these morons do, but hey if it's against those rotten Jews who cares?
Sure you can, don't you do it against those rotten liberal American citizens you guys were talking about deporting just a bit ago? Sure you do, you're just ok when you do it. Sounds pretty familiar actually, like the other side of a coin. There is no caveat to political speech. You can even say completely un-American things like clamor for censorship of 1st Amendment rights and not be arrested for it. Because that's how and why America works.
The difference is that these institutions are receiving government funding and donations to teach these "values"..
Maybe we as Americans should demand an audit of our funds going to these Ivy League hate-filled whorehouses..
(04-25-2024, 08:31 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (04-25-2024, 08:17 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ]That's the caveat of the first amendment.
Say what you want, insult who you want; you just can't threaten people. Which is what these morons do, but hey if it's against those rotten Jews who cares?
Sure you can, don't you do it against those rotten liberal American citizens you guys were talking about deporting just a bit ago? Sure you do, you're just ok when you do it. Sounds pretty familiar actually, like the other side of a coin. There is no caveat to political speech. You can even say completely un-American things like clamor for censorship of 1st Amendment rights and not be arrested for it. Because that's how and why America works.
Death to the Jews is not protected speech. Sorry. Death to America can be argued.
(04-25-2024, 08:58 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (04-25-2024, 08:31 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Sure you can, don't you do it against those rotten liberal American citizens you guys were talking about deporting just a bit ago? Sure you do, you're just ok when you do it. Sounds pretty familiar actually, like the other side of a coin. There is no caveat to political speech. You can even say completely un-American things like clamor for censorship of 1st Amendment rights and not be arrested for it. Because that's how and why America works.
Death to the Jews is not protected speech. Sorry. Death to America can be argued.
Agreed, but an anti-Israel or pro-Palestine protest doesn't always say "death to Jews".
Also, "Death to Hamas" is not hate speech, but "death to Gazans" or "death to Palestinians" is hate speech. So we also walk a fine line.
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/...Gxrog&s=19
“After listening to arguments at the Supreme Court, it’s clear the justices will narrowly hold the President of the United States—any president—is immune from criminal prosecution for official (not personal) acts," the Article 3 Project's Legal Analyst @mrddmia said in an official statement.
"Additionally or alternatively, the Court will reaffirm criminal statutes do not apply to the President, unless they are explicit. The Court will remand Jack Smith’s January 6th case to DC Obama Judge Tanya Chutkan for an evidentiary hearing. Her decision is immediately appealable to the DC Circuit, and the Supreme Court could take the case again before trial."
"The Court’s likely holding will also substantially affect Fani Willis’ January 6th case—and may affect Jack Smith’s presidential-records case. And the Supreme Court’s Fischer decision on obstruction will likely destroy two of Jack Smith’s four January 6th charges against Trump. Only 20% of Jack Smith’s January 6th case will remain. The case will not get tried before the election."
“Bottom line: This will become a historic win for President Trump—and the presidency and our country. This is a big step toward undoing the Democrats’ republic-ending lawfare and election interference against President Trump."
"More legal analysis from Mike Davis:
“Biden is attempting to establish a dangerous precedent that presidents can face prosecution for their official acts. If presidential immunity doesn’t exist, then a Trump 47 Justice Department could prosecute Barack Obama for capital murder for ordering a drone strike on two American citizens, one of whom was a minor. Joe Biden could also face prosecution for his illegal mass-parole of millions of illegal immigrants—and their resulting crimes. George Bush and Dick Cheney could face prosecution if they lied to drive us into the Iraq War. This is not a path we want to go down as a country. This unfounded assault on Joe Biden’s chief political opponent is a grave threat to our system of government."
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(04-25-2024, 08:58 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (04-25-2024, 08:31 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Sure you can, don't you do it against those rotten liberal American citizens you guys were talking about deporting just a bit ago? Sure you do, you're just ok when you do it. Sounds pretty familiar actually, like the other side of a coin. There is no caveat to political speech. You can even say completely un-American things like clamor for censorship of 1st Amendment rights and not be arrested for it. Because that's how and why America works.
Death to the Jews is not protected speech. Sorry. Death to America can be argued.
Sure it is, Jews, Israel, and Zionism are conflated...you know this. Regardless, if I say "death to the Ukrainians" it's not a crime or worthy of violating the 1st Amendment.
(04-25-2024, 08:37 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (04-25-2024, 08:31 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Sure you can, don't you do it against those rotten liberal American citizens you guys were talking about deporting just a bit ago? Sure you do, you're just ok when you do it. Sounds pretty familiar actually, like the other side of a coin. There is no caveat to political speech. You can even say completely un-American things like clamor for censorship of 1st Amendment rights and not be arrested for it. Because that's how and why America works.
The difference is that these institutions are receiving government funding and donations to teach these "values"..
Maybe we as Americans should demand an audit of our funds going to these Ivy League hate-filled whorehouses..
I'm fine with that, that's not what I'm arguing. I'm a free speech absolutist. I will not stand for censorship in the political arena, even of ideas I personally find abhorrent. Once we start down that road we all end up being silenced. I'd rather let the Mikesezs of the world blather on so everyone can see how bad the ideas are.
https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/17...evReg&s=19
Moments ago at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia, hundreds of students, pro-Palestine protesters, and other activists gathered in large numbers where Georgia police are making mass arrests, tasering people, launching tear gas, and reportedly firing rounds of rubber bullets at crowds and protesters. Activists and students have set up a Gaza solidarity encampment at the university. The number of arrests is not known at this time, along with clashes where bottles and other items are being thrown at police.
(04-25-2024, 01:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (04-25-2024, 08:58 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Death to the Jews is not protected speech. Sorry. Death to America can be argued.
Sure it is, Jews, Israel, and Zionism are conflated...you know this. Regardless, if I say "death to the Ukrainians" it's not a crime or worthy of violating the 1st Amendment.
(04-25-2024, 08:37 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]The difference is that these institutions are receiving government funding and donations to teach these "values"..
Maybe we as Americans should demand an audit of our funds going to these Ivy League hate-filled whorehouses..
I'm fine with that, that's not what I'm arguing. I'm a free speech absolutist. I will not stand for censorship in the political arena, even of ideas I personally find abhorrent. Once we start down that road we all end up being silenced. I'd rather let the Mikesezs of the world blather on so everyone can see how bad the ideas are.
That's why I always say, just keep feeding them the rope..
https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/17...EDNPQ&s=19
The comment came after Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh cornered Dreeben by asking him about presidential immunity and why Obama was never prosecuted.
Dreeben said the drone strikes were totally fine because the "Office of Legal Counsel looked at this very carefully."
https://twitter.com/MaryyFrost/status/17...ao5lA&s=19
Alito: “If an incumbent who loses a very close, hotly contested election and knows that a real possibility after leaving office is not that the president is going to be able to go off into a peaceful retirement, but that the president may be criminally prosecuted by a bitter political opponent, will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy?”
https://twitter.com/IanJaeger29/status/1...PFP8A&s=19
"I am concerned about future uses of criminal law to target political opponents based on accusations about their motives."
https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/17...3g0fg&s=19
As the men were fighting, the bus continued down the road and eventually crashed into a building.
Harrison tried fleeing the scene but was caught by police and arrested.
Thankfully, the driver was fine besides minor injuries including bumps and bruises.