(06-30-2022, 04:19 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (06-30-2022, 04:09 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]I can count on one hand the number of politicians I would cast a vote for President without holding my nose. She's become one of them.
You are biased toward females. If I recall correctly from another post of yours, I believe you indicated that you'd consider voting for Pelosi, Harris, Warren, and Nkki Haley
Uh...no. You have me confused with someone else. Pelosi??? Kackula?? Pocohantas? LOL. You should know better if you know anything about me from my posts. Not even at gunpoint. DeSantis would also be on my list, and I'm pretty sure he's not female. Dan Crenshaw would be another.
I'm assuming/hoping sarcasm here...
(06-30-2022, 11:11 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure why Gabbard is still a Democrat. She has shifted many of her positions to Center-Right and Right. She's still got a few that would be considered Center-Left; drug policy, health care, Green New Deal, but by in large, she seems like a Center-Right politician. She'd make a great Independent, but there doesn't seem to be a big money machine to help fuel an independent campaign for President. If she's serious, she'll have to make a choice soon.
She's WEF young leaders. She says the right things a lot but she needs a lot of research into her past. She could be bought and paid for in case the Dems need to run a moderate. It doesn't mean she hasn't learned and changed opinions but anyone attached to those groups generally isn't good.
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(07-01-2022, 01:16 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (06-30-2022, 11:11 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure why Gabbard is still a Democrat. She has shifted many of her positions to Center-Right and Right. She's still got a few that would be considered Center-Left; drug policy, health care, Green New Deal, but by in large, she seems like a Center-Right politician. She'd make a great Independent, but there doesn't seem to be a big money machine to help fuel an independent campaign for President. If she's serious, she'll have to make a choice soon.
She's WEF young leaders. She says the right things a lot but she needs a lot of research into her past. She could be bought and paid for in case the Dems need to run a moderate. It doesn't mean she hasn't learned and changed opinions but anyone attached to those groups generally isn't good.
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Good counsel. After reading about the WEF, that makes sense. Democrats are not going to win on their own platform and radical issues, so they've got to figure out a way to suck in moderates and then maybe even center right conservatives to a candidate that appeals to them, much like they did with Biden and the moderates. Then they can just continue to push a radical left agenda with their president acting as somewhat of a figurehead. Maybe a wolf in sheep's clothing here.
If that's the case then she's all in for the cause. She spends a lot of time on Fox.
(07-02-2022, 11:15 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Is justice really served by dragging a woman in her 80s through a legal process for something that happened 67 years ago?
1955 warrant in Emmett Till case found, family seeks arrest (news4jax.com)
I don't think she ever apologized. I doubt there's any statute dating to the 1950s, from MS or the Feds, that criminalizes anything she did back then, but if there is, she should be tried and the punishment should be a forced apology to the Till family. If there's not, she should be left alone.
(07-02-2022, 11:15 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Is justice really served by dragging a woman in her 80s through a legal process for something that happened 67 years ago?
1955 warrant in Emmett Till case found, family seeks arrest (news4jax.com)
How is she even guilty of something? She told her then husband and his half brother what happened. That's considered kidnapping? They may as well have charged her with murder while they were at it.
Maybe she told them to do something about it, who knows. Not enough information to have an informed opinion.
(07-03-2022, 02:36 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-02-2022, 11:15 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Is justice really served by dragging a woman in her 80s through a legal process for something that happened 67 years ago?
1955 warrant in Emmett Till case found, family seeks arrest (news4jax.com)
How is she even guilty of something? She told her then husband and his half brother what happened. That's considered kidnapping? They may as well have charged her with murder while they were at it.
Maybe she told them to do something about it, who knows. Not enough information to have an informed opinion.
Someone confirmed they had the right person and most likely it was a woman. So they thought it was her. Kidnapping laws can be somewhat vague or worded where you don't have to even plan to do harm or keep the kid. Taking a child for a walk that you are watching without asking for consent from the parents could be charged as kidnapping.
There is really no way to prove this crime. It's all hearsay or old evidence with no one left alive to really say one way or the other.
If the story is true, the teen should have known what he was doing was going to be a problem. It doesn't excuse the murderers but people need to stop overlooking their actions that caused it. Harassing a woman and making sexual motions and possibly touching her would be grounds to get you beat until you learned how to respect women at his age. Then you add in the racial elements and the teen was asking for trouble.
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I have no sympathy for any woman or man that willingly ruins another person's life.
(07-03-2022, 05:50 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-03-2022, 03:37 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Someone confirmed they had the right person and most likely it was a woman. So they thought it was her. Kidnapping laws can be somewhat vague or worded where you don't have to even plan to do harm or keep the kid. Taking a child for a walk that you are watching without asking for consent from the parents could be charged as kidnapping.
There is really no way to prove this crime. It's all hearsay or old evidence with no one left alive to really say one way or the other.
If the story is true, the teen should have known what he was doing was going to be a problem. It doesn't excuse the murderers but people need to stop overlooking their actions that caused it. Harassing a woman and making sexual motions and possibly touching her would be grounds to get you beat until you learned how to respect women at his age. Then you add in the racial elements and the teen was asking for trouble.
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Wow.
Just... wow.
How old are you?
This was the 50s in the south. The teen was for whatever reason visiting family there. Sure he was from Chicago but he should have known where he was going and how he should act. Back then he probably would have gotten a beating from who he was staying with if they had known what he did. He didn't deserve to be murdered but he had to have known something would have happened to him.
You may not know what life was like but that's the truth. Unless she was lying, his actions started the chain of events. You have to have some self awareness of the situation you are in.
It's similar to criminals running from cops, you are just asking to get shot. Your actions put your life at risk instead of just surrendering.
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Didn't she intentionally say he raped her? I can't remember the specifics, but I thought this was part of it.
(07-03-2022, 11:54 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Didn't she intentionally say he raped her? I can't remember the specifics, but I thought this was part of it.
From the article, the warrant claims she was the one in the truck that identified the teen. I don't know if she lied about what happened in the store or not. There wasn't anything said about a potential lie to her husband about what happened.
After the 2 murderers were acquitted it appears it was just dropped as they couldn't get a conviction.
*Obviously if she lied about what happened then the teen couldn't have stopped anything from happening. She could have been crazy, could have been flirting and someone saw so she tells husband a lie, etc. There just isn't anything in the article suggesting that.
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In the 50s and 60s it was acceptable for almost any adult to strike any child they caught misbehaving. That was true in MS and in Chicago. The adult would usually give kind of a warning hit to the kid, and then threaten the kid with "do you want me to get your dad?!" Usually the kid would comply and that would be the end of it, if not, they would find the kid's dad and *that* would be the end of it.
None of that is what happened to Emmitt Till. The witness statements mostly contradict, and even Till's friends may have said untrue things that they believed the whites wanted to hear. But this was a situation of racial terrorism, pure and simple. The goal was to scare blacks so they would remain in total social subservience to whites, or else leave the state. We can be sure Till did *something* that blacks weren't supposed to do in that time and place. He might have forgotten to say sir and ma'am. He may have tried to tell a joke. He may have forgotten to let a white customer cut in front of him in line. But we can also be sure that this wasn't harsh discipline gone awry. It was cold blooded murder with terroristic intent.
(07-04-2022, 09:48 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]In the 50s and 60s it was acceptable for almost any adult to strike any child they caught misbehaving. That was true in MS and in Chicago. The adult would usually give kind of a warning hit to the kid, and then threaten the kid with "do you want me to get your dad?!" Usually the kid would comply and that would be the end of it, if not, they would find the kid's dad and *that* would be the end of it.
None of that is what happened to Emmitt Till. The witness statements mostly contradict, and even Till's friends may have said untrue things that they believed the whites wanted to hear. But this was a situation of racial terrorism, pure and simple. The goal was to scare blacks so they would remain in total social subservience to whites, or else leave the state. We can be sure Till did *something* that blacks weren't supposed to do in that time and place. He might have forgotten to say sir and ma'am. He may have tried to tell a joke. He may have forgotten to let a white customer cut in front of him in line. But we can also be sure that this wasn't harsh discipline gone awry. It was cold blooded murder with terroristic intent.
I never excused the murderers. It's not fair but the teen had to have better awareness of where he was at. At this point, the evidence doesn't exist anymore, most everyone is dead, and only the statements that were taken then are left.
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(07-04-2022, 11:24 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/LeftismForU/status/1...-seraar%2F
What's worse, that she will still win or that we have a Somali independence day celebration in the USA?
If you love the country that you left because of violence, why are you celebrating it and why haven't you gone back.
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(07-04-2022, 01:11 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2022, 11:24 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/LeftismForU/status/1...-seraar%2F
Nice...
What would be even better is if her constituents as well as those of the rest of "the squad" felt and vote the same way.
There's a documentary out there that tells how her campaign vigorously cheated to get her to win. It appears she'll have to double down on her efforts next time.
There's no cheating in elections. It's unthinkable, and I'm appalled you would even suggest such a thing.