(05-13-2025, 10:53 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]OK We can now settle some stuff.
FIRST
The decision has been made. Trump can deport illegal aliens under the Alien Enemies Act. Read it live it love it....
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-u...nemies-act
NEXT for those of you that are uneducated in this matter. Read the link below.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-c...atars-gift
The Dem's were just jealous as Clinton only got a helicopter (that he kept) and Biden a fist bump when he went over there begging.
nuff said.
I don’t care how they explain it away, accepting a gift that extravagant displays all the hallmarks of an impropriety with a state which sponsors terrorism. Trump is undermining himself if he accepts it. It’s just that simple.
(05-13-2025, 09:12 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2025, 08:55 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]There is no rebellion or invasion or war.
Man, that's comparing firecrackers to nuclear bombs. Not worth our time.
Nothing like this gift of a jumbo jet has ever happened before. Honestly I think it would be fine, if our government kept the plane afterwards for the next President. Trump should not be allowed to keep such a gift for himself, obviously they wouldn't be offering if he wasn't President right now.
If I had to predict, there will be back channel discussions and the Qataris will withdraw the offer.
May want to investigate a bit more before posting. The disposition of the plane has already been established . The plane after being used by our government will either be kept by the government or be on display at the Trump Presidential library. It basically is a gift to the nation. I know they did not get your approval ... may want to give them a call....
The plane won't be displayed at the library. Trump will continue to use it as long as he lives, and whoever inherits control of the library will also continue to use it. It will be a personal gift, in effect, if it goes to the library.
We must not allow Trump or any other President to accept such a large personal gift. As a nation we should accept such a gift, but a President should not accept it.
Also Qatar has deliberately tried to be a diplomatic bridge between Saudi Arabia and Iran. They also host terrorist groups such as Taliban and Hamas openly. We should be more cautious with the way we do business with them.
(05-13-2025, 10:53 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]OK We can now settle some stuff.
FIRST
The decision has been made. Trump can deport illegal aliens under the Alien Enemies Act. Read it live it love it....
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-u...nemies-act
NEXT for those of you that are uneducated in this matter. Read the link below.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-c...atars-gift
The Dem's were just jealous as Clinton only got a helicopter (that he kept) and Biden a fist bump when he went over there begging.
nuff said.
You should really read articles before linking to them.
From the article.
The Boeing 747 offered to the United States by Qatar will be given to the Department of Defense, President Donald Trump said Tuesday, responding to questions about the legality of accepting a gift from a foreign power.
Qatar's royal family offered to donate a $400 million jumbo jet that could serve as Air Force One.
The White House has pushed back against criticism of Trump, saying any gift from a foreign power is always accepted in full compliance with all laws.
As much as you would like him to, he is not accepting any gift in violation of the law. Want a fist bump?
(05-14-2025, 07:41 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]From the article.
The Boeing 747 offered to the United States by Qatar will be given to the Department of Defense, President Donald Trump said Tuesday, responding to questions about the legality of accepting a gift from a foreign power.
Qatar's royal family offered to donate a $400 million jumbo jet that could serve as Air Force One.
The White House has pushed back against criticism of Trump, saying any gift from a foreign power is always accepted in full compliance with all laws.
As much as you would like him to, he is not accepting any gift in violation of the law. Want a fist bump?
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-ad...=121680511
in the article:
The plane will then be transferred to the Trump Presidential Library Foundation no later than Jan. 1, 2029, and any costs relating to its transfer will be paid for by the U.S. Air Force, the sources told ABC News.
(05-14-2025, 08:17 AM)TheSkipWillis Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2025, 07:41 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]From the article.
The Boeing 747 offered to the United States by Qatar will be given to the Department of Defense, President Donald Trump said Tuesday, responding to questions about the legality of accepting a gift from a foreign power.
Qatar's royal family offered to donate a $400 million jumbo jet that could serve as Air Force One.
The White House has pushed back against criticism of Trump, saying any gift from a foreign power is always accepted in full compliance with all laws.
As much as you would like him to, he is not accepting any gift in violation of the law. Want a fist bump?
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-ad...=121680511
in the article:
The plane will then be transferred to the Trump Presidential Library Foundation no later than Jan. 1, 2029, and any costs relating to its transfer will be paid for by the U.S. Air Force, the sources told ABC News.
Yea, this wasn't a surprise. They knew the Dem's would scream bloody murder, just like they do on anything and everything Trump. This has been being studied for a bit to ensure the law is followed. It is actually pretty comical to see the reactions. That is the Dem's strong suit. Talk about things, point out stuff needs to get done but offer no solutions or accomplish stuff.
Quite the week our president had huh?
(05-14-2025, 08:33 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2025, 08:17 AM)TheSkipWillis Wrote: [ -> ]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-ad...=121680511
in the article:
The plane will then be transferred to the Trump Presidential Library Foundation no later than Jan. 1, 2029, and any costs relating to its transfer will be paid for by the U.S. Air Force, the sources told ABC News.
Yea, this wasn't a surprise. They knew the Dem's would scream bloody murder, just like they do on anything and everything Trump. This has been being studied for a bit to ensure the law is followed. It is actually pretty comical to see the reactions. That is the Dem's strong suit. Talk about things, point out stuff needs to get done, [BLEEP] and moan about Trump in spite of the fact that they themselves did the exact same things continuously in the recent and not so recent past, but offer no solutions or accomplish stuff because they want to resume doing it when they get back in power.
Quite the week our president had huh?
Added for context and clarity.
(05-14-2025, 05:54 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Sen. Fetterman’s fitness for office and the media flip: Bias Breakdown
The article describes a change in media coverage of Fetterman: While right-leaning outlets questioned his cognitive abilities and fitness for office following his 2022 stroke and treatment for depression, left-leaning sources generally defended him at that time. Now, criticism has become more pronounced in left-leaning media outlets, while right-leaning outlets now often defend Fetterman and suggest recent scrutiny is politically motivated, particularly as his policy positions have shifted.
I completely understand being concerned about his abilities after having a stroke. Anyone with common sense should have been concerned regardless of political leaning.
The Democrats and left wing media are not concerned about him they're mad he's had a change in policy decisions that don't align with theirs. Make no mistake though, if he starts swinging more to the left again the Republicans and right wing media will flame him just the same.
It's
all politically motivated.
Countries give gifts to presidents all the time. Bill Clinton has a 1999 Porsche in his garage from the President of Unified Germany
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(05-14-2025, 08:24 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Countries give gifts to presidents all the time. Bill Clinton has a 1999 Porsche in his garage from the President of Unified Germany
OK let's summarize what we know. There could be more....
Clinton got a Helicopter from the Saudis and a Porsche from Germany both of which he kept and uses to this day
Obama 22.9 million from Venezuela
Hillary gets 500k in jewelry from the Saudis. (She kept)
Biden got a fist bump from the Saudis while begging for them to increase production which they did not do.
Trump gets a 747 for use as Air Force One because Boeing is 5 years behind finishing that project. It is to be given to the Air force/DOD not him. The Democrats attack and we have a poster here with an issue, how dishonest can you get?
respect -1
(05-14-2025, 08:41 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2025, 08:24 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Countries give gifts to presidents all the time. Bill Clinton has a 1999 Porsche in his garage from the President of Unified Germany
OK let's summarize what we know. There could be more....
Clinton got a Helicopter from the Saudis and a Porsche from Germany both of which he kept and uses to this day
Obama 22.9 million from Venezuela
Hillary gets 500k in jewelry from the Saudis. (She kept)
Biden got a fist bump from the Saudis while begging for them to increase production which they did not do.
Trump gets a 747 for use as Air Force One because Boeing is 5 years behind finishing that project. It is to be given to the Air force/DOD not him. The Democrats attack and we have a poster here with an issue, how dishonest can you get?
respect -1
If that were true, it would be less of a problem.
We would still have the problem of, is the plane bugged somehow?
And the third problem is, if all it takes is a used 747-8 to convert into AF1, why don't we just buy one from UPS or Atlas Air and move on?
(05-14-2025, 09:32 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2025, 08:41 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]OK let's summarize what we know. There could be more....
Clinton got a Helicopter from the Saudis and a Porsche from Germany both of which he kept and uses to this day
Obama 22.9 million from Venezuela
Hillary gets 500k in jewelry from the Saudis. (She kept)
Biden got a fist bump from the Saudis while begging for them to increase production which they did not do.
Trump gets a 747 for use as Air Force One because Boeing is 5 years behind finishing that project. It is to be given to the Air force/DOD not him. The Democrats attack and we have a poster here with an issue, how dishonest can you get?
respect -1
If that were true, it would be less of a problem.
We would still have the problem of, is the plane bugged somehow?
And the third problem is, if all it takes is a used 747-8 to convert into AF1, why don't we just buy one from UPS or Atlas Air and move on?
You are demonstrating just how much of an idiot you can be day by day, post by post. If you believe that the Secret Service and the Air Force wont go over that plane with a fine tooth comb before it's put in service......well...... you're just lowering the threshold to be declared a total imbecile............
(05-14-2025, 10:19 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2025, 09:32 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]If that were true, it would be less of a problem. What makes you think it is not true? Link please or some verification of your opinion?...
We would still have the problem of, is the plane bugged somehow?
And the third problem is, if all it takes is a used 747-8 to convert into AF1, why don't we just buy one from UPS or Atlas Air and move on?
Every article I've read said says DoD will give the airplane to the Trump library when Trump leaves office.
(05-15-2025, 07:13 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Every article I've read said says DoD will give the airplane to the Trump library when Trump leaves office.
Yep,yep,yep. I have said that too. For a display...lol Everything that is being done is according to US law. Heck there would be a lawsuit if not by now. The Regan library has the AF-one he used. I believe the Marine-one that was used by a president is in a library too.
You know what it would cost for him to actually use this plane? Besides he has his own private one that is better than AF one. Now Clinton uses his helicopter regularly, Hillary has the 500k of jewelry. Obama still has the 22+million for his library. tell you what first go get those guys to donate them back to the US then I'll commiserate with your angst. Until then all you are doing is proving Democrats/liberals have over the years turned into a one way road. This reduces the value of what you think.
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